there's always the steam pre-order?

but im getting it for ps3 isnt steam for pc only?

For the same reason you only see the security version of the Hockler Machine Pistol in those preorder packs. The Spec ops pack is mostly oriented towards security, the Psycho pack is mostly oriented towards resistance. Although all gear except the masks is useable by both factions, they each come with a mask specific to a single faction. Hence, the gear and artwork in the pics is mostly oriented towards a single faction. And like I said, the Caeser revolver is a break top. The normal revolver is a swing out. And if you look at the the link I provided

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfvfIXTFWJc&feature=channel

At 1:07 you can see the swing out revolver is the only revolver listed, implying that the break top revolver (Caeser) Is not part of the normal weapons list.

For PC, the Psycho pack is also available from Direct2Drive

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/08/17/brink-pre-order-bonuses-announced/

Yes but i dont want to get a pack that is more for the reisstance since im security, but sadly it might be my only choice, dont know why walmart is such a jerkoff for D:<

They have made both sides identical as far as gameplay goes, either the Caesar can be used by both sides, or its just a resistance skin for the stock revolver.

And where's evidence you have of that.
Also, that doesn't make any sense. They may be geared towards one faction, but the Silencer and the Greeneye BOTH have their Security Version counterparts shown.

The Caesar most likely is a break top revolver, its based on the Russian REX revolver, which is a break top, and the skin even has a big hinge in front of the trigger.

I suppose its possible (maybe even likely) that they didn't bother giving it its own animation though.

So yes, the greeneye and silencer have two skins shown when they are the accessory, and not even the main attraction. You would think that if the weapons had a pair of skins, showing both would be more important than showing two skins for the upgrade. Which is why i am a bit worried that the two exclusive weapons may just be a new skin for the normal revolver and Tampa SMG.

Can anyone e-mail SD or Bethesda or whoever is handling the pre-order stuff and ask them about it or anything? all this stuff is worrying me that i will just get a gun skin that i wont even care about and a ressitance only mask that i wont use for the most part. They should have made it more clear when they announced the packs.

That's what I'm saying, it doesn't make sense to not show another skin when they show the other skins for the minor things.
But the Hockler Machine Pistol is probably a skin for one of the machine pistols, not an SMG (If it is a skin.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4y2P0r7K0

19 seconds in. 0:19. You can see him loading the gun as a break top. Furthermore, just LOOK at the gun 19 seconds in. Freeze the video just as he is about to fire it. Then compare it to this:

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/08/17/brink-pre-order-bonuses-announced/

Except for the fact that the gun in the Choir of Guns trailer looks like a security weapon, that is to say, not rusted, it looks exactly the same.

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/08/17/brink-pre-order-bonuses-announced/

The Doom pack and Fallout pack explicitly say they have skins. They Psycho pack and Spec ops pack explicitly say they have weapons.

*sigh* You're not getting it.
You've showed us those many many times, but I see no real evidence of there being a "Security" version of the revolver. All you have is a video that has a gun that looks a lot like the Caesar Revolver, and then a link to something that shows no evidence of there even being such a gun and in fact it shows evidence supporting the fact there isn't one.
I'm split 50/50 on the fact that the Caesar Revolver could be an actual gun, or a skin (It really looks like it could either way at this point.) but I see 0 evidence of there being a Security Version.

I see two possible things
1. There is a Top Loading revolver in the game that is there normally, and the Caesar Revolver is an improved/different stat version that is Resistance Only.
2. There is a Top Loading revolver in the game that is there normally, and the Caesar Revolver is a skin that is Resistance Only.

Well.. They say it is an ''exclusive gun'', so it sure would be strange it it was just a skin, that re-skins the whole gun (not only colour)

And if it now is a gun, the Security skin might just be the same gun, except blue-ish, gray, or black, without those cute little stickers and broken edges

I agree it'd be strange, but I could see them doing that.
And again... nothing even points to there being a security version of it, or a resistance version of the Hockler.

At this point i might just get the DOOM pack, at least with that i know its for both factions even tho if its just tatooes and such.

i already pre ordered from steam for the Ops pack. cool guns, cool mask , cool everything. also i just sit back and download on release day, no going to the store where there are lines and waiting for hours :celebration: :celebration:

In the Psycho Preorder pack, they said that the Grin Mask is exclusive to resistance. They did not say that anything else is, aside from the soda can silencer. In the Spec Ops preorder pack they said that the Sloani mask is exclusive to Security, but they did not say anything else is.

Here is what they said on Psycho: The Psycho Pack, when you pre-order through Amazon.com or Direct2Drive, contains:
? Exclusive weapon: the “Caesar” Revolver
? New attachments: The Resistance’s improved Soda Can Silencer and Security’s ArkTactical Silencer
? Exclusive Resistance “The Grin” Combat Mask
? Unique “Tortured Soul” body tattoo

Here is what they said on the Spec Ops pack:

The Spec Ops Pack, available when you pre-order through Walmart or Steam, contains:
? Exclusive weapon: the “Hockler” Machine-Pistol
? Exclusive “GreenEye” Combat Optical Scope
? Exclusive Security “Sloani” Combat Mask
? Unique Dogtag body tattoo


When something is specific to a faction they generally mention it. Yet there is no mention of the Hockler or the Caeser being faction specific.

I don't think it's too far-fetched to assume that the Caesar revolver and the Hockler MP are exclusive to the Resistance and Security factions, respectively. I think SD is assuming that most player s will play as both sides, so even if they have a preference, they'll use the items from those particular pre-order packs anyway. I sort of look at the Spec-ops pack as the balance of the Psycho pack.

Currently waiting to see if we get a demo, but with the PC bonus now missing from Amazon I am undecided.

I almost wondering if they are redoing the preorder bonuses since they only reference Gamestop and I swear they used to show all 4 options on a single image. I am also curious to see if we can use multiple preorder bonuses on the same account.

The Resistance are always using old rusty runs in Brink, the Security are always using brand new ones.

The Caesar is a rusty gun, and there is no other skin shown for it. It would look really out of place for a security player to be carrying it. Same for a resistance player carrying the Hockler. If there are not two skins, then I really doubt both sides can use it.

At the same time, the two sides are identical when it comes to gameplay. So if its an actual new gun, I really doubt that only one side can use it.

Make your own conclusion from the facts, but from what I see right now, I'm expecting a weapon skin.

And when there's another version/skin, they show it. That defense works for your case and mine, but there's still no evidence of there being a Security version.

Well, this whole debate has managed to detract me from the Spec Ops and the Psycho packs, thank you for helping me with my decision. Fallout pack ftw! :intergalactic:

There isn't anything exclusive in the Fallout pack except skins, so if that's all you're aiming for, cheers.

Sporting the spec ops pack!