where do the divines live?

Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:50 pm

Just about every race has a different take on Lorkhan/Shor/Shezzar, and whether or not that his idea was a good or bad thing. Some say Lorkhan tricked the Aedra, while others said he merely convinced, or even inspired them into creation. Ultimately though he was stricken down, and had his heart torn out. However, he is far from dead. His heart is, as it claims is "The heart of the world." still beats on, while his 'ghost' seeks to reunite with it. Lorkhan is really one of the biggest participants in the world.

Isn't the heart destroyed though? It was the key to the red tower right?
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 am

Isn't the heart destroyed though? It was the key to the red tower right?
Kagrenac's enchantments on the heart were undone, the heart itself is fine.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:58 am

so the "parts" have to "be" somewhere. some "parts" are the ground and sky etc... and some are off giving blessings and all that bull [censored]. but none of those "parts" are living in a metaphysical dope ass looking palace?
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Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:06 pm

Isn't the heart destroyed though? It was the key to the red tower right?
The heart was unbound from the enchantments placed upon it. It certainly is no longer the functional stone of Red Tower, but its far from gone. Where it did go (And whether or not it has a physical form that can be perceived) however, is anyones guess.
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Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:55 pm

Kagrenac's enchantments on the heart were undone, the heart itself is fine.

What would happen if it was destroyed? unmaking Mundus?
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Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:05 pm

What would happen if it was destroyed? unmaking Mundus?
ideally this is what the thalmor plan to do.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:08 am

so the "parts" have to "be" somewhere. some "parts" are the ground and sky etc... and some are off giving blessings and all that bull [censored]. but none of those "parts" are living in a metaphysical dope ass looking palace?
If you tore off all your limbs and pasted them onto something else, do you think you'd be getting far?
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:21 am

If you tore off all your limbs and pasted them onto something else, do you think you'd be getting far?
im also not a GOD so i don't think that applies.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:20 am

im also not a GOD so i don't think that applies.

The aetherius that the nine worshipper go to is actually dreamsleeve. aetherius is the realm of magic, the one living there is probably the magne-ge.

So no, they don't live in a palace.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:50 am

I wonder if Nirn is made up of a bunch of parts of the Divines does that mean use keening, sunder, and wraithguard on the earth I will become divine.
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Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:11 pm

The aetherius that the nine worshipper go to is actually dreamsleeve. aetherius is the realm of magic, the one living there is probably the magne-ge.

So no, they don't live in a palace.
ok. that was the answer i was looking for.
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Post » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:31 pm

I wonder if Nirn is made up of a bunch of parts of the Divines does that mean use keening, sunder, and wraithguard on the earth I will become divine.

Who knows? The only one that try to become divine except by mantling is the dwemer and they fail.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:11 am

Who knows? The only one that try to become divine except by mantling is the dwemer and they fail.
yeah, we all know how that turned out.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:38 am

Who knows? The only one that try to become divine except by mantling is the dwemer and they fail.
Alright, scratch that, there is the tribunal. But they were using the heart of Lorkhan.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:31 am

oh, well that svcks. can they you know, like, manifest? do they have personalities?

Yes, they have on occasion, namely as avatars. We see a few during the course of Morrowind, and a avatar of Akatosh at the end of Oblivion.
Mind to OP, that these "avatars" are probably just reflections of mortal belief, as all things Aedra tend to be. That is to say, the Aedra are dead, so they obviously aren't alive. Mortal belief bends their corpses (or rather, refracts light through their corpses that are lenses) to become different personalities; this is why Alduin, Akatosh, Alessian-Akatosh, Alkosh, Tosh Raka, and Alduin are all different gods (Alessia-Akatosh and Tosh Raka may be exceptions to this rule, but probably aren't), as the same with Kyne and Kynereth, etc.

Daedra have a more "solid" existence in regards to their personality and manifestations, because they aren't dead.

Aedra are dead, chopped up, pieces of god-flesh grafted together into an abominable universe. And no, they do not live in a dope ass palace. I smell a meme coming on.
A final note, Aedra's souls (or maybe pieces of them) exist in Aetherius. Maybe. Very unlikely, but not outside of the realm of possibility.

Alright, scratch that, there is the tribunal. But they were using the heart of Lorkhan.
They didn't mantle. Well, Vivec maybe, but he mantled himself if he did from another timestream.

Mantling doesn't work that way either. Mantling is when something and something else become so alike no one can tell the difference which means there is no difference. See Sheogorath/Champion of Cyrodiil and Hjalti+Ysmir+Artcus/Tiber Septim/Lorkhan/Shor/Talos.
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Post » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:14 am

The Aedra live in Atherius.

Not all the Aedra who participated in creating mundus died. Some were weakened and decided to remain in the world, some died, and some like Magnus took off and returned to Atherius.


Lorkhan's heart was separated from his body. Lorkhan now roams the world as a wraith. (If you notice, one of Karegnac's tools is called 'Wraithguard' )


I remember in one of the TES games the player gets to visit Atherius to find the Mantella
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