Capital wastes, the western groups are simply raiders in disguise.

The mw are way better than the cw mw have awsome power armor

West Coast BoS, Mojave Chapter and Outcasts are just power-armored fanatics and sociopaths that would rather see what few bastions of order have clawed their way up from the ashes be destroyed and consumed by slavers and raiders than tolerate anything that endangers their precious technological superiority. They're glorified raiders and nothing more. Their war with the NCR was completely unjustified and unprovoked, cost thousands of lives and nearly broke the only nation in the west, which would have thrown the entire region back into barbarism. I'm glad the Western BoS was broken by the NCR's resolve. For Veronica I didn't grind the Mojave BoS under my heel, but I sure as hell didn't help them much. They can stay in their dammed bunker until they get as inbred as Point Lookout for all I care of them. When (if) they emerge, they're find a united West under the watchful protection of the Bear, and if they so much as breathe wrong, they're meat.

The Midwest? I'll admit to not knowing much of them, save that while they are indeed fighting for everyone under their wing, they are a bit too iron-handed for my tastes. I've done some reading, and I like them. Really, if the Capital Wasteland BoS expands, I'd rather see the Midwest be their foil than the West. Both are working for the betterment of everyone, but the Capital Wasteland is more idealistic about it, and that's fine. Contact between East and Midwest BoS could only really be a good thing for both. A storyline where they meet could start out tense, and I can easily see it settling into a friendly rivalry.

That said, it's the Capital Wasteland BoS for me. They're the first BoS faction I've played with that is actually using it's talents and power for the good of all. No matter the reasons it's leadership may hold, they're Knights and Paladins are dammed well making a difference, and a good one, for the whole region.

People in and around DC know that when they see Brotherhood troops, they're safe. CWBoS may not be perfect saints, but who is?

If one has the power to make even a small difference, the responsibilities of that power demand they do so. For that reason the Midwest and Eastern BoS can rightfully be heralded as heroes, and the Western BoS chapters are nothing but a contemptible waste.

I voted Capitol Wasteland.

They are more fair.

The Outcasts are honest about being jerks. But I would not join them.

And the others I do not know.

CWBOS: Solely because I like the Hero figures, it's nice to see SOME light in all that green and brown. =p

not if you met them through veronica.

yes but the fact they would do that to someone not accompanied by one of their own. If you are alone they will put a bomb around your neck and ask you to deal with someone.

Also that Brotherhood pledge you have been posting is not canon.

Somewhere along the way it got twisted. In the original bos pledge it says nothing about hoarding pre war tech and not caring about anyone but themselves. Its totally oposite of what like the outcasts say. You d have to ask some old guard when they went against the original pledge. Lyons bos follows it. Thats why they thrive.

There is no brotherhood pledge. What you have been quoting is not canon. It was cut from the game and it contradicts the Fallout timeline.

I went Lyons bos, because I came up in fo3. After being lost in the metros for like 4 fallout days I was low on supplies my guns were about to break I was still a low level. When I came out of the metro where i was supposed to and saw thosd sm I really didn t know if I could take them. Then when bos slapped them and I saw lazer rifles for the fist time and pa for the first time I was in love. They may have saved my video game guy s life. As nice as they all were and the troubles they faced I just loved them. Plus they r the only chapter that even the old guard know of that r set to expand. The "we ll wait to see what s canon" crap for the other chapters is stupid. They give you multiple endings then leave it up to writers to pick what one really happened dumb. Fo3 we know what happened. Bethesda didn t give 27 endings so they could steal 26 from you. They gave you 1 and a half endings (fev). Lyons bos r heros to those people and to people outside the map that heard about them.

They gave multiple because there is multiple ways to play the game. It gives more replayability. Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics all have multiple endings. Bethesda gave us two endings Good or Evil because they svck at writing and black and white is all the know. Its not stealing endings from us. Fallout is not Mass Effect or Elder scrolls. One ending will become canon and it would most likely be the good ending. The over all "NCR won" ending but the little details can change.

