How much differend would it be from New Reno?

Las Vegas actually appeared in Wasteland, Fallout's predecessor.

it says they encountered them and it doent realy give details. and if it does i dont know about it its cause i only played 3. been thiken bout getten the others, but i think a full on war between the two wheren you get to pick sides wouls be awsome

They didn't encounter the Enclave in Chicago. They did encounter super mutants in that area (actually, the Midwestern Brotherhood was from Chicago and encountered the mutants in Kansas, but Lyons' people don't have to know all the details, they had no contact with the Midwestern faction back then), and that's what's mentioned in Fallout 3 as well.

The Master's mutants from Mariposa (even the dumb ones) were actually more intelligent than the ones from Vault 87 (aside from a few exceptions), and many of them actually joined the Midwestern Brotherhood (which is part of why it's considered rogue by the rest of the Brotherhood).

Canada, in the Toronto area. Would have a DC-like feel, but more wide-open spaces. I think that's where the Commonwealth should be, too. It fits

Eileen

The Commonwealth is Massachusetts, and the Institute is MIT. It's been officially confirmed. See:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Commonwealth

Ah, but from your own wiki it sez:

"The Institute is likely the descendant of the Massachussets Institute of Technology. Little is known about Institute other than that the scientists working in the sealed environment of the institute possesses highly advanced technology and technological skills."

and

"The following is based on J.E. Sawyer's Fallout Role-Playing Game. This information is based on Van Buren and/or created by Mr. Sawyer himself. It is not canon but may be useful as "flavor" material."

Also, the actual historical Railroad ended in Canada.

Just saying that it could be.

My 2 caps

Eileen

The "most likely" refers only to the Institute, not the Commonwealth. The fact that the Commonwealth is Massachusetts has been confirmed by Emil Pagliarulo, and therefore the Institute is most likely the MIT, since it's the most famous institute in that state.



This refers only to the exact division of the pre-War United States into commonwealths, not to the fact that the Commonwealth referred to in Fallout 3 is Massachusetts.



Nope, it couldn't.

Might wanna update the wiki with the Emil confirmation, eh? Unless I missed it. Which is entirely possible.

Eileen

I like the idea with Las Vegas, including Area 51 (finding more Alien weapons (blaster, rifle, mines, grenades) and energy weapons (plasma gatling, "plasma rocket launcher",...), LA and San Diego. Extending the Area

Area 51 can also be an Enclave outpost or better an Enclave headquater and in LA the BOS are located fighting against them.

Why are there no tanks or helicopters in the game? You find car wrecks and crashed airplanes, busses and trucks but not so much military things

also near Area 51 new monsters like alien mutants or super alien mutants created by the Enclave.

what against the idea that you are fleeing from a vault near LA and mutate in the worst case during the game to a super mutant?

LA appeared in Fallout 1. See:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Boneyard

it would be kind of cool to see Midwestern brotherhood vs. the enclave or maybe the original brotherhood.

I don't see a problem to go back to the Area of LA. The enclave could be quiet all the time, doing tests on individuals and creatures, cloning, developing new weapons (the weapons I mentioned before maybe?). coming from the ground (huge vault with underground factories, etc...)

the three best places for FO4 would have to be ,in order of coolness, L.A. (California in gen.) The Commonwealth , or Chicago because thier the only place realy set up by the game. Their should be full on wars where ever it is. BOS and Enclave ( 2 independent forces working together) V. Chinesse invasion force (not ghouls) (contact with a kind of Chinesse Enclave) (L.A.) (Future, relative to 2277), Institute forces V. United Enclave BOS (a single force, the difference beteween the two is ancient history) (Commonwealth) (distant future), BOS (rouge midwest division) V. Enclave (Chicago) (past or present)(you can pick sides). YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL KIDS AND NO SUB WAYS AS ONLY MEANS OF TRANSPOTATION IN CITY. MORE HALO 3 LESS GTA. DRUGS SHOULD MAKE YOU TRIP

USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA! I think I've made myself clear

1) bump up the era to the 60's
2) add hippies and put it in San Fransico
3) ???
4) Profit

Wow already talking about Fallout 4 lol I would like to see china.....but for now move over let TESV come in. bliviongate:

I, in my honest opinion, reckons it should take place in Europe, cos if you study the lore, it says Europe brokedown into anarchy following the oil dry up in like 2060..Europe, of course, msot likely would of been nuked, and pretty bollocksed up......somewhere like England, or France-German border.....a cross-border place in Europe would be good, as it would have all the hating of one-another, like lets say you have the game based in the area around Strasbourg, or Luxembourg....for instance, as that is rather developed, and border country.....just a thought

though if they were to stick to America, a place with MUCH more people and settlements, like come on, the game is set about 200 years after the war, and there is like, 50 people (that arent raiders/slavers) that you can have a dialogue with........Somwhere like New York, or Chicago, Seattle (as some one else suggested) I dunno, its up to bethseda

San Fran was in FO2.

i agree with commander adama i think london or moscow would be sweet

My list of Choices are in this order and with the idea of keeping to how the civilizations would have held on to the ideas from the 50's from each ones perspective. Now Advertising/Propaganda wasn't used in every country that I will describe.

