Which Faction Do You Think Has The Strongest Army?

Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:41 am

Brotherhood if they had numbers, i hate to say it but i think Caesar's Legion would win against NCR if they threw down without the Couriers interference. They have better training and Legate Lanius is a better commander than General Oliver so yeah...Mr.House would be out of the question because like i said earlier, no Courier.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:44 pm

I agree, putting star wars reference in a fallout game is just getting worst and worst by the days. It was funny at first, I agree, but you don't see me spraying out Zerg lore out from me into this site, otherwise, I would make alot of people very mad, sad, and irritated.

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Amy Gibson
 
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:22 am

If you upgrade the Securitrons, then New Vegas has the strongest army. There's an army's worth of Securitrons at Mr. House's/your command. They don't need training, food, water, or anything other than regular maintenance and electricity. Not to mention they don't shed blood meaning the concept of morale of the troops is out the window for them, also that fear is absent.

If House orders 300 Securitrons to march upon a heavily guarded fortress with no regard for loss, they'd do it and win. Why? They have missiles, SMG, Gatling Laser, and Grenade Launcher all in one package per Securitron. No human can switch between those weapons very effectively. Oh and the biggest problem for an opponent army. Securitrons can go day and night. So long as repairs and reinforcements are available, Securitron assaults can go for 24 hours, 7 days a week while human assaults have to rest.

So yeah...New Vegas can defend itself almost indefinitely from any attackers so long as the Securitron army is well kept.

Unless they have emp or a flight of stairs :rolleyes:
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:59 am

Ceaser's Legion....but they lack a good commander that sees the "Checkmate" move.

They can win the war with the NCR without attacking Hoover Dam. There is no sizable NCR force between Cottenwood Cove and Mojave outpost that anchors the NCR's only supply line into the area. If CL ever attacked and held onto that outpost the entire NCR army in the Mojave is screwed if they do nothing. The only option open to the NCR at this point is withdrawing forces and try to break out back west.
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Amy Masters
 
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:16 pm

Lol without your help to the NCR the legion would have win before the battle for hoover dam was fought. (Well if it wasn't a game)
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:29 am

Lol and if you put in the fiends, you can as well give us the choice to choose for the Vipers Gang and The Kings.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:59 am

That's stationed in the Mojave? The Legion.
Overall? The New California Republic


This one!
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:35 am

Neither are greasy-haired hipsters with a habit of saying "Ring-a-ding-ding!" :P
Remember Benny's attempt to infiltrate the Legion?


Still, my money's on the Securitrons. Vegas' military can't be demoralized, they can't be weakened by cutting off trade lines (they don't need food), they can be absolutely relentless with no worry of fatigue or needing sleep and they can be rebuilt and repaired. You'd need a LOT of impulse weaponry or expert snipers to even leave a dent in the army. With self-repairing Securitrons, all Mr. House has to do is send them in waves and have program them so the damaged ones fall back so that they have time to repair before sending them to the front lines again. Wave of securitrons, 6 missles fired by each, reload or fall back if damaged, rinse and repeat. Healing a human on the other hand, doesn't run like clockwork. The human can't be told exactly when he needs to back off, he needs an escort off the battlefield and his wounds may never heal.

And what's all this about "the NCR can build up and research a way to beat the Securitrons." And Mr. House can't? Is it just me or did Mr. House not seem like the biggest freaking genius in the entire game, and you think a society that's just now recovering old world technology (farming, power plants, vehicles) is going to out-tech a genius who founded RobCo, warded off atomic bombs and survived the Great War?


The problem with Securitrons is that they're big and clunky. They'll be vulnerable to artillery fire. They'll also have trouble dealing with mines and difficult terrain.

Ceaser's Legion....but they lack a good commander that sees the "Checkmate" move.

They can win the war with the NCR without attacking Hoover Dam. There is no sizable NCR force between Cottenwood Cove and Mojave outpost that anchors the NCR's only supply line into the area. If CL ever attacked and held onto that outpost the entire NCR army in the Mojave is screwed if they do nothing. The only option open to the NCR at this point is withdrawing forces and try to break out back west.


But the Legion doesn't have a direct route from Cottonwood to the Mojave outpost. The Searchlight area and the Old Nuclear Testing Site are pretty close together so they have to go around the entire area to make sure they don't get exposed to radiation. They have to go around Powder Ganger territory and there are Ranger stations along the way.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:05 am

Pre- Bitter springs massacre the Great khans had the biggest army, now id say its the NCR.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:13 pm

Pre- Bitter springs massacre the Great khans had the biggest army, now id say its the NCR.