Multiple endings give us something to go by for the next game. Something to talk about and debate about. Without them, everything becomes pointless speculation with no evidence to support anything.

Well im sorry but I won t waste my time debating what u did in you endings or what I did in my endings just to have awriter decide for us. Why did I waste my time if what I did didn t happen??? dumb IMO. Also I have way more play time and characters in 3 than nv. As soon as i m done with my Ceaser guy "Dahmer Bundy" I m done with nv besides dlc. fo3 2400hrs 5 characters, because it was fun. NV 3 characters 460 hrs, because sand and more sand 27 endings and l still couldn t get the one I want, and they will steal 26. How can we debate what we did but we have no control over in the long run???? Most people would think that NCR and House working together would be best, but I tried for that and don t think it can happen. Then I tried yes man so house robots back up NCR but no he runs Houses program and I can t tell him not to. Obsidian did a great job writing for 3/4 of the game then pissed the ending thing down their leg. IMO Why did we even do the stuff if it didn t really happen?????

svcks that you don't find any meaning or get a sense of accomplishment from seeing how different actions have different effects. I like seeing the consequences of my actions. I like the writing and enjoy the different stories. I also like how it gives us something to go by, something to debate about. Gives us a foundation on which to debate. Gives Forums like this meaning. Without the endings eveything anyone says is pointless speculation.

Anyways, going off topic. Agree to disagree I guess.

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But found it in fo bible Bethesda says its canon. Might be why Lyons bos follows it.

This is what you have been posting right. "We will become self-sufficient. We will become keepers of knowledge and lore. We will survive the end of civilization. We will take responsibility for our actions, and we will hold accountable the actions of others."

If so its not canon. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_honor_code "

Did anyone in Fallout 3 say those words?

No I like cause and effect, but that is crazy. The endings are not debate able. What you did is done what I did is done. We cant debate that. We can debate stuff no one knows like Enclave in remote sections of the worid, because niether of us know. Now our games we know. I m not going to say you didn t do something in your game. Then I d be calling you a lier. I wouldn t even question why u did things in your game, because you did them to see what would happen. What makes me get all ocd is the writers will just pick it for us. I hope we don t go back there ever. If we do I ll still buy it,but I won t be happy. Too many drastically different endings.

No I went to fallout bible vol 3 I belive. Wiki would be least canon in my eyes because who gave them the right to change anything. They r info keepers not story tellers.

You are not getting the point. Its not debating, "if I did something or you did something". Its debating what happens if you do. If people want the next game in the west to be based on the Legion winning. We know what happens if the Legion wins in the Mojave. If people want to see Mr.House still alive in the next game. We know what happens if Mr.House takes control of New Vegas. We know what happens if such and such happened because the endings show us. We can debate the outcomes. Gives us a frame work to go on.

Debating about whether or not the Enclave have world bases is not much of a debate.You can debate it if you want to completely ingore three Fallout games worth of canon and ingore logic completely.

Every Fallout but for Fallout 3 had multiple endings. The little details can change. The over all point of the ending becomes canon ie "NCR won."

But anyways, we have gone off topic. So we should stop.

Sure Styles if you get to thier place and know their password they get a little hostile, but they have a right to be defensive. They didn t ask u to kill the guy. I guess u could but I didnt. They are actually happy u didn t kill him. They are the only ones that don t ask u to kill someone for them lol even when they have you in a slave collar . I thought about killing them until I saw how harmless the whole thing was. I was going to hang out by the elder and use him as a human shield and they better not pop the collar because it could harm the elder.lol No need for that though they were just testing me. Then the courior got a chance to work with the legendary bos.

Outcasts get no love? But they painted their armor cool!

Honestly none but If was born into it then I'd wanna be in the Mid-west BOS cause the Mojave chapter got beat up by the NCR then got blown up by me in 2 of my three playthroughs. The west coast is supposed to be in retreat or weakened or something. And the D.C chapter is to goody-two shoes for me

I would definitely join Lyons...because they actually care about people...

But they shouldn't... Cuz it's a wasteland they should be sticking out for their selves and the long term goal for humanity