Which BoS?

Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:12 pm

The only answer we've been given on "when does Fallout 4 take place" is "200 years" after the bombs fall. Which is most likely an approximation, since Bethesda historically has always wanted to move forward on the timeline (to the point where they asked Obsidian to put New Vegas after 3, instead of before). I don't think people should take the 200 years line that literally and start acting like it's a fact.

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jessica Villacis
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:29 am


I agree; the idea of Fallout 4 being only slightly later in the timeline doesn't make sense if it's the Eastern Brotherhood (and it probably is). As I recall, the Brotherhood was teetering before the assault on the purifier, and it would take a lot of time to recover from the casualties incurred there, not to mention the attack on Adams AFB.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:43 am

https://twitter.com/dcdeacon/status/616721092963512320

Anton quoted "200." Pete affirmed it.

You guy can chalk it up to smoke and mirrors/PR deception, but I doubt they would be that under wraps with a start date.

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Amiee Kent
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:23 am

if this end been true about 200 years, then there is no way that Lions Brotherhood is the one on Boston.

but for some reason i though Fallout 4 happen some years after Fallout 3 =( but i miss hear that probabbly

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James Shaw
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:35 pm

Yeah, it's probably the Midwest, then. After all, all the Brotherhood characters we've seen have been down the sights of the Sole Survivor's weapons. I can't imagine Lyons leading the Brotherhood against non-slaver civilians.

But what if it's the Outcasts? What if they took advantage of the Lyons faction's momentary weakness to retake the Citadel, and the Maxxson heritage with it. Would explain the Arthurian airship.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:53 pm


Quakecon/gamescom confirms brotherhood can be allies, so its more a choice on the player.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:50 pm

Well, according to FNV BoS, war between the EC BoS and the Outcasts had escalated tremendously. So, by 2281 it's safe to say they were still locked in civil war with the EC BoS. Not sure they would be focused on expanding to other places by Airship when they're in the midst of war, and they aren't donning their iconic black/red power armor with the new symbol.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:08 pm


If they won, they wouldn't be Outcasts anymore; they'd just be Brotherhood.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:11 pm

I think the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Airship is a giveaway.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:22 pm

Uhh no.

All they say about Lyons in NV is that they had a small civil war.... which was the outcasts leaving and taking a hwole bunch of tech, and generally being hostile to Lyons.

Airships built by the West Coast BoS, for West Coast BoS members, who later founded their own order. Airship building is knowledge all BoS chapters have, not just the Midwest.

And actually, the Midwst BoS is never seen using airships at all after becoming the Midwest BoS.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:19 pm

I'd rather they don't migrate the Midwestern Brotherhood to Boston just for the sake of having airships. I'd rather see them get their due in a game set in Chicago.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:11 pm

well it will be hard to guess till the game come out, but if is ther Midwest one it will be cool to learn what the brotherhood been up there, maybe they got thier asses kick from Chicago by the Ligion.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:29 pm

Legion doesn't reach Chicago, their eastern most borders are in Denver Colorado.

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Charlie Sarson
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:59 am

You are over thinking it. You should only consider the 'elevator pitch' version.

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Jerry Cox
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:02 am

No, I will not ignore how reality works just because it doesn't suit your narrative.

One should consider everything, always.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:00 am

Who said that entire F4 "main" game will take place in the same year? Maybe You emerge from the vault in 2277 (no Eastern BoS around), and then due to some events you awake several years later, like 2282 (And Eastern Bos is all over the place)?

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:59 pm

I was really hoping Chicago and the outside would be the setting of this title. Feature the MWBOS primarily. The Enclave outposts could also have played a smaller part.

Perhaps within the next 8-12 years when Fallout 5 releases :P
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:04 pm

Most probably since they are are the closest BOS faction to Boston.

Second most likely choice, I'm still holding out a hope for the MWBOS and Lyons' BOS fighting over the Institute tech.

Least likely in my opinion since why not use the MWBOS since Bethesda has already made their existence lore. This could be an explanation as to why they not around when Lyons crosses their territory, they could have been moving (north) east themselves.

Since they are totally non canon, highly unlikely

I actually never completed a House playthrough because he insisted on the BOS being exterminated, having nuked their bunker in a pro Caeser playthrough, I wasn't willing to do it again.

I did steal all their stuff though.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:55 pm

Hmm. I am curious as to why Lyons' failed to make contact with the MWBoS.
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:47 pm

Because the MwBoS doesn't like the west coast BoS, and Lyons, at the time, was part of the WCBoS.

They likely just told him to go [censored] off and that they were going to refuse to speak to him.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:56 am

They apparently couldn't find any sign of them, which is strange in itself.

Althrough that could be simply because they ignored all attempts to communicate when Lyons' expedition headed through the area.....part of Lyons' mission was to return the MWBOS to the fold, so I'd assume he at least looked around a bit.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:51 pm

I'm not talking about reality; I'm talking about Bethesda. ;)

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:26 am

The point is which chapter is the most likely to use airship technology. MwBoS were the guys with direct access to husks and wrecks from which they could easily (relative to the other chapter's abilities) assemble a new airship.

Not a single BoS chapter is seen using airship technology after the exodus in general. We just know that based on the start date, the Lyons' brotherhood motive/direction (Liberty Prime), and the vegetative state of the WC BoS, that the MwBoS, the chapter that has been relatively murky and mysterious after the events of the tactics, are the most likely contender.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:24 am

You mean the people who followed the lore so well even Tim Cain commented on it, with his singular complaint about it being a stretch, and not an outright lore break, that FEV was on the east coast?

Yeah, thinking about things like that is totally not something Beth would do.... /sarcasm.

NV discounts that idea by portraying the MWBoS as being utterly unable to do anything to counter the march of the Legion, even though the Legion controls the area around the MWBoS's base, and have so for years.

The idea that THEY of all people got a massive army and airships to march on Boston is even less likely then that of Lyons doing so.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:37 pm

I mean that ever since they got the IP, they have taken the 'elevator pitch' interpretation of anything related to it. I assume this is for marketability reasons; to make the setting more accessible... and so that's why I said that you are over thinking it. That's why I do think it's the Mid Western BOS ~with the [history of the] airship. :shrug:

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