So the world was decimated by nuclear warheads, people are constantly dying, and life svcks, but yet there is NO form of religion in the Mojave? Does anybody else think this is strange? The first thing people would do in a world like this is follow some form of religion, gradually expanding. Heck, Fallout 3 had two religion groups and one of the groups worshipped an atomic bomb. I don't know if anyone is like me, but I think it is ridiculous that there is not a single religious group in Goodsprings, Novac, Bittersprings, New Vegas, Freeside, Jacobstown, etc. You'd think atleast one town believed in something.

Anyway I set up a poll to see what you guys think. Should religious groups be in Fallout: New Vegas (I know they won't, but do you think they should)? Or do you think that its better there aren't any?

Gambling is the only religion people need in Vegas.

Well i remember diego in fo3 was a priest and arn't the bos techno religious ? But yeah i'm surprised there arn't any preachers in the wastes .

Bright Brotherhood is sort of a cult.
Legion is also fairly religious.
Kings are also a form of cult.
Same with Boomers.

/imo

Since when is a cult a religion :confused: ?

Idunno, what is the requirements of a religion?

Not really sure but i thought a religion and cult were separate although i aint Jesus you dig :tops: .

Way I figure a cult is a collection of people that believe in the same goal and follow a leader. (A prophet)
And that any religion is first born out of a cult.

If a religion "has to" answer:
* Life after death.
* Creation of the world.
* Where supernatural things come from.
* And to have a "god" or several to pray to.
Then I guess none of them are religions except for Legion perhaps.


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Got this from a website:

"What is the definition of religion?

The definition of religion is not easy to find. There are many interpretations of what defines a religion but not one that can be said to be the most accurate.

Some of them are:
* A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny.
* An institution to express belief in a divine power.
* A belief concerning the supernatural, sacred, or divine, and the practices and institutions associated with such belief.
* The sum total of answers given to explain humankind’s relationship with the universe.

In dictionaries, religion is defined as “any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God.” Also, “a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.”"

Source: http://www.allaboutreligion.org/definition-of-religion-faq.htm

So I guess no, Kings, Boomers and Bright Brotherhood are not religions.

Bright Brotherhood...not really closet thing so far
Legion: I've never done a Legion playthrough (just got the game like a week ago) so I could be missing something, but they definitely don't have any preachers
Kings: This is not a religion. They are more of gang than anything else.
Boomers: Sames as the kings.

Maybe I should clarify: By religious group I mean a group of people that meet somewhere and have a preacher preach to them about some kind of religion. Fallout 3 had Father Clifford and the Atom guy (can't remember his name). Both of the groups met somewhere and listened to a sermon, which is nowhere to be found in New Vegas.

There is a thin line between Religion and cult. I've always viewed religion as just being widespread enough to be recognized as a religion. It's not allowed on this forum to discuss the technicalities, however. Basically, what Gabe said. People do have their various beliefs, and I'm sure there are some other religious people in the game, it's just that their beliefs aren't paramount enough in their life to discuss with strangers or even have a church.


Also, what do you mean by "not really" for Bright Brotherhood? Jason Bright absolutely preaches about it. If your definition is having a preacher and meeting somewhere, then the Brights fit it perfectly.

Don't forget the Son's of Atom from Megaton

The Bright Brotherhood are the closest to what I'd consider a religious faction in Fallout: NV though.

Legion has no deity, they adhere to their view of morality.

Kings; could be considered religious in a way. But they're meerely emulating a person from the past.

But, yes, there should be some more religion in Fallout. It would add to the depth of the world. But then again these days people whine about religion too easily.

I don't know, maybe I should reconsider it. I rushed through his mission, but I think I was getting to technical with it (which is why I said not really).




I can't consider the Kings being religious. They don't really do anything to "teach" the ways of "the King," they just put on the clothes and have the same haircut.

They don't?
It's been awhile since I dealt with them but IIRC they're about the ideal that everyone can become something, everyone can be somebody, everyone can be a king in their own way.
Isn't that some form of teaching?

Actually not everybody can be a king. The King says that normally they don't let people in (they make an exception for you if you want), so there not really open to new members. I'm not really sure where your getting the "in their own way" part from, but I may have missed something (I only went through all of The King's dialog). They don't have any form of worship, other than dress like Elvis, which is more out of trying to "be cool" (they consider him the king of the cool) than actually worshiping him.

As I said, was a long time since I dealt with them, my knowledge of them may have faded.

NO NO NO NO AND NO. Religion starts wars.

Look at the Muslims and Hindus.

Yes religion is controversial, but it is also part of all societies in some form. I don't want the religions we may practice in real life to be in the game, but rather made up religions. It would definitely add more depth, and those wars you mention could fit into an interesting plot.

Still dont like the idea. Religion is just a excuse to start wars and controversy.

No no no no NO!!

I repeat NO!

Keep your bibles to yourselves!

Yes exactly couldn't be said any better.

Ohh i agree but it's quite strange that theres none nice some would say :tops: .

Yeah Brotherhood Brite is some form of religious group, because speaks of how the divine brought me there. He speaks of the devine doing alot of stuff.

I d say there r religious fanatics in fo nv

Yes i would say.

Would you consider the followers of the apocolypse religious? And i dont know if i havent found them yet but i assumed the mormons and hubbologists would be back?

I'm sure there is religion in the wasteland, no doubt! If there's politics to be found, religion will be snapping on it's heels..
But religion is such a sensitive topic, maybe the designers decided to leave it out? Quite sensible, i think!
One wrong thing said, or one religion inapropriately portraid, can open a whole can of worms..

It would be such a difficult topic to approach, and there would allways be someone who'd be offended by the views... It's just easier to leave it out!
I'm stuck in the middle of a tug of war between some catholics and some JW's IRL, I'm quite happy not to have to deal with that [censored] in a game, which is after all meant to be an escape from real life..

Less religions, more guns. That seems to work for Fallout.