Wow! That is crazy. I liked the black and blue dark color scheme...I don't know about the font, though. This should be interesting. Time to explore... ^_____^


Edit: I like the new section in the top-right corner. The new format makes for easy-reading too, but I'll have to get used to the brightness again...

Edit: Okay...not sure about the easy-reading yet...

what do you mean black and blue color scheme? mines the regular grey still?

He's talking about the Forums, looks like they got a facelift.

EDIT: And they're under attack, so I'd stay clear for now...

ahh the forums, my bad, i dont go there ever

It had blue in it. I pay a lot of attention to blue... Anyway, it was a very dark them, black or off-black, it was close enough. The point is that I liked it, and this is quite a switch. I think the font could be a little darker or something. My eyes seem to want more to grab onto...

What was the site we used before tesnexus anyways? I remember there being a site just like it before that, but then some stuff went down between some people and the site was killed. And some people from the old site moved on to create tesnexus.

I've only used TESNexus. I did not start using mods until '07.


Edit: Do you mean TESSource?

Yes thats it! TESSource. I was just curious beause I couldn't remember the name.

In the Uploaded Files forum, there are still official upload threads that still have links to the no longer existent site. It seems that they could have a script to redirect or something since the IDs are the same, but those links are probably not used much.

Yeah. I haven't been on the Nexus forums very much to see. But I do remember when they switched sites that all of the uploads were pictureless. I just remember how annoyed I was at all the modders who never returned to re-up photos

You need to read up on your Nexus history. TESSource is more or less what the place used to be called a few years back

Changing domains is a major pain in the rear too. With a site as big as Nexus, finding all the old links is likely impossible.

I believe TESNexus is still run by the same person who ran TESSource (Dark0ne), he just had a partner before (I believe it was just a financial partner, and he still ran the site himself) and after they parted he converted it to TESNexus to run it (and own it) himself.

Edit: Check the "Site History" page if you're interested it explains it all better there.

double-yes...wait, no, triple-yes...

You know, along those lines, they really need something to help stay current. For example, when a new mod goes up, often there will be a forum link back to here for questions about the mod, troubleshooting, etc. But when that thread reaches 200 posts... yep, you guessed it... the link is no longer current. I don't even bother using those links anymore because they are almost always dead. The problem is Nexus has no way of knowing what the new thread's ID is, and from the looks of it, there's probably not a very efficient way to discover that programatically. In other words, it needs human intervention as it is.

Arranging information into a form that is discoverable is something I do on a daily basis, so naturally I would like to see that sort of thing here as well.

The official Nexus forum threads last much longer than 200 posts. I have no clue what the limit is or if there is a limit at all, in fact...

I know they do, these don't, and often this is where the active discussion is, not the Nexus forums. It's the links to this forum I am referring to.

I was referring to the dead TESSource links on the Nexus forums.

If TES Nexus failed, it would not be the first major mod hosting site to do so.

Does anyone here remember Euro RPG? Probably not. Back in the day, it was by far the largest source for Morrowind mods, though probably not as dominant as the Nexus is now. Euro RPG eventually folded - server costs, lack of donations, run by volunteer admins whose real lives were preventing effective administration, whatever; I don't remember the exact reasons. Point is, after Euro RPG closed, there were literally thousands of mods that could no longer be found anywhere on the Internet.

TES Nexus is even bigger than Euro RPG was. If it goes down in a permanent fashion, then there will be many times as many mods that we'll never see again. Especially older mods - by authors who have left the community - there will be no way to get them. By default, a mod cannot be uploaded by anyone other than the original author, unless the original author gives express permission to do so. Many mods back in the days of Euro RPG gave no such notice - and when Euro RPG went down, the authors could not be contacted. Even when people who had the mods were found, they could not upload them. The same is true at Nexus: how many mods there have no mirrors, and give no permission to re-upload in the event of the Nexus going down? At a guess... most of them.

This is a serious problem, but it's been said since Day 1 of Oblivion modding (and earlier on the Morrowind mod forums), and it hasn't changed. It's not going to change. Because who in the community has been around long enough to remember how serious the issue is? I mean, not in terms of "Oh yeah, that'd be bad", but having actually experienced it? Not many, especially here. The Morrowind forums probably remember better, since Euro RPG actually hosted Morrowind mods, and a lot of veterans of that, from what I understand, are still involved in Morrowind modding. But in Oblivion modding, how many remember? I only barely count, seeing as I'm not the most active on these forums and I stick to my favored threads.

