Where are the AK-47s!?

Post » Thu May 27, 2010 8:39 pm

Its called the chinese assualt rifle..and its not plastic its metal... :facepalm:


It is plastic, hence why it has a low weight compared to the various other guns.
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Jon O
 
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 2:33 pm

It weighs 7lb's right? Certainly looks like its made of metal to me..
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 8:38 pm

It is plastic, hence why it has a low weight compared to the various other guns.

It might be made of lighter alloys, like carbon fiber parts maybe?
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 9:15 am

There was the AK-112 in Fallout and Fallout 2, there was an AK-47 in Tactics, along with a large amount of other real world weapons, Fallout 3 had the Type-87 Chinese Assault Rifle, and New Vegas has an M4-style Assault Carbine (I wish they had given the technical names of the guns like they did in all the other games)
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 9:01 am

I know both of the pawn shops in my city of 25,000 to 30,000 sell AKs and all assortment of guns. None of them are fully automatic but they sell kits so people can do that themselves.

The AK-47 was originally made in 1947 by Kalisnikov hence the name AK-47 so it's not far fetched to think that the game would have a variant of them.


No, no they don't. That would be the fastest way to get charged with multiple felony charges. Also, conversion isn't done with a kit, but I'm not going to get into that for obvious reasons.

To own a fully automatic weapon in the US, you have to have a special permit, which requires a clean background check. It also requires a lot of money, fully automatic weapons tend to start out at $10k and go up from there.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 11:36 pm

Straying slightly from topic; AK-47 would be a good gun for Honest Hearts.

M1911 + AK-47 = CRISPY MUMMY KILLING ANIMAL.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 3:00 pm

It might be made of lighter alloys, like carbon fiber parts maybe?


possible, but theres many variants of plastic, some even more stronger then metal it-self and more heavy. but of course, i will go with it being made from plastic, unless a fallout 3 developer says other-wise.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 8:08 pm

In all honesty the communist i mean chinese assault rifle rifle was a carbon copy of the Ak47 tbh but it's quite silly why there isn't atleast a stray one in new vegas .
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 5:43 pm

possible, but theres many variants of plastic, some even more stronger then metal it-self and more heavy. but of course, i will go with it being made from plastic, unless a fallout 3 developer says other-wise.


I go with it being made of petrified turds, until a fallout 3 developer says other-wise.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 11:20 am

I go with it being made of petrified turds, until a fallout 3 developer says other-wise.

Well i always thought it was crap :wink: .
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 12:59 pm

Are you SAYING, FALLOUT 1 or 2 is canon? Dear god, you must be new to fallout, The AK-112 as you said is based on AK-47, and you argue that the game is not canon, when infact, a clear fact. it is.


You misunderstood his spost he SAID the AK-47 has NEVER actually appeard in a canon fallout game. Which it hasn't the only one containing an AK-47 was tactics which even the creator admited wasn't canon and applogized for how badly he broke from the series. The AK-112 an the Chinese Assault rifle are simply based of the design but not the same weapon.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 9:41 am

Tactics is NOT non-canon, Bethesda has made it clear the the main events of Tactics are indeed canon, there was a Warrior, there was a MWBoS, and there was a Calculator, which means there was a Vault 0.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 1:23 pm

The AK-47 has been named a Chinese assault rifle and in Fallout 3 and new vegas can be found in many places, such as the Megaton armory and The Tops Casino. HOWEVER! IN Fallout 3, at LittleLampLight Caverns, you may find a certain varient of the Chinese assault rifle, called the AK-470. It is slightly incresed damage and accuracy but the skin of the Chinese Assault Rifle and the AK-470 stays the same.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 11:02 am

The AK-47 has been named a Chinese assault rifle and in Fallout 3 and new vegas can be found in many places, such as the Megaton armory and The Tops Casino. HOWEVER! IN Fallout 3, at LittleLampLight Caverns, you may find a certain varient of the Chinese assault rifle, called the AK-470. It is slightly incresed damage and accuracy but the skin of the Chinese Assault Rifle and the AK-470 stays the same.

None of this is true.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 2:39 pm

The AK-47 has been named a Chinese assault rifle and in Fallout 3 and new vegas can be found in many places, such as the Megaton armory and The Tops Casino. HOWEVER! IN Fallout 3, at LittleLampLight Caverns, you may find a certain varient of the Chinese assault rifle, called the AK-470. It is slightly incresed damage and accuracy but the skin of the Chinese Assault Rifle and the AK-470 stays the same.

WTF are you talking about!!
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 11:13 am

The AK-47 has been named a Chinese assault rifle and in Fallout 3 and new vegas can be found in many places, such as the Megaton armory and The Tops Casino. HOWEVER! IN Fallout 3, at LittleLampLight Caverns, you may find a certain varient of the Chinese assault rifle, called the AK-470. It is slightly incresed damage and accuracy but the skin of the Chinese Assault Rifle and the AK-470 stays the same.

Another Jet addict :whistling: .
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 12:41 pm

The AK-47 has been named a Chinese assault rifle and in Fallout 3 and new vegas can be found in many places, such as the Megaton armory and The Tops Casino. HOWEVER! IN Fallout 3, at LittleLampLight Caverns, you may find a certain varient of the Chinese assault rifle, called the AK-470. It is slightly incresed damage and accuracy but the skin of the Chinese Assault Rifle and the AK-470 stays the same.


