Since its 200 years later There can be more than one Champion of Cyrodill
Not only the one from the Oblivion Crisis

Could this be true ?

Yes, it IS true.

Noooope.

Its a title for a Chivalric order its like saying there could only be one Knight Grand-Cross of the Order of the Bath in the UK

I would chime in here but most of my points were already said-
- The player becoming the madgod was probably temporary
- In 200 years, there has probably been a new CoC after the Oblivion crisis
- WWI doesn't come up in normal conversation- even if it did, that was 90 years ago, not 200. Try the Napoleonic Wars? Nobody in India talks about them on a Daily Basis (SKYRIM IS A DIFFERENT REGION THAN CYRODIIL ANYWAYS)

:3

The Oblivion crisis is better compared to the fall of the roman empire, or the mongol invasion, so yes I would expect to run across books about it and maybe hear people reference it still 200 yrs later, most the world can tell you when the Americas broke free of Britain yes ?

I'm also routing for the Deadric Shrine of Sheogorath to be the Hero of Oblivion that gives you the quest.

I am pretty sure in the game, you are like the 6th or 7th Champion of Cyrodill already, there could be more or even champions present in Skyrim, tho unlikely.



I'd go with that too, after all the previous Sheogorath even said "everything changes, even Deadric Princes, Especially Deadric Princes", if the Champion of Cyrodill managed to bind themselves to the Shivering Isles to truly become it's new Avatar... then their appearance would have no doubt changed by now and perhaps even "gender" (what isn't really applicable to Deadric Princes anyway), tho I doubt it'll look the same as the old Sheogorath, that said, statues to the old Sheogorath still worked for the new one, so it could be that nobody knows what Sheogorath looks like now. Alternatively if the Champion of Cyrodill could not bind him/herself to the Shivering Isles OR find immortality that the position of Sheogorath is passed down via staff in some method over the various generations. Of course if the Champion did get immortality but unable to bind themselves to the shivering isles... that'd be a more interesting position to try and figure out.

I hope you all know this line, and lines like it, are pretty much Beth bending the 4th wall
Think of the Elder Scrolls as the game itself, and you, the scribe, the player outside the game making your character's choices.

There's a reason why the Elder Scrolls always play different events, leading to the same end, depending on the reader, it's because it's actually more like this:
The Elder Scrolls (the game) speak of an event (the MQ), and the hero (your character), whose actions differ depending on the reader (the player), fulfill the prophecy told by the scrolls (the end of the MQ).


Anyway, other than one wishing to continue their CoC, who was the Nerevarine previously, who was also the Eternal Champion and Septim's Agent, the CoC has been effectively written off by Beth with the SI expansion. All we'll get, at best, are vague rumors and such, like with the Nerevarine. Septim's Agent may have been the Blade that was stepped on by the Numidium, and the Eternal Champion's identity is effectively unknown, other than he saved the emperor Uriel from his battlemage, Jagar Tharn.

A book called "Speculations on the Unknown Hero"--a history of nameless heroes who have saved Tamriel in times of crisis would be fun.

You guys know the CoC during the OB Crisis will probably only be referred to as the "CoC," and anything written about him will more than likely only cover the main events in the MQ.

Actually, I revert my previous 'nooooope'. I think that statement meant you would be whome it is written about. So I guess, if they put it in the game, there would be an elder scroll entailing your deeds in Oblivion and all that.

This thread made me sad because I don't know what an Esbern is.

Or a 'CoC'.

CoC = Champion of Cyrodiil, the player of Oblivion.

Esbern is a dude who helps you defeat dragons in Skyrim.

I bet once the dragons start attacking in force, there will be people talking that their hasn't been something this horrible and devistating happen since the Oblivion gates. It could be an every day discution because something very simmilar is happening. A spirit is invading with his little minions. WWI isn't talked about daily because there isn't another WW going on, thank goodness. If one broke out, people would say how they couldn't believe how another one started, and older peopl would talk how they can't believe they have survived to see two WW's.

Yes, theres a reference. Did you watch the trailer?

Don't you mean three world wars? Though, after only 60 years I hear references about world war two just about daily, sometimes multiple times a day.

And the crises in Syrim would make the Oblivion crisis a very relevant topic of discussion.

Actually I can't recall the last time I had a casual conversation with someone about WWI. :happy:

While that may or may not be a good thing, if magical gates which lead to hell opened up 200 years ago only to be closed by a strange person whom no one could really find afterwards, people would probably bring the topic up if magic dragons started showing up out of no where.

bliviongate:

:rofl:

This.

I think it's a metaphor. When it comes to the game, the Elder Scrolls are symbols of Fate. They spell out prophecy (though in very obscure ways) which determine the fate of certain individuals. I don't think the player would literally be its scribe, but it makes sense from a metaphorical point of view. Your prophecy is done, and what you're left with is an uncertain future where anything could happen. Essentially, you are the scribe of an elder scroll if you read it as being "fate is in your hands", and what happens next is up to you. You are not bound by an Elder Scroll anymore, so you can feel free to do whatever the hell you want. And through those actions, one can also draw the conclusion that a new Elder Scroll will be written based on what you do, which makes you a "scribe" in a different sense.

I'd imagine maybe a reference or two in a book about Martin Septim. Talking about a prisoner who became a war hero but vanishes from the course of history ( Either went to the Shivering Isles and became the madgod or just outright retired from fighting to live in luxury from the riches amassed from his/her quest ) who aided the last Dragonborn Emperor. Like it or not Martin Septim is the hero of Cyrodiil in the eyes of the people, you however where an arm of his in Oblivion. It's sad your character fades into such obscurity despite being the one who defeated the Mythic Dawn and saved Cyrodiil but your not a crown prince so your not entitled to being immortalized. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if in Cyrodiil Martin Septim along with the Religion was now "The Ten" with them revering Martin as a Divine.

*cough* "from the time after oblivion opened" *cough* There's a reference. And as to the whole "Its old news scenario" something of that scale, and that devastating, will be conversed about for many, many years. No one will forget the Daedra and Mehrunes. Do any of you not know who Hitler and the nazi's were?

There are lots of pointless Morrowind easter eggs in Oblivion that has little to none interest(some exceptions, though).

What I'd like to see is quests influenced by the major events from Oblivion, not just easter eggs and small references.