NCR Always had the largest army.
I'd say Caesars Legion is a close second.
Don't think the great khans had a 'big' army.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:34 pm

Pre- Bitter springs massacre the Great khans had the biggest army, now id say its the NCR.

Bitter Springs was primarily non-combatants, hence why it's seen as a bad thing. I doubt it impacted the size of their 'army' much.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:13 pm

CL, they are the most devoted and best physically.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:49 pm

You forgot that Vegas has more then secuitrons they also have the White Gloves Society, the Omertas, and the Chairman.

Actually, the Omertas and the White Glove Society would be a part of Caesar's Legion.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:01 am

Actually, the Omertas and the White Glove Society would be a part of Caesar's Legion.


Omertas yes, White Glove Society maybe, I don't think we even hear if they betray House or not.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:24 pm

You forgot that Vegas has more then secuitrons they also have the White Gloves Society, the Omertas, and the Chairman.


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No, the Omertas was working with CL and was going to do a all out assulllt on the strip!

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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:53 pm

Spoiler


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No, the Omertas was working with CL and was going to do a all out assulllt on the strip!



Yes I know I was pretty tired when I wrote that.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:30 am

Omertas yes, White Glove Society maybe, I don't think we even hear if they betray House or not.

Well, you can't count them among the Legion or the Vegas Strip, leaving House with only the Chairmen and his vast army of death-bringing robots.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:29 pm

The Three families are probably more lore-worthy warriors than gameplay. I'm sure people would complain if they were going up against the equivalent of Legion veterans after being stripped of their gear.
Lore-wise, the Three Families were able to defeat the Great Khans, who, while not the best warriors in the world, are pretty damn decent. A Great Khan could at least take out an NCR trooper.

Well it may be true that "A" Great Khan can take out "A" NCR trooper with ease, the NCR has displayed on more than one occasion that they use numbers to defeat their enemies. The Khans have already suffered a major defeat vs NCR.

I do not believe any of the 3 families are any better in lore than you see in game. House mkl securitrons, and the three families were needed to make the Khans retreat.

The 3 families are just petty raiders that have been converted by House. Two of the 3 families have already shown disloyalty to House anyway.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:49 am

You forgot that Vegas has more then secuitrons they also have the White Gloves Society, the Omertas, and the Chairman.

Except the omertas and whitegloves side with caesar
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:07 am

I'd have to say the NCR. In New Vegas all we see of them is their lowly new recruits who they just had to recruit, and rangers who are really tough. There are some normal soldiers, but not too many. And I would like to point out to those who are like NO NCR IS BAD! That their army would be stronger if it wasn't for the divide destroying their supply lines, so they cannot get the best their army has to offer over with ease causing some to die. If all the NCR troopers in the world floated on over to New Vegas, they would definately be the stongest.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:52 am

@ Longknife A huge series of events by the character must unfold to give House the ability to control his securitrons at long distance. Victor, and all the ones he has lost at hidden valley are proof of that.

The courior is the only one that can make Vegas have a strong army.

I look at this question as an "as they stand" question. Out of all of then Vegas is one of the weakest. Their walls, the Kings numbers, and mkl are what Vegas has.

House may be a tech genious, but it remains to be seen if he is a genius in other areas. After all, he leaves his password in his PC so you can easily kill him, and does not understand that NCR is all that has kept his little city from being crushed by cl.

Securitrons are great for defense, but on the offensive they have many disadvantages. They run on a single wheel. That will not prove very effective in the mw. They can t even get to many places humans can attack them from. AMRs will be devastating to those big metal boxes that ride around on one wheel.
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Post » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:43 am

I'd have to say the NCR. In New Vegas all we see of them is their lowly new recruits who they just had to recruit, and rangers who are really tough. There are some normal soldiers, but not too many. And I would like to point out to those who are like NO NCR IS BAD! That their army would be stronger if it wasn't for the divide destroying their supply lines, so they cannot get the best their army has to offer over with ease causing some to die. If all the NCR troopers in the world floated on over to New Vegas, they would definately be the stongest.

That does not make any sense at all. We do not know for sure if a war is still waging over with the W Brotherhood. To have all there troops to storm the Mojave would end up destroying themselves. It's simple does not make sense. That’s how a part war will always be, cut the enemy supplies and gain the advantage.
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