That was Father Clifford, who was a ordained Catholic priest. Diego was preparing to become a priest himself. You learn in Point Lookout that there is a Catholic seminary out there training new priests and nuns. It wouldn't surprise me....the Catholic Church survived Rome's crackup, why not the Great War? They can show religion in the game without cramming it down people's throats....gamesas did fine with FO3 and it's DLCs.

Speaking as an atheist, but: I do think it's slightly odd that there isn't a single church in the Mojave. I'm not sure that even in the event of a nuclear holocaust, absolutely everyone would abandon the idea of God, and one would think that most communities would have a place of worship of some kind whatever their religion, old world or new.

Speaking as a atheist as-well, wouldn't people say "why would God do such a thing to us??" Mmmmmm. Or "why would god let this happen?" Why have faith when there is no faith left to spare?

I was gonna say that as well, in a world blown to hell and back it's pretty easy for some people to go "If there is a god, why would he let this happen?"

But also, religion gives some people the strength to carry on despite all the horrible things around them. It just varies from individual to individual. Maybe we'll see Mormon churches and the like in Honest Hearts.

First religious nuts I see, I'm going to splatter them all over the place, to hell with the consequences!!

On RNV, an interviewer said, "God sent us two angels." There is religion, but I think that Bethesda told Obsidian not to put it in to avoid much controversy.

Now, I am a religious nut personally, but I think, not being biased, that most religions WOULD have survived the holocaust. Religion gives hope, and people need hope after a holocaust.

Mormans survived as shown at New Caanan, and Christianity survived, maybe not in its full form, but as shown at Rivet City and the Abbey of the Road, it did survive the great war. There were nuns at Point Lookout as well.

In Fallout 1, you had the Church of the Cathedral as well.

Church of the Cathedral was a bunch of yahoos...

You know those 2 angels were the Courier and Boone killing a Legion raiding party at Bitter Springs, right? Very religious indeed.

Yeah, but most did now know that the Master was dipping people. I have to say, the message of peace and unity is fairly attractive.

@Jolipinator, I think that the interviewed person knew they were humans, but you know. Heroes are called angels nowadays.

Heres how it goes why would those people believe in something like that. Further more they never seen "The Master" Nor do they know his exact intentions of what he wanted to do. How can you believe in something you cant see....

Same reason I believe in a consience and free will :thumbsup: I don't see those things but I know they are there.

New vegas and the Mojave is a gloriously sinful place. There is no place for religion in 'this' FO game...

Personally I'd rather there were no religion in any games. It's pretty much an instant 'turn off' for me once I see it.

How can't you believe in what you can't see? Faith is just that. Faith. You have faith God doesn't exist, Alex has faith God does exist.

In the end, we are all searching for something to devote our life to. Love, six, Self, God, Violence, Greed. Whatever your pursuit, that's what drives you. Personally, if someone in the wasteland believes an old glowing cardboard box is God on earth, and it's allowed them to become a wo/man spreading a message of kindness and human purpose, who are we to deny people of their right to self expression? It isnt hurting anyone, let them be.

@Door- Speaking as a young man who has tread many paths of speaking and thinking, I find the use of religion in a non forced way to be very delightful.

Can't say I care. It would add to the game if there was a well written and implemented religious group of sorts to create some controversy, but I think the game does fine without one too.

I will not! If (in the game obviously....) I see anyone like that I WILL get medievil on them and make sure I separate every part of them from every other part. It quite literally makes me feel ill. The belief in gods/higher being etc is nothing but human arrogance, wishfull thinking, brainwashing and a (completely rational) fear of ones own mortality.

A religion need some form of organization of philosophy, otherwise they are just faith.

Anyways, Brotherhood of Steel is a religion.

There's a group of Mormons still in Utah, that's for sure. Maybe we'll meet some in New Canaan.

Sure they would. But for everyone who saw the apocalypse as proof of a godless universe, there'd be someone else who saw it as an instrument of His wrath, or fulfilment of some end-of-the-world prophecy, or a reason to hope even more fervently that there is an afterlife. People would interpret these events in myriad ways.

People still go to church in New Orleans and Port-au-Prince. Temples in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt. Religion's pretty ingrained in our behaviour as a species. If we survive a nuclear holocaust, religion will too, one way or another.



And yet there was religion in Bethesda's Fallout 3...

I wonder if they'll be like in the Van Buuren documents, IE, New Canaan was supposed to be a sort of paradise in the wasteland and so on. I wonder just how Mormon they'll be.

@Doom- That kind of attitude is about a hairline seperation from bigotry. Anyway, let's take this to PMs if you like, religion is a forbidden topic.

That may be so, they weren't living in an alternate universe though. One were there are quite literally creatures that will kill and eat you if you are anything less than ruthless.
I find this to be quite absurd, people will fight tooth and nail against aliens being in a DLC but actually 'want' something as ridiculous and contrived as 'religion' in an RPG/FPS...

As long as there are humans, there will be religion. Wasteland or not.

In Religions v. Cults,religions usually have some historical and factual basis, in relation to the supernatural, which said debates of the existence of such are not allowed on these forums, if memory serves. Cults generally follow one man, their "leader", who determines all dogma of said cult.

I disagree.
Alas its not overly important tbh. If religion is brought heavily into FO I can either have a lot of fun killing them all, OR, there are plenty of other games to play out there.

I can't be a part of this type of discussion anymore though. It honestly gets me far too worked up

I really don't care. They are in Sin City after all.

Still there are some groups I would call religious. Followers of the Apocalypse being the most notable one.

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