So, guys, having devoured all available videos and official press releases, I can say without any doubt that I will, despite my current level of hype (frenzied), be blown away by Fallout 4. I only have one question:

Which Brotherhood will we meet?

Will it be the outgoing but battle-hardened East Coast, led by Elder or Sarah Lyons?

Will it be the militaristic and mildly despotic Midwestern Brotherhood?

Will it be the isolationist West Coast, set forth on a new expedition to find Old World Tech?

Could it even be the drawling, spitting, mutant burning Texas faction?

Who will it be? Who do you think it'll be? How do you feel about the Brotherhood in general?

For me, deciding whether or not to exterminate the Brotherhood in New Vegas was the most difficult choice in the game, after spending the third act of Fallout 3 as a Knight. Eventually, I realized that these were not the same kind of men and women I was used to fighting alongside, and saw that they would be a military threat after the Battle of the Dam, so I made the hard choice. But I still feel some guilt, because I know some of them knew or might even be related to my East Coast brethren.

But again... What about the rest of you?

Consider the Arthurian reference with the airship, Im guessing east coast, that or Beth gonna pull something out of left field and its neither of the known brotherhood cells.

I hope it's not the Chicago chapter. I never played Tactics and do not want to be out.

looking how this brotherhood have a fly ship, probabbly is a chapter from the west coast. im really hoping they have a huge quest line, i mean looking how the brotherhood is and how the whole boston area is full with tec.

So long as they are not the "good guy" white-knights of Fallout 3.

Lyon's BoS had a good concept but the way it was presented was very white vs black. They can have good intentions but I would prefer a more amoral or grey BoS.

My personal favorite chapter is the Midwestern one though.

Midwest. They were the only chapter with access to airship wrecks. With androids running about, I imagine that their jimmies would get rustled because they don't want another calculator epidemic.

Why couldn't the West Coast BoS build airships... you know, like they did the first time?

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or like i said west, bc the Midwest brotherhood come from the west, they where the one sending the fly ships first. It will all depend on how the time is set related to Fallout NV, i could be that this brotherhood is the one running from NCR after they defeat

More than likely its the East Coast. The ships name is Prydwen, King Arthur's ship name in Arthurian legend.

Arthur Maxson was always a King Arthur stand-in, so its pretty clear its probably going to be Lyon's BOS. Which is perhaps now controlled by Arthur.

Either that or Bethesda introduced some Arthurian elements to the Midwestern Brotherhood for no [censored] reason. Which would tick me off to no end.

The MwBoS did have the "grail squad" led by Lancelot if you recall.

The West Coast Brotherhood didn't have Vertibirds, as I recall. East Coast did, though.

Ugh. Yeah, I'd forgotten about that.

Still that's more of an easter-egg reference I'd say. Its not like the Midwest has a literal round table in the center of their "Great Hall."

I'd still place my bets on Lyons. Its the closet chapter geographically too.

Edit: And as joker said, Vertibirds.

Agreed.

Don't forget though.

There are Enclave outposts in Chicago, meaning the MwBoS COULD have possibly gotten vertibirds from them.

Just a possibility, though I do still think its Lyons.

I don't think Bethesda would name the last Maxson heir in 3 Arthur, and then find some other Arthurian figure to pilot the Prydwen. Maybe it's our boy Maxson trying to prove himself by taking control of the Institute.

I really highly doubt the Enclave presence in Chicago is large enough to warrant the fleet of vertibirds that the BOS in Fallout 4 apparently have.

10 to 1 IMO its Lyons. I'd be willing to place money on it too.

Maybe, but this IS The Enclave we are talking about here. They have stockpiles of [censored] all over the nation.

But yeah, its 99% most likely Lyons.

I think they will be doing a "shades of Tactics" storyline myself. After Broken Steel's MQ ends, you can ask Sarah what the BoS plans to do next, and she says her father is saying pushing the super mutants out of D.C. once and for all is their next great task. I suspect with the troops they get from the Project Purity PR stunt, and all the power armor and advanced weaponry they get from The Enclave's base at Adams, they will achieve this fairly easily, and the super mutants, realizing they have been beat, try to flee north away from the BoS.

Lyons, Sarah, or Arthur, whoever is in charge, not wanting to let anyone else suffer from that menace, ends up going north, chasing the fleeing mutant horde via airship, eventually coming to Boston where thier simple mission of extermination gets complicated as something forces them into ocnflict with The Institute.

Would it be too farfetched to suggest that it could be both the Midwestern and Lyons’ Brotherhood? And that they are in conflict for control of the area?

that will be cool, MAN ALL THIS TALK jUST MAKE ME WANT TO PLAY IT NOW, T.T 2 months to go =( i cant wait

Indeed, Dran.

GIVE IT TO ME NOWWWW!!!

During the time of NV, Caesar has controlled the area around Denver for years.

The MwBoS's main base of operations, Vault 0, is in Cheyenne Mountain, located only 80 miles south of Denver...... which is also in Legion controlled lands.

Caesar only mentions capturing BoS scribes on his eastern border, and makes no mention of them putting up any sort of military assault against him. If the MwBoS can't even attempt to fight the Legion around their main HQ, it seems unlikely they would be able to project that much power in the Boston area.

Arthur had a fixation on violence, guns, and killing Super Mutants. He also had feelings for Sarah because she showed him how to kill someone by striking their kidney.

If he took the reigns of Lyon's BoS and is involved in Boston then it could be very interesting.

I agree that it's probably East Coast. The real question in that case is how long it's been since FO3.

The WC Brotherhood that began that expedition 50 some years ago is a shadow of their prominent past. The first major airship exodus was an utter disaster, and probably why Lyons' group decided to walk instead of fly.

With a 2277 start date, it puts it slightly after Fo3, and 4 years before FNV.

Source for the start date?

Good point. Do we know how the Outcast Brotherhood factors into things? I remember Veronica mentioned a 'civil war' in her dialogue about Brotherhood conflicts, but I don't remember mentioning how it was resolved, or at all.