Every modder should upload mods to more than one site. Every modder should include details on how they want their mod treated, including in the event of a site going down. But most don't, and never will. Not a lot to be done about it.

Woah, way to upgrade the serious level. That was depressing... I've only been using mods since a few years. The title is in reference to the seemingly complete breakage of code I saw as I refreshed my browser during the layout transition. You're laying out "The Day After Tomorrow" for the Nexus...


Edit: I will not be deleting mods after I stop using them... I'll at least try to remember not to. I did not know what I was going to do with that huge 1TB external HDD I have. I really do not know what people do with multiple TB drives and multiple of the 1TB or multiple TB drives. I have not filled up my 250GB drives, either of them...

Edit: typo

Well, to be fair, I had a really hard time understanding what the hell you were talking about. Your OP is rather unclear, IMO.

Originally I was just going to post a link to http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/, but you seemed to be discussing the possibility of it being down permanently.


Is Buddha still around? Used to be that he kept a copy of damn near every mod even uploaded, to Nexus as well as other sites. Might be helpful - but only if authors allow him to upload the mod to a new site.

Yes. I just re-read the subtitle, and it is not punctuated correctly, very open to interpretation... The title is really subjective anyway. Maybe I should've taken the presence of that other depressing thread into consideration before I titled this one, haha.


Hmmm... I think I've already lost a few mods permanently after clearing out all of my Exnem EyeCandy-related mods when I switched to using Robert's body. I also deleted a number of mods I was not using as I made the transition from OMODs to BAIN packages. I am more upset about all of the hours of OMOD scripts I threw away than anything else there, though...compulsive cleaning...

Oh aye, I remember Euro RPG, TES Mods, Morrowind files, etc.. It's the impetus for making TESNexus as physically and financially sound as possible. It's why the files are all backed up on 4 different servers on 2 continents on RAID-10 servers. And then there's my secret backup weapon: Buddah!

The forum change is only temporary (check the site news) while I try to prevent some pesky Ukranian's from injecting nasty malware/viruses in to the forum code. Just the "normal" matter of off-the-self, open-source code being exploited by people who want to ruin it for everyone else. The Nexus sites themselves are untouched.

Heh, that's right, I'd forgotten that TES Source started back in Morrowind. It's always been an Oblivion site for me (but I honestly can't remember the name of my favored Morrowind site... though I'm pretty sure it was entirely transferred to you shortly before Oblivion?), but yeah. Hehe, I'm glad I'm not the only veteran here. Those back-ups are impressive!

And Buddah is still around? Great news! I hadn't seen him post much (but then, hey, I don't go to the Nexus forums), so I wasn't sure. He's a great, great man.


Sigh, stupid script kiddies. Glad you've got it under control.

I already do upload to more than one site. Nexus is the primary, TESA is the secondary. Some stuff is also on PES. And I also keep copies on my personal blog site. So long as I have an internet connection my blog site will exist and therefore none of my stuff will go missing.

What I don't want happening is uncontrolled redistribution to other sites as tends to happen with far too many things. That's why I include legal notice that my permission is required to redistribute. I want to know where my stuff is and I actively pursue removal if I find it somewhere I didn't put it myself.

The only thing I haven't really given any thought to is what happens if I vanish? Perhaps I should address this because I'd not want my stuff to just vanish with me. Something to think about.

The Morrowind years seem to me to have been so long ago (and lets face it, they were!), but I still look back on them with great nostalgia.

I don't remember getting any site databases from other sites, just the regular transition to Morrowind Chronicles -> Morrowind Source -> TESSource -> TESNexus for me. I always tried to learn the lessons from some of the mistakes made by other sites, or adapt my own to the strengths of others.

I remember Morrowind Files used phpNuke with a cloudy blue and white skin, and IIRC Bethesda either helped fund the site or provided the server for the site to run on. A few months later the admins completely vanished which probably left a bitter taste in Bethesda's mouth who'd really gone out on a limb to help the modding community as it continued to grow in the early days. I remember Morrowind Summit and Dalin and their skin with the Khajiit and Euro RPG with its dark skin. I don't think I used Euro RPG much though, sticking with Morrowind Files and Morrowind Summit.

"Back in the day".