So here is the scenario.

Your exploring around Solstheim. You killed the first dragon in Skyrim but your not going to do the MQ any time soon. Then there is the Dragon Born DLC... it hasn't triggered because you have not spoken to the Grey Beards.

Anyway from previous playing experience you know that there is a shout you can learn that lets you break those stone shrines Miraak has in Solstheim. Here is the dilemma.

I'm not playing a dragonborn character. I don't want to. But I'd like to actually be able to SLEEP IN Solstheim! Who's bright idea was it that any character that went there would wake up at some random shrine? My dunmer just wants a good nights sleep in her new manor!

So... what could possibly be the harm of her going to that word wall. learning the shout and then using it on the shrines? Will they even break? Will this allow her to get a good night's sleep? Will it break the quest later? Who cares I don't plan on her doing it anyway.

Thing is since she is not a dragonborn and thanks to Live Another Life she started out in Windhelm and returned to Raven Rock and has remained there. I could give her a dragon soul through the console. She's already learned the word. I'm just trying to gather a list of whats the worse that could happen. Its not like the word wall was locked away. There wasn't even a dragon there. Just draugr. There are no dragons in her game, period. But she would really like to be able to sleep.

Has anyone else done this? learned the shout and used it on the shrines before being part of the Dragon Born MQ?

I didn't even know that you could start the quest line on Solstheim without becoming dragonborn.

Every time I went to Solstheim (Without becoming dragonborn) no dragons ever showed up.

However, Are there any mods that could help with your Dunmers sleep problems? That way you could avoid becoming DB.

well thing is you can learn shouts without being dragonborn. So she already learned the word she would have been sent to learn in a quest she will never do. Since the MQ has not triggered for Skyrim, neither has the Dragonborn MQ. So no miraak. I have encountered cultists at his shrines and they attack but don't call you the false dragonborn.

I just wonder if

1. can the shrines can be broken if not during the quest to break them?

2. would the skaal people return home and the town appear normal? which would be cool to RP with

3. would doing this auto trigger the Dragonborn MQ up to that point? Reason I ask this is if say you got out of Helgen and went to the thalmor embassy, did you know getting over the wall and console commanding the front door to be unlocked will automatically trigger diplomatic immunity? I found that out personally when I tried to break in and steal the strange gem which at the time was in Elenwen's room before a patch came out to move it.

4. If it did trigger the quest, how many other quests including possible Skyrim MQ ones would it auto complete?

5. Or... just grow a pair and find out for myself LOL

Ohh I did this. What you do is console command the quest all the way until the Skaal ask you to use the shout on the stones. Then console command the shout and do that quest.

I'm wondering if I can just skip all that. Just give myself a dragon soul with the console, spend it on the word and try.

If I complete all the quests up to that point it just means now I would be dragonborn, chased around by cultists and dragons, with miraak stealing souls and I don't want that.

Hmm, not sure if it will work. You could try, I did all the console command quest so my Orc could live in a lively Skaal village.

And not really, since you are only console commanding the quest from Dragonborn. Just another Out of Character thing you have to do in order to be able to play In Character, easily ignored.

Yeah, that. Grow a pair and find out. This is the sort of thing that save files were made for! Do it. I dare you.

Yes mum, I'll get right on it. After I finish my beer.

make sure to tell us how it turned out

Well test results are in. to early for a full diagnosis of possible symptoms but, promising. Skaal returned home and the shaman was in his house. I didn't check for whats her name, the follower you can get from the village. I went and destroyed all 5 of the stone shrines. Setting everyone free and killing all the lurkers that dropped some pretty decent loot. Next I had my character sleep for 12 hours and no waking up hammering on a wall, standing in her small clothes. And no quest log updates. I did walk past people in the skaal village who say I am a true friend of the skaal. I have yet to test if npcs like Neloth now have quest dialog when he did not earlier.