Where are the Dragons from?

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:13 pm

Does anyone know where the Dragons that attack Skyrim are from?
I haven't seen anyone talking about it, but I was wondering if any of you guys know?

As far as I know, the Devs haven't given out any information of the origins of the Dragons, so I would speculate that that could be from Akavir. In Oblivion, there were a few books on Akaviri and one said that some the people (more like monsters...) of Akavir were planning on attacking Tamriel at some point. But, I think the books also said that the Dragon population was wiped out, but I guess you never know. It's been like, 200 years and some of them may have survived, right?

What do you guys think?
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Gaelle Courant
 
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:53 am

I don't think they're Akaviri, otherwise they would be led by Tosh Raka, not Alduin. Perhaps Vvardenfell Dragons that got awoken after the eruption of Red Mountain?
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Nathan Hunter
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:45 am

Why do they have to be from somewhere? Why can't Tamriel be the location of thier origin?
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:07 pm

My vote is either:
They have been laying dormant under Skyrim.

They are from Atmora.
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Kelsey Anna Farley
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:17 pm

Underground right?
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Matt Bigelow
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:15 pm

Perhaps they came from the skies? Who is to say their origins are worldly? "You should have acted! They were already here! The Elder Scrolls told of their return!!!!"
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:39 pm

Mexico.
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Kim Kay
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:48 pm

oh oh! i know! a land called Honah Lee! :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:40 am

I don't think they're Akaviri, otherwise they would be led by Tosh Raka, not Alduin. Perhaps Vvardenfell Dragons that got awoken after the eruption of Red Mountain?


Sounds likely.

But here’s the other thing I don't get, I read somewhere that Aldun is the equivalent of Akatosh.
Is this true? I get that Akatosh might hate the cold, and Skyrim is as cold as an Eskimo's turd, but isn't that a bit over the top?
I don't get why the God of time would attack a bunch of Mortals...?
Or am I missing something here?

Edit: Forget it, they're probably from Detroit. Anyone care to answer my new qestion? ^ ^ ^
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:55 pm

Sounds likely.

But here’s the other thing I don't get, I read somewhere that Aldun is the equivalent of Akatosh.
Is this true? I get that Akatosh might hate the cold, and Skyrim is as cold as an Eskimo's turd, but isn't that a bit over the top?
I don't get why the God of time would attack a bunch of Mortals...?
Or am I missing something here?

Cipher 8 has a good thread on that topic.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1161098-dragons-a-thread-to-discuss-all-things-about-skyrims-dragons/
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:52 pm

Sounds likely.

But here’s the other thing I don't get, I read somewhere that Aldun is the equivalent of Akatosh.
Is this true? I get that Akatosh might hate the cold, and Skyrim is as cold as an Eskimo's turd, but isn't that a bit over the top?
I don't get why the God of time would attack a bunch of Mortals...?
Or am I missing something here?

Oh boy... Here we go...
Akatosh is a hero-god of the Imperials, but the Nords see him as Alduin, the world-eater.
They are different representations of the same god (for all we know his name might be Fred) it depends on the point of view and the religion followed. Lorkhan was seen as a hero of early man-kind (the Nedes I believe, who became the Nords) because he was agaist Alduin's side, but the High-Elves see him as evil and causing unrest and change.

So it's just a matter of point-of-view.

EDIT: I think...
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:08 am

I like this question! If the trailer is any indication (which shows a dragon, probably Alduin, breaking away from the stone), I would find it likely they laid dormant underground. Possibly in the mountains themselves. It's anyone's best guess, really.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:02 pm

So, if that really is Aldun or Akatosh, or... Fred, then that would make the Imperials wrong, wouldn't it? :clap:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:35 pm

If anyone says Akavir again, I will rip that person's throat off and eat their intestines in front of them! They are not relevant in any discussion, and the logic is full of holes. Not to mention that ONLY source is pretty shoddy and out of date.

Where they came from? Underground most likely, hiding from mortals and chilling since Tiber allowed them to come to Cyrodiil after they were chased off by cliff racers. Some may have been disguised as one of the 10 races, but I prefer underground.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:03 am

So, if that really is Aldun or Akatosh, or... Fred, then that would make the Imperials wrong, wouldn't it? :clap:

No, they're right in their point-of-view. But wrong in the Nord's point-of-view.
But yes, the Imperials will be the first to complain once their god eats the world. :lol:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:26 pm

But I like my Throat... :bowdown:
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:43 am

If anyone says Akavir again, I will rip that person's throat off and eat their intestines in front of them! They are not relevant in any discussion, and the logic is full of holes. Not to mention that ONLY source is pretty shoddy and out of date.