Lol I'll Have some of what ever hes smoking!
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 10:43 pm

Another Jet addict :whistling: .

Lol. We need a addiction removal program.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 7:57 pm

Haha, casual racism is always funny.....Regardless. There has never been an AK-47 in Fallout.Fallout 1 & 2 had the AK-112. A fictional 5mm derivativeFallout 3 had the Chinese Assault Rifle (no other designation given), a 5.56mm derivative.I'm not sure why you're upset about the loss of a weapon that has never been in the (canon) games.


Wrong it is in Fallout Tactics, and if there is a 112 then where are those?
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Post » Fri May 28, 2010 12:43 am

You misunderstood his post he SAID the AK-47 has NEVER actually appeared in a canon fallout game. Which it hasn't the only one containing an AK-47 was tactics which even the creator admitted wasn't canon and applogised for how badly he broke from the series. The AK-112 an the Chinese Assault rifle are simply based of the design but not the same weapon.

Thank you, this is what I was saying

Wrong it is in Fallout Tactics, and if there is a 112 then where are those?

Whilst the basic elements of Tactics are canonised (see Mako's post) many of the smaller details are not, I assume that all weapons in the game are not canon unless supported by another source.
As for the AK 112, it was a phased out military rifle, the rifles you see in FO3 are the Army and National Guard's (R91) and those used by deep-cover Chinese agents and commandos (CAR).
Why it isn't in FONV I have no idea, I would assume that it has fallen from used in the Mojave region due to the insertion of the Gun Runners making higher quality weapons and the NCR producing their own service rifles.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 3:38 pm

I go with it being made of petrified turds, until a fallout 3 developer says other-wise.


What a terrible line of making fun at me.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 1:02 pm

Ak-47 is the second most manufactured assault rifles next only to the FN-Fal, which god only knows why. I think the AK is a sturdier, more reliable weapon and can be bought dirt cheap(about $125 US in places like Somalia).

And as far as the ban on assault weapons, someone should tell that to Louisianna, because their weapon laws are much looser than the rest of the United States.

There's no way they've made more FALs than AKs. Maybe the "original" Type 1 AK, with the crappy stamped receiver, but, no. The FAL wasn't made in as much countries as the AK, and the countries that did make it (Britain, Beligum) had much smaller armies than nations such as Russia or China. With regards to reliability, the AK does have the edge, but they're both very reliable. The FAL, with the milled receiver, is a lot sturdier, as well.
We all know the MP-44 is the best, but I guess someone has to debate for the runner-ups. :hehe:
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 12:14 pm

We made our own here in Auatralia aswell the L1A1/2
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 4:51 pm

The AK-47 was issued around the early 1950s, and it soon became the [censored]-kicker of many people, then in fallout new vegas, and the other fallout games, it magically dissappears! How does this happen? did some one wave a magic wand and say goodbye AK!, How come theres no mentioned reference in either fallout 3 or NV? or any of the successors put in? or a look-alike gun?


The AK-47, while fitting with the setting timeline, isn't really a fitting weapon overall. It oozes Russia/Soviet Union all over the place, and the Fallout America is supposed to be an anticommunist region (rejecting those influences). That's, at least, my opinion on it.
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Post » Thu May 27, 2010 10:14 pm

In 2077, wouldn't a weapon from 1947 be pretty rare B)
In Fallout 1 and 2, there's the much later model AK-112, and in those games it says that this weapon is outdated by the time of war and was being phased out (probably to those G3-like weapons in F3)
Now, there's only AK-47's in Fallout Tactics, and though the game is semi-canon, I don't count many of the real-life weapons as canon in the Fallout universe.
Other than that, the other weapons similar to an AK-47 is the Chinese Assault Rifle in F3, and the reason why you can find alot of those in D.C. must be that the chinese smuggled in weapons and personnel for some attack from within. Why else would the weapon of their biggest enemy, who they are actively fighting in Alaska at the time, be in such a great number in such a minor location that is the capital? It's not all over the USA.
I think that sometime in the 20th/21st century, USA and China both produced AK weapons and there was a split in designs which for USA lead to the AK-112, and in China, the Type-93. The 112 and the 93 doesn't look that similar either, the 93 is the one that resembles an AK-47 the most, but it also look very different.

So, what I don't get is why there aren't any AK-112's to be found. I get why there would be chinese weapons in D.C., with the commando ghouls and whatnot, but the AK-112 seemed to be an american weapon and it was just being replaced at the time of the war so it shouldn't be much rarer than the new G3-type weapon right?

The real AK-47 I don't think we'll see. Maybe as an unique weapon that you can steal from a weapon's museum maybe, and with the repair skill, make it work (because weapons in museums should be deactivated, right?)

Edit: The "G3-type weapon", as I call it, is called R91. I'm sorry.
Edit 2: Well, apparently the AK-112 is of Soviet origin... But I thought USA and Soviet were somewhat friendly at the time before the war, since the Cold War now had shifted to USA and China being main enemies instead, and that one of the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Natalia_Dubrovhsky is the grand-child of a Soviet diplomat.
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