where is the Asian stuff? and why is armour gender morphing

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:33 am

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM. you all think i mean this, http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp1xMjffPSqxh9eNVSNTOo4Qq-asYoneNxx5B-X1PwMd9ibH0o or this http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQELMk00FPYsjlEGfWjJbSjBlWP3BuzzhcxiS9SGM7kzzm1kGcRKw when i mean this http://www.swordsoftheeast.com/ProductImages/hanwei/samurai-dragon-armour-AH2193.jpg and i am not asking every armour to be like this, only that the lore correct ones look more asian

i had to make that big because people aren't reading it before posting and rant about something that has nothing to do about the thread.

in morrowind i loved that daedric/orish samurai look . in oblivion they scraqed that and everything was western. orcish,elven and daedric SHOULD look asian (or at least not western) judging by the pics of the orcish and elvish armour i think they are a little over the top. i cant realy see orcish because its too dark. but its either Asian or some demonic looking armour worn by a Tolkien inspired orc . elven looks too western. i am pretty sure altmer are supposed to be more asian (because they have katanas and kimonos)


secondly- judging by the pictures of the women wearing gold armour and the female bandit. i think armour will be gender morphing again- this saddens me. i want skirts for men and trousers for women- and i hate armour having boob cups.




/concerned


edit:

http://images.uesp.net//4/4f/Altmer_official.jpg


asian cultures in tamriel

altmer
dumner (right next to skyrim, although a bit mixed)
orsimer (also very close, somewhere between japanese and mongolian)
aldmer or whatever the old elves were (those guys were IN skyrim, so they have stuff lying around)

high rock and hammerfell also had lots of stuff hanging around. i am also led to believe argonia and elsywere are asian styled


asian stuff has been around since arena. why is it that it it assumed by some (non lore informed) people that all of tamriel will have purely western designs? skyrim has a lot of immigration, skyrim was also conquered by the first elves so some of their stuff should remain. while another continent has INFLUENCED tamriel in asian stuff, tamriel does have its own asian stuff. oh, and here we are talking about real samurai/mongol/chinese warrior/saracen warrior/ rest of asia stuff. we arent talking about stylized armour of ridiculous proportions that you would see in an mmo.
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Oyuki Manson Lavey
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:36 am

how are you gonna compare an imaginary yellow, 6'5 elf to an Asian person? I can see the similarities but I dunno bout that one. Of course they are the "smart" ones :confused:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:07 am

how are you gonna compare an imaginary yellow, 6'5 elf to an Asian person?


http://images.uesp.net//4/4f/Altmer_official.jpg
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:30 pm

Yes, how dare they have unique armor designs for different regions of the world. Shame on them.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:47 am

As the Art Direction himself said, the armor is more than likely going to have more of a viking/conan feel to it (very wild and untamed). I will admit that the orc armor and the elven armor looked like something that could be out of LOTR, but is that really a bad thing? I personally thought they both looked fantastic. One thing Bethesda does well is to keep their games current and always change the art style. It's definitely apparent they will continue the trend in Skyrim.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:04 am

Yes, how dare they have unique armor designs for different regions of the world. Shame on them.



how dare the armour imported from a different part of the world constantly change upon its arival :facepalm:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:04 am

Seriously... stop whining. You think it's a BAD thing to see the difference in the armor due to gender? And briast cups is a bad thing? I think it would hurt like hell if they weren't there! We don't want asian looking stuff all over the game... this aren't a Final Fantasy.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:29 am

Dude, you're aware that in the illustrations, they're not all using things from their race right. Otherwise, in Morrowind, the daedric weapons would have been made by dunmer

and honestly, I don't really care. I want armor to look good, not to look "oh this is eastern design!"
I don't see why exactly they should generalize anyways. it's their world.

and BTW, that's not a kimono. that's a generic robe
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:46 am

http://images.uesp.net//4/4f/Altmer_official.jpg

Zing...

I like to see more asian influences, but you be surprise at the number of people who wouldn't.
"I'm sick of games with all this asain crap, THERE IS NO ASIA IN TAMRIEL! herp derp" they say, ignoring all the other real world cultural influences.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:56 am

Orcish was still Asian in Oblivion, no reason not to expect that to continue in Skyrim.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:43 pm

how are you gonna compare an imaginary yellow, 6'5 elf to an Asian person? I can see the similarities but I dunno bout that one. Of course they are the "smart" ones :confused:

Dude, that comment was so non-PC I don't even know where to begin. :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:33 pm

There was Asian influence in oblivion. remember the blades and cloud ruler temple?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:47 am

Bah. I trust BGS to make it look good and unique, each game stands alone in TES and Skyrim is no different.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:51 pm

Seriously... stop whining. You think it's a BAD thing to see the difference in the armor due to gender? And briast cups is a bad thing? I think it would hurt like hell if they weren't there! We don't want asian looking stuff all over the game... this aren't a Final Fantasy.



because if you steal armour from a woman and you are a man... it magicaly looses the skirt and the pauldrons become giant? and we dont want asian stuff. western stuff is ok because we all know that a fantasy land is only going to have straight swords and renaisance cloths :facepalm:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:27 am

How are the boobs supposeed to fit then?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:20 am

Personally, I believe there's room for an Asian influence. Look at The Reach, in the west of Skyrim, on the border with Hammerfell and High Rock. The Reachmen and the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-first-edition-high-rock (though the Bjoulsae are probably more High Rock than Skyrim) definitely have the potential for a Mongol-type influence, that would fit the setting perfectly.

