which mod alters the ex_nord_03

Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:57 pm

i just tested a new mod that changes the appearance of pelagiad (i hope basswalker will release unique pelagiad soon) but i don't get the altered nord_house_03.

i updated widows glow already and the house is shown correctly if i look at all those loaded mods (wglow, abots wglow, unique cities). but some *&%§$!!-mod alters the house back, so it is not shown correctly in the game. which mod is it? do you know one that alters this &%$§?)!!!-house?

i use wrye and mlox so i hope the list should be okay the way it is. argh.

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001 Morrowind.esm
002 Tribunal.esm
003 Bloodmoon.esm
004 Orden der Ehre.esm (Version 3.3)
005 Kinder von Morrowind.esm
006 Texture Fix 1.8.esm
007 Hilgya die N?herin Complete.esm
008 MCA.esm
009 billyro_sixy_wolf_armour.ESP altered
010 Vampire_Embrace DV.esp
011 Vampire Realism II DV.esp (Version 2.2)
012 Vampire Realism II - VE DV.esp
013 Vampire_individuell_DV.esp
014 Vampire_individuell_VRII_Patch.esp
015 Vampire_Embrace_DV_Dialogkorrektur.esp
016 Werewolfrealism_Moon_Only_DV.esp
017 SG_werewolfclans_DVC.esp
018 Werewolf_Evolution_DV.esp (Version 1.0)
019 Werewolf_at_Will_DV.esp
020 Vampire_Werewolf.esp (Version 1.2)
021 Werevampire_realism_moononly_patch.esp
022 DremoraArmorDrop_1211.esp
023 Windows Glow.esp altered
024 Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
025 Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
026 ULS Solstheim V 2.0.esp
027 B_Whitewolf_1_0_DV(1.0).esp
028 abotWindowsGlow.esp (Version 1.0)
029 Bloated Morrowind_DV.esp
030 World_Of_Faces.esp
031 Buchrotieren-V4.3- Tribunal+ Bloodmoon.esp
032 Better Bodies.esp
033 Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
034 Grave Goods.esp
035 Korana's Closet.esp
036 Sils_Long_Hair_Mod_v1.0.esp
037 The regulars - Sitting NPC's v1.02_DV.esp
038 DV Calis Tight Dresses.esp
039 Banicheads DElf_M01.esp
040 Galith_v1.0.esp
041 House of Mannequins v1.1d DV.esp
042 Cleaned PlayableFacesPack v. 2.esp
043 Bloodrayne Dress_1C.esp
044 Bloodmoon Improved 0.2.esp
045 Scripted_Spells_1.5_DV.esp
046 Clean Just Face It v2.0.esp
047 TribunalImproved.esp (Version 0.5)
048 Healing.esp
049 DV Clean BadKarma Clothing Vendor.esp
050 LOCH_Master_Head_Pack_.esp
051 DW_assassination_VE.esp
052 CM_Partners_2.7_DV.esp
053 Museums-Erweiterung_TB.esp
054 Armigers At Ghostgate.esp
055 Clean _SR_KA_facepack.esp
056 Divine Domina.esp
057 Clean _SR_KA_facepack2.esp
058 NI_desks.ESP
059 Clean ocean.esp
060 ocean1f.esp
061 Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp
062 BT_WWLokpatch1.esp
063 Slof's Goth Shop 1.2 DV.esp
064 Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp
065 ImprovedTelvanniErzmagister.esp
066 Orden der Ehre Patch.esp
067 Master_Index_DV.esp
068 Soti_BetterDreamers.esp
069 Clean Chittaa' Birthsigns.esp
070 The_Tylwyth.esp
071 Siege at Firemoth_DV.esp
072 Hg's Happy Vampires.esp
073 KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp
074 UQFsMasterFacePack.esp
075 Happy Vampires II.esp
076 Riekling Knock Off.esp
077 Solstheim_Geruecht_Fix.esp