Where they came from? Underground most likely, hiding from mortals and chilling since Tiber allowed them to come to Cyrodiil after they were chased off by cliff racers. Some may have been disguised as one of the 10 races, but I prefer underground.

Akavir

*Folds arms, smirking*

Anyhow, I don't care where they came from, I just wanna kill em all, gather their souls in little vials and obtain their powers.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:53 pm

Cipher 8 has a good thread on that topic.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1161098-dragons-a-thread-to-discuss-all-things-about-skyrims-dragons/



^This

If you really want to know read everything that Cipher 8 has written.

Also, Akavir.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:53 pm

Sounds likely.

But here’s the other thing I don't get, I read somewhere that Aldun is the equivalent of Akatosh.
Is this true? I get that Akatosh might hate the cold, and Skyrim is as cold as an Eskimo's turd, but isn't that a bit over the top?
I don't get why the God of time would attack a bunch of Mortals...?
Or am I missing something here?

Edit: Forget it, they're probably from Detroit. Anyone care to answer my new qestion? ^ ^ ^

'Attack mortals' somewhat sells short what Alduin does. This isn't about wanting to fight some people, Alduin exists to literally eat the world, so that he might create the next one.

So, if that really is Aldun or Akatosh, or... Fred, then that would make the Imperials wrong, wouldn't it? :clap:

Nope. The gods are shaped by the beliefs and myths surrounding them. Akatosh really exists, just as the Imperials believe; and Alduin really exists, just as the Nords believe. They are both the Dragon God of Time, and they are completely different people; all at the same time.

Akatosh probably isn't too thrilled with what Alduin is getting up to. Neither, likely, is Auriel, Tosh Raka, or some of the other incarnations of the Time God; except for the Yokundan one, who I think is on the same page with Alduin.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:24 pm

Cipher 8 has a good thread on that topic.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1161098-dragons-a-thread-to-discuss-all-things-about-skyrims-dragons/



^This

If you really want to know read everything that Cipher 8 has written.

Also, Akavir.


Thank you for posting the link. The thread keeps falling down there because everybody has already commented but I redid the poll with 10 new questions, about the trailer, so if you got the time stop by and comment with your answers. :D

And to the OP if you got any more questions on dragons, feel free to ask them in there. I'll answer to the best of my understanding.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:43 am

If anyone says Akavir again, I will rip that person's throat off and eat their intestines in front of them! They are not relevant in any discussion, and the logic is full of holes. Not to mention that ONLY source is pretty shoddy and out of date.

Where they came from? Underground most likely, hiding from mortals and chilling since Tiber allowed them to come to Cyrodiil after they were chased off by cliff racers. Some may have been disguised as one of the 10 races, but I prefer underground.

Its not often I agree with Hellmouth, but in this I do. I am so sick of hearing Akavir, the "evidence" for it is not only old, it only proves they are not from Akavir. According to the Mysterious Akavir, the dragons there all died. And who actually believes Tosh Raka willed himself into a dragon? Far more likely he uses it as a title, he is emperor after all...

I will myself to have Skyrim
*concentrates*
Nope nothing...
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:49 pm

I suspect that the dragons are returning from outside of time, whence they were banished. They have since returned to the time-space continuum to help Satakal eat everything.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:42 pm

Well children you see, dargons come from a mysterious parallel plane of existence called Middle-earth. This is also were the elves came from. See, in THEIR world Akatosh/Alduin/Fred is actualy a dragon named Smaug. And about 5 thousand eons ago a [censored] shot Smaug/Alduin/Akatosh/Fred and he fell into lake, and then into Nirn. There you have it.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:00 pm

.... :facepalm:
...should never have said Fred...
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:01 pm

So, if that really is Aldun or Akatosh, or... Fred, then that would make the Imperials wrong, wouldn't it? :clap:



Not necessarily, because we don't actually know why the dragons are here... we don't know the story. For all we know the dragons could come back as benevolent creatures, but humans and elves could be so distraught by the Nordic interpretation of the god (Fred? Lmao) that they could wage war against the dragons, regardless of the dragons' intent. Maybe imperials are right, and its akatosh coming to cleanse the world of a greater evil, and humans are just blind to the truth. Or maybe humans are that evil. It all depends on perspective at this point. We don't know how the dragons are ultimately going to play into the story.
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