It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to see so many of my comrades-in-arms on these forums or maybe it's that kitten I just ate. :3

What if instead of trying to exterminate them, first try to reverse the Ghoulification process? There's that doctor in Underworld who's already trying that - it'd make more sense to work with them first before holocaust exterminating. I should actually start working on that.. The GECK is pretty much the only hope for the Ghouls right now. :l

becouse ghoul children make for harder targets from a mile out. but I would always leave one alive...
so it will remember the fear of being hunted like an animal...

btw that zombie doctor uses humans for experiments.. he already admitted that.

Yes, there is a speck of hope if we provide Doctor Barrows with the appropriate technology and a science team to aid him.

I never really expressed a huge amount of interest in the extermination of ghouls, but I still do believe they're a problem which must be dealt with. Though, that doesn't mean we need to slaughter them like lambs -- there are other alternatives that are, I feel, much more humane.

...
Jaysus Chroist, and here I thought Frank Horrigan was unstable. :c

Also, such experiments are likely necessary. I doubt he kills them or causes any sort of severe lasting harm.
Sacrifices must be made, if a viable solution is to be found.

And what if a solution is not found? I guess we're still trying to find the piece to that puzzle.

And R.I.P, Frank.

you support the Enclave? but not nessasarily their vision on the irratication of mutants (ghouls included).
you Sir are a traitor to your union, and to your goverment. pick a side.. ot face the wrath of the Enclave!

The Brotherhood Outcasts, the only true representatives of the Brotherhood on the East Coast!

Protector Casdin shall lead us to dominance! Time shall vindicate us when Lyons faces a firing squad!

We'll burn that bridge when we come to it, my friend.
Hey, I'm no scientist. I just stick posters up and deploy the Verti-assaults.

Ah, Frank. You'll be missed, you giant lumbering maniac, you. ;3;

You have no idea. But let me make one thing clear: I am the Enclave.

And of course I share the common goal of irradicating mutants. But ghouls can be contained. I most certainly will not let them plague daily life, but simply exterminating them would be a waste... a waste of valuable man power. Labour work, anyone? It's not pretty, but neither are ghouls.

NONSENCE! anything carring the FEV is a target! slated for irratication! I am a special operations (spec-op) hired by President Eden
himself to do just that. now this can happen 2 ways... pay me to keep my mouth shut.. or face MY wrath. and I gotta tell yah.... I'm
leaning towards my second choise. don't make me hunt you like I hunt those pathetic zombies!

Heh, it makes me fairly disgusted that so many people have fun mock-praising a genocidal ultra-totalitarian pseudo-government that happily slaughters people out of some confused ideal based on racial purity and nationalism. I know, people are taking the piss, but I do have family members who were involved in WW2. Anyways, skipping the personal anecdotes and desire to make OTT flames, let's talk FO3 politics, philosophy, morality, and whatnot.

The way I see it, the only good Enclave member is a stone cold dead Enclave member. Doesn't matter who they are, where they are, or what they're claiming to do, because they deserve death merely by association with the Enclave. Anyone helping the Enclave is at best a collaborator and thus deserves to die. Horribly. Doesn't matter why, doesn't matter that his kids will be killed if he refuses, or that he was brainwashed, or that he really doesn't want to do what he's doing. The Enclave and all associated with them are scum and the more they all suffer before expiring, the better.

Sounds harsh? Well, it's the only way to fight that kind of human garbage. If they offer no compassion then they shouldn't expect any. Fighting fire with fire tends to leave the whole damn world burnt to a crisp, but seeing as the Enclave scum already saw to that by nuking everything to hell, there's really no convincing reason to hold back in the slightest. That being said, I'm not entirely heartless. I wouldn't feed Enclave infants to feral ghouls but advlts and mentally polluted teens are fair game. Anything goes. Disassociate or die painfully, knowing that your last act in this universe was to bring a smile to the face of a very angry anti-totalitarian, who pisses on everything the Enclave stands for.


They're here to clean up the mess they created themselves, by butchering what few people they didn't manage to kill during the nuclear holocaust? Riiight. And serving "your country"? A country consists of the people inhabiting it. The leaders of the old US of A tried to butcher the vast majority of their fellow Americans. Claiming any governmental privilege, rank, or authority is beyond ridiculous. Those rotten bastards can burn for all I care. :flamethrower:

:-)

Don't be scared, son. You'll soon learn the error in your ways.

I respect your opinion, and I understand Eden was a great man, with even greater goals, but his methods were far too extreme, which is why I pledge my allegiance to Autumn... or at least his idealogies.

In any case, it is clear that we do not see eye to eye, so I suggest we give each other a wide birth -- I refuse to let the tension rise above its current level... conflicts will only harm our organisation.

You talk big but you're still going to die, just like all the rest of your scummy brethren. The world will know freedom tyrannical governments once again. Though in all fairness, I just might not kill you.

Leaving you unarmed, naked, and with a few debilitating wounds in the close proximity of a few ghouls would be, well, quite less satisfying but at least poetically just, wouldn't it?

...Right, I knew there was a reason I started avoiding these forums: The pure amount of vitriol spewed out at anyone who dares to root for the antagonists.
I'm sick and tired of dredging up all the old arguments; it's like beating your head against a brick wall. Doesn't matter whose side you're viewing the argument from.

Also, I find it hilarious that you're offsetting a rant about 'genocidals' with demands to kill us them all.
Irony, thy name is Bethesda Forums.

WOW, a lot of people like the Enclave. Thats who I chose too.

Didn't expect that considering how Beth made them look soo evil.

Hmm. The Brotherhood brainwashed you well.

I would only pick Reilly's Rangers because everyone else seem to be horribly represented of what they are ingame.

haha you misguided mass... Autumn wants power he's a tool. to be used and thrown away. Eden hires mercs like myself to counter-act
power hungry weasels like Autumn. to get the job done. the effective way. you see.. my mind is clouded by pollitics. just caps.. and
the greater good. mutants are a desease in this world, and for the caps.. I'm the cure. you will drop to my feet one day and beg for
forgivness... but I will not listen. you had a chance to make your world a better world, an enclave world. free of zombies and mutants
who will kill your child in front of your eyes. I remeber Roy.. a ghoul.. who lied to me and slaughterd hundreds of humans.. this is when
I was youger/// more nieve. I slaughter them for payback, for lies, and for a better HUMAN world. plus the caps are good LOL!

You speak of the Enclave like it's some band of Raiders. The Enclave is the largest military left on the surface of the earth, more powerful than you could imagine. The Enclave wouldn't ever need you. Mercenaries aren't exactly capable of those kinds of things.

thats funny cause your boss is cleaning out his bank account for my services.. CASH only, cause his last check
bounced higher then a superball!
also the last time I checked, I walked right by a group of Enclave Soldiers... they respected my authority (gotta
love mods).

i also agree with chriso and am a proud enclave supporter we believe in autums enclave rebuilding a new america not slaughter and bigotry like the eden administration

though gouls are a plauge they are mot F.E.V mutants they just got a HUGE dose of radiation and didnt die therefore are not mutants persay just humans past the point of being human due to radiation caused mutations

Who do you think i support?!

OBVIOUSLY MY FACTION.
My elite outcasts will scour the wastes for tech with me to lead them and
we shll vanquish those who oppose us! Especial lyons and his ragtam team
of morons.

I'm with the swamp folk in Point Lookout


Because we like to dance :woot: