Where does everyone get their wine?

Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:01 am

Think about it. There are no natural graqes in Skyrim. There are no wineyards either. So that must mean that they have wine imported into Skyrim via the East Empire Company.

But that would mean that Skyrim and the Empire are allies, which they're not, so that means Skyrim is funding the Empire via purchase of wine? Wouldn't the civil war end faster if they stopped funding the Empire in this way?

By the way, I don't care if this doesn't make sense.
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Campbell
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:55 am

Wine isn't strictly made from graqes, hell valenwood wine is made out of MEAT and skyrim is a province of the Cyrodiilic empire so yes they are allies since the stormcloak victory isn't canon.

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Nicholas
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:35 am

Jasbay graqes, juniper berries and snow berries.
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Jason White
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Oh and Argonian wine has blood in it supposedly though Argonian bloodwine could be called that because it looks like blood and has a blood-like texture.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:30 pm

You can't make wine out of meat. I don't think you can produce any kind of alcohol from it, since it contains virtually no carbohydrates. Your best bet is bacon-flavoured vodka. :wink:

As for Skyrim wine, well, they do have a few berry fruits, as Michael already listed. You can also make wine out of other fruit: apples, plums, cherries, what have you. But the fruit is usually included in the name of wine, so I'm not sure if the beverages we find in Skyrim are anything else than regular wine made from graqes unless the name specifically says so.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:37 am

The Bosmer found a way since they have wineries in Valenwood and due to the green pact they can't use fruits or anything.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Niruin

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:52 am

Meat? wat.

Well Oblivion > France > vineyards.

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Everardo Montano
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:42 am

No, it means that the East Empire Co has a contract with the likes of Cyrodill Vineyards.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:30 am

I assume the East Empire Company would still do bussiness with Skyrim, no matter who wins.

They have an office in Windhelm aswell.

Wether Skyrim is allied or not depends on how you look at it.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:13 am

There's also only a few Imperial Soldiers defending the Capital of Imperial Skyrim, the Jarls don't mind that there are bandits in control of huge forts only a stone's throw from their cities and Nazeem owns the key to a house that doesn't exist.

As with all things in a video game, you need to take what's shown as just a snippet of what would actually be. One would presume that there are graqes grown in the farmland around Whiterun or something along those lines, but it wasn't deemed important enough to be shown in the game. Besides, as pointed out above, there are plenty of other fruits with which alcoholic beverages can be made.

It's also likely that traders would bring imported goods from the East Empire Company to the lands controlled by the Stormcloaks. I bet Ulfric is quite the fan of the Empire while he's lying in his bed under his warm Colovian wool sheets, sipping Surilie Brothers wine and smelling incense from Elsweyr ;)
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:04 am

The Green Pact only forbids them from using plant material grown in Valenwood. I think a more sensible suggestion is that they import the graqes and then make the wine.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:27 am

That's a less fun way to think of it.

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Jessica Thomson
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:29 am

Yeah, well no one ever said Stannis was the life of the party.... :P

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:12 am

Okay, I just assumed the East Empire Company would be working with the Empire, even if they didn't in the first place (Example: Merchant Marines shipping war goods during WWII for Britain).

And what kind of fruit is "Alto"? Lute? Flute? Drum?
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:03 am

You can make wine out of any type of fruit.

Interesting question: Where do these apples grow in Tamriel? I never see fruit bearing trees needed to grow them.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:34 am

Apples probably grow in the Emporer's backyard. That's why he's the ruler.

Everyone loves their apples/apple cider.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:30 am

They get it imported in from the Surriele Family in Cyrodiil.

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Ian White
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:05 pm

Exactly. Surrielle is part of the Empire!

Surely, they would be loyal to the Empire, or forced to fund the Empire with a cut of their funds from the sales.

And where did the San family get the graqes for their spiced wine? Did they get them imported from Cyrodiil as well?

It's the Wine Conspiracy!!!
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:53 pm

I would think much of the wine is imported from Skingrad.

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Khamaji Taylor
 
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:17 am

Well, they have a lot of potatoes from which they can make alcohol. Any good mage ought to be able to convert some of it to wine without too much effort....... :banana:

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:19 pm

neither side is canon yet

explain why u think this

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:35 pm

he is 100% positive that the empire will win.
I am a stormcloak supporter and know it is a 50% chance for either side.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:29 am


I think it is irrelevant, as the Thalmor would take over both weakened provinces after one of them wins. Bethesda wouldn't leave a game to have two possible outcomes. It'd be unfair to the people who wanted their side to win.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:19 pm


By azura. He's right.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:45 pm

Well, there's also pheasant meat and dead pheasants, but you don't see any live pheasants running around. Maybe we're just supposed to not think too deeply about it?

I'd think Skyrim would be too cold to grow graqes as we think of them, anyway. Unless the wine is made from Jazbay graqes, I'd think they're imported from Cyrodiil or (probably not lore-friendly) Hammerfell.

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