Gave one to my now girlfriend when we first time we met, we've been toghter since!
Or read my second post=P

West Coast by far. Midwest is too authoritarian for my tastes. The Brotherhood has no business governing outsiders.

Capital Wasteland are just uninteresting frankly. If I'm going to join the Brotherhood I'd like to join the actual Brotherhood with all their flaws not some white knights whose only real connection is the name. Also I don't think I ever could say "Steel be with you" with a straight face.

Agrred. :foodndrink:

Capital Wasteland. Besides the super mutants (which are limited in number), all they have to worry about are raiders, which are as threatening as a thrown bottle of mint jelly to someone wearing power armor and that also has (probable future) vertibird support and robots.

I voted Capitol BOS because they seem the best well off right now. They beat the enclave and know where the supies come from, and are getting tech from the crawler. Plus when they finish rebuilding Liberty they be damn near unstopable.

Could someone explain to me what's so damn-diddily brilliant about 'true' Brotherhood ideology?

In the early days it made sense. To keep weapons tech out of the hands of people for they may miss use it. They still traded with people but never let them join. Seeing as how they were so superior to the other factions (Enlave not included) they saw no need to bring in others.

New Vegas has shown use that this way of thinking has not stopped people from gettting weapons and they are no longer the most superior faction around. The Mojave chapter is slowly dying out and its possible that the main BoS back in California is as well. Their need to get tech as made enemies of pretty much everyone.

Others like the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtXhuaTcohY were the first to want change and they were sent on a mission many knew would end in disaster for their troubles. They ended up creating the MWBoS. The only BoS to let in mutations

Then there is Lyons, like the MWBoS but not as "fascist."

Anyways.. to sum up. Their ideology was good in the dark years after the great war but in the end will cause their down fall unless they change.

http://whywontyoujustdie.ytmnd.com/

(And their is not people out there who would still not misuse it? Not to say your wrong, or that they do not need to change, I agree on your points( well, maybe except the CWBoS one, but that is another discussion we can have later), And i know they have to change most definitely, But there is room for change, while keeping their original mission, because at least IMHO, their is still too many people out there who would sooner try to use a cache of Energy weapons to carve out a empire than use them for peaceful purposes, and i would rather see them in the BoS hands than anyone else at the moment.

Edit: and i would want to join the CWBoS, right now as of 2281, i think they are in the strongest position of all at the moment.)

People can still like the Original BoS. If MBoS was not an option I would go with them and complain about there not being a MWBoS option

In away Lyons is keeping weapons out of the hands of those that may miss use it. I agree on that point but that is only because Lyons found himself in a part of the wastaland that has not changed one bit in over 200 years. Still a debate about the CWBoS and their differences with the others can wait because this is not the right topic :foodndrink:

CWBoS FTW. All you need to know. Besides after broken steel they have a [censored] ton of loot from the enclave base and vertibirds too. The only real dangers are talon company and and the outcasts, who'll rejoin to get a share of the tech and then jump off the band wagon again with the new tech. Really after Prime is rebuilt, Talon Company is going to be [censored] over when he gets them before the LW. Hopefully though maybe Lyons can actually make a CW version of the NCR which i think was a topic in this forum.

True they are certain to gave a lot of power now but by the next game I hope they either stop being white knights or stop calling themselves the BoS.

I agree with this. If they do come back in a future game, or if they're alluded to in the future, i hope that they change their name. It's all well and good to have a "gray" BoS in the West when there are more organized factions but without a "nice" BoS in DC the whole situation there is pretty bleak. I'd like to see the DC branch maybe organize the region into a serious nation/faction, with citizens and laws, and stop this BoS farce.

That said I voted for the CWBS because they offer the best route for humanity as a whole, and that cannot be denied. I just voted based on what I'd choose if all of this was irl. I find that the other branches are more interesting in that they have more depth to them, less of an obvious choice for "the best" - and its things like that which I love so much about Fallout: those gray areas.

I like this.

I think it'd be really cool if in the next game in the CW they should be a nation called The Capital and when you see guys in Power Armor they are just called Capital Soliders. Elder Lyons or Sarah Lyons should be the president at the time.

And a legal system known as Capital Punishment?

Well I think it's a capital idea.

I still want them to be called the BoS, but the white knights need to stop. Most likely Elder Lyons will die, weather it is outcast attack, or old age. I assume Protector Casdin will visit the Citadel and take over, if this happens I sure hope all the BoS PA is painted like the Outcast, and they turn into something like the MWBoS Barnaky Ending. That would be pretty sweet. Turn the D.C. ruins like the Pitt or something with super mutant slaves, like the Behemoths could be used to haul heavy loads for construction or what not. It would be an amazing come back to Fallout 3 in my opinion.

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I like this.

I think it'd be really cool if in the next game in the CW they should be a nation called The Capital and when you see guys in Power Armor they are just called Capital Soliders. Elder Lyons or Sarah Lyons should be the president at the time.
Not everyone can have power armor. They can have a power armor corps like the US army or a special ops unit. Lyons should definitely be the president, and they could take over Pennsylvania, maryland and the rest of DC. The pitt could be the factory place to make combat armor and armor, point lookout could be a agricultural place.

We might want to move it to another topic though if we continue the Capitol idea.

What may be interesting is, if the DCBoS did form some sort of nation and then the Outcasts are either forced out or they leave on their own accord. They then then maybe go north, take advantage of unknown advanced tech from the Institute in the Commonwealth to ultimately return to the DC area and present a serious, and truely BoS, threat to the new Capital faction.

Idk, just brainstorming

I would join Comrade Elder Lyons and introduce him to the concepts of socialist goverment and planned economy.
If there ever was a time, its now.

Ok I'll make one.

I lol'd

Topic about The Capital faction/game idea. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1174239-the-capital/page__pid__17337598#entry17337598

The Mid-Western BOS is the only “democratic” organization amongst the bunch, and that’s being overly generous.

The Western BOS is ruled as a rather deranged almost feudal state, whose sole goal is to hoard technology and generally act in a self-preservationist manner, which is generally detrimental to the Core region at large.

The Eastern BOS is ruled by a charismatic megalomaniac, who wants to bring his version of “peace and order” to the East Coast, though rather than being a beacon of hope, he instead is simply a tin pot dictator, who masks himself with a velvet glove.

The Outcasts, are simply cut from the same cloth as the Western BOS.