#1. Japan (I have a post about this subject in the Fallout Lore section if you wish to read it) ------------> http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=952544&st=0#entry13762578

Reason = Lets see, Reconstruction continues in Japan during the 1950s, which is funded by the United States which continued its occupation of Japan post World War II up until the 2050's. Social changes took place which in the Fallout Universe would have been prolonged, including democratic elections and universal suffrage though the military presence would have changed after America withdrew from the country after adopting its Seclusion/Nationalist policy (A policy that the Japanese once lived by to keep its culture protected from outside influences) along with adopting a partial Mercantilism Economic Theory to prevent products from foreign countries shipping goods that may have been exposed to the Plague. After the discovery of the plague and the nuclear attack on Tel Aviv, Isreal. I think some of the things we could have seen Japanese Society influenced by are elements of warrior honor and dedication as a resurgence of Samurai Traditions were being experienced in Japan during the 50's with many movies like Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa(Which later was adapted into The Magnificent Seven with Steve McQueen and Yul Brynner) and also the idea that radiation could create impressive monsters such as the giant fire breathing Lizard in Gojira by Ishirō Honda (The first Godzilla movie) which both came out in 1954. The heighten fear of an invasion from a combined Korean/Chinese Military which Korea would have been controlled and been a lap dog to China. This sort of experience would have been profound when America decided to pull its troops out of South Korea and Japan, this troop withdrawal would have led to North Korea invading South Korea over the 38th Parallel to unify the country under a Communist government. Thus making the political situation possible in leveraging Japan into becoming forced allies with China during the Invasion of Alaska, and China making Japan a vessel State. The resulting fear of the Japanese populace with regards to a Korean Invasion would have made this a prudent choice for Japan. China would have unleashed Korea on Japan if they didn't act accordingly to the Chinese political demands. This action could also have been reinforced if China decided to invade Taiwan before the Invasion of Alaska, which subsequently would have happened before China attacked Alaska. The close ties with Japan would have made the U.S. High Command more then a little jumpy at the thought of Attacking China over these aggressive actions by the Chinese, but The American President at the time would have more then likely decided against exposing troops to the plague. The inability to give military aid to Taiwan or Japan, the once Democratic Nations, would have made many of the citizens of these nations incredibly upset and their desire to aid the Chinese very profound. However, the resolve and the close American ties with many of the Taiwanese and Japanese would possibly have made things difficult for portions of the respective populaces to be completely allied with China and would impact the Chinese during the invasion of Alaska as the Taiwanese and Japanese used as fodder because of their close ties with America would be looking for asylum.

I could go on but very little is known about what happened at this time and of course all of this is speculation but I will up date the other Places I have Chosen at a later date and also expand on my ideas for Japan too.


#2. China

Reason= Gathering Information

#3. England, The Isle of Man, and Ireland (Moriarty had to come from somewhere)

Reason= Gathering information

#4. European Commonwealth

Reason= Gathering information

#5. Australia, New Zealand, and The Oceanic Regions

Reason= Gathering information

#6. The Middle East

Reason= Gathering information

#7. Africa

Reason= Gathering information

#8. South America and the Caribbean

Reason= Gathering information (When ever the South East of North America is brought into play I am sure it will play an important part on the Caribbean)

#9. Canada and Alaska

Reason= Gathering information

#10. The Great North West and The South East Areas of America

Reason= Gathering information

We've already seen Chicago, in Fallout Tactics. That's the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel's domain, and they've apparently "gone rogue" or something according to Lyons (or another BoS member - I swear I heard it somewhere in the Citadel). I wouldn't read too much into that, given that the Eastern Brotherhood of Steel could also be said to have "gone rogue" by the leadership back in California. All the same, I don't think it'd be too interesting to head back there.

Personally, I like three areas. The Commonwealth and New England would be good option. Seattle would also be cool, and it'd be really interesting to see what the War and two centuries of neglect have done to its environment and infrastructure, plus the Space Needle is pretty much the epitome of the "SCIENCE!" and "The World of Tomorrow!" style that Fallout draws from. Finally, Colorado and the Rockies would also nice. Van Buren is semi-canon as it is, and even if they threw out everything from it, the setting still offers many options, like Denver, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, and the Grand Canyon.

Other interesting areas to see would by the South - I'm thinking New Orleans for some good times :foodndrink: - or Texas. 'Course, I'm a native Texan, so call me biased on that last one. All we've heard is that the oil fields are shot and that Tycho traveled as far as the Gulf before heading back to California.

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I apologize for this derail, but I have to do this.


You must be from No Mutants Allowed.

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Now when the Death Claw gets done with eviscerating you would you please go back into your proper holding pin. Thank you -------------> http://www.nma-fallout.com/

It's Rothchild who says it. And they are likely considered rogue because of two issues - refusing to accept Lost Hills leadership again after contact was reestablished (reestablishing contact with them was actually part of Lyons' mission according to the official FO3 guide), and them admitting super mutants and ghouls into the Brotherhood.