Not to mention, they could always bring back some of the more Akaviri-inspired armour and weapon styles from Cyrodiil (the Nibenese in particular- give us some http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Imperial_Dragonscale_Armor#Imperial_Dragonscale_Armor!). AND there's the whole Vedic influence that a lot of the Nordic myths seem to have, IMO.

"Asian" doesn't have to mean "Japanese", which is the impression I'm getting here.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:33 am

What?! Seriously? I thought those female armours looked seriously awesome and sixy at the same time. I am very impressed!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:30 am

lol "asian" designs...sigh...this is a WESTERN rpg as todd explains in the hub videos not a jrpg!NOT an asian game...go play final fantasy.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:55 am

What?! Seriously? I thought those female armours looked seriously awesome and sixy at the same time. I am very impressed!




but why does it turn into a non revealing set with no skirt and trousers whilst adding massive pauldrons when a man equips it? sureley a man can wear a dress?



@ fangor


do some tes research. from that coment i guess you have played oblivion for an hour or two and have never realy experienced any elder scrolls
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:11 am

We seriously need a new Jade Empire game. :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:22 am

You want asian? Make a mod to visit Akavir. Thats was where asian culture was, except all the men there are dead...
Needless to say, thats where the asian stuff is.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:13 am

How are the boobs supposeed to fit then?


Boobs are squishy. The last thing you want in a set of armor is a channel which guides an oncoming blade directly to the center of your chest. Armor should guide weapons away from your vitals.

Still, it's fantasy. The fact that you can pick up a piece of armor off a dead enemy and wear it without having to have it refitted by an armorer is unrealistic, but we accept it for reasons of ease of gameplay.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:26 am

You want asian? Make a mod to visit Akavir. Thats was where asian culture was, except all the men there are dead...
Needless to say, thats where the asian stuff is.


asian cultures in tamriel

altmer
dumner (right next to skyrim, although a bit mixed)
orsimer (also very close)
aldmer or whatever the old elves were (those guys were IN skyrim, so they have stuff lying around)

high rock and hammerfell also had lots of stuff hanging around. i am also led to believe argonia and elsywere are asian styled
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:25 am

in morrowind i loved that daedric/orish samurai look . in oblivion they scraqed that and everything was western. orcish,elven and daedric SHOULD look asian (or at least not western) judging by the pics of the orcish and elvish armour i think they are a little over the top. i cant realy see orcish because its too dark. but its either Asian or some demonic looking armour worn by a Tolkien inspired orc . elven looks too western. i am pretty sure altmer are supposed to be more asian (because they have katanas and kimonos)


secondly- judging by the pictures of the women wearing gold armour and the female bandit. i think armour will be gender morphing again- this saddens me. i want skirts for men and trousers for women- and i hate armour having boob cups.




/concerned


The "Elven" Armor appears the have similarities to the Elven Armor of Oblivion. I'm not sure if its High Elven(Altmer) or if it was meant to be Ayleid, I always felt it resembled the Ayleid ruins, so I figured it wasn't High Elven. In any case, its a bit of misnomer, since "Elven" could mean any of the elves, but they all clearly have different styles. Glass Armor is from Morrowind but then you also have to realize that not all armor from Morrowind is glass or looks like that armor.

I wouldn't be very upset about it. And the Orcs look more Mongolian, which fits better IMO anyways.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:55 am

secondly- judging by the pictures of the women wearing gold armour and the female bandit. i think armour will be gender morphing again- this saddens me. i want skirts for men and trousers for women- and i hate armour having boob cups.

Look at the cover art for arena, the first TES game, and you will see a half naked woman. Lets face it, its a video game, women and men aren't treated the same in video games.
If you feel that women should look identical to men while wearing armor, mod it or find a mod for it, because the way Bethesda is behaving is the norm and it will be excepted as such.

asian cultures in tamriel

altmer
dumner (right next to skyrim, although a bit mixed)
orsimer (also very close)
aldmer or whatever the old elves were (those guys were IN skyrim, so they have stuff lying around)

high rock and hammerfell also had lots of stuff hanging around. i am also led to believe argonia and elsywere are asian styled

The katanas that you saw in other games were an influence from akavir. Orcish armor has a helmet that looked slightly asian because of the metal piece on the front of it. And elves are not necessarily similar to asian culture. The dunmer are not asian at all, look at their clothes and architecture. Altmer don't have asian architecture if you read about them. The only reference you see that is potentialy asian are katanas, wakizashis, and tantos. And of course the armor and katanas used by the blades, which are nearly identical to the armor and weapons used by the invading akavir soldiers.

Asian culture once existed in TES, although not in game, because those were the people of akavir. Read up on akavir and you will see the Tsaesci killed all of the men. If you want Asian culture, mod it in, hope we visit akavir one day, or give up. Because asain culture just doesn't exist in TES.
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