078 OblRüstung_DunkleBruderschaft.esp
079 Better Beasts.esp
080 Bessere Wegweiser.esp
081 MedievalClothesDV.esp
082 Myrabell's Bekleidungsladen DV.esp
083 vampire_embrace_companionshare-fix_2.3.esp
084 Aradias Nadel.esp
085 DN_AshVampires.esp
086 BB_CloV_v1.0DV.esp
087 _sld_Ren_OB16_hair.esp
088 BLLDV_ALLDV.esp
089 Vality's Bitter Coast Addon_DV.esp
090 LeFemm Armor.esp
091 Female Shirts.esp
092 Barabus Orcs.esp
093 Just Face It.esp
094 BB2_Silk_Dresses.esp
095 WhiteSuran.esp
096 Ald Oris.esp
097 Gasthaus.esp
098 Chittaa-Jiit.esp
099 correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
100 Ayses Faces.esp
101 Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp
102 Chittaa'mer.esp
103 Happy Holidays DV.esp
104 Laternen-Replacer_DV.esp
105 koranas dress vendors.esp
106 CoM_em_outfits1 DV.esp
107 CoM_rt_outfits DV.esp
108 arkeylan armor complete.esp
109 ina head and hair.esp
110 lfx_rare_merged-uniques.esp
111 Ald Vendras.esp
112 Feeank_ Resource_Island_for_modders.esp
113 Aleanne combined.esp
114 Emmas combined faces.esp
115 BadKarma MQB Eleg Gowns Combined.esp
116 new dress vendors IV.esp
117 Kalian's Hairs.esp
118 wiz face all.esp
119 SRheadscomplete.esp
120 Cens sixy armor.esp
121 Dragans Renaissance Clothes and more.esp
122 quarls faces complete.esp
123 featfaceskorcompl.esp
124 Full Gowns.esp
125 the drow complete.esp
126 DV_1.0_Vivec_Telvanni.esp
127 sixyOrdinatorArmor2DV.esp
128 BetterClothesForTB.esp
129 Clean Hold it-replacer.esp
130 Ice Robe Replacer.esp
131 Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
132 moons_soulgems.esp
133 Clean balancedchimerrace_notats_V2.esp
134 UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp
135 Knock Knock Mod 1.2.esp
136 Camonna Tong's violence 1.2.esp
137 Brigands 1.1.esp
138 Bounty Hunters 1.1.esp
139 cattle_fix.esp
140 diverse imperial housing.esp
141 vamp npcs.esp
142 MCA - Guards Patch.esp
143 MCA - Vampire Realism Patch.esp
144 Morag Tong Compatible MCA 5.2.esp
145 new dress vendors III.esp
146 Better Skulls.ESP
147 Another Balmora.esp
148 wohngalleere.esp
149 ode landscapefix.esp
150 new dress vendors.esp
151 new dress vendors II.esp
152 new armor vendor.esp these are a collection of maybe 25 clothing and armor mods. no statics alteration.
153 Hold it-COM addon.ESP
154 wl_dockclutter.esp
155 AOFs_Potions_Replacer.esp
156 reise reise tel fyr another balmora sis.esp
157 Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
158 wzdtwr.esp
159 Wüsten-Region.esp
160 uniamul.esp
161 Slof's Goth Shop II & Kinky Add-on DV.esp
162 Provincial_Bath _Shoppe_v1.esp
163 L'étoffe des guerrières v1.1 DV.esp
164 jromates Celeb Facepack.esp
165 The Holiday Mod DV.esp
166 LeveledMagicka.esp
167 Louis_BeautyShop_DV.esp
168 The Shrine of Mephala by Westly.esp
169 bobs armory total complete.esp
170 Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.ESP
171 Unbloody MW.esp
172 Westly_Presents_Unique_Winged_Twilights.esp
173 Twilight_Flight_1.0.esp
174 Illy's Solsteim Rumour Fix.esp
175 ArkhamExperience.esp
176 Clean dark molag mar.ESP
177 Spect Sorcery pt 1.esp
178 Sotonhorian.ESP
179 Widow maker crossbow.esp
180 Shadowfox Armor.esp
181 new armor vendor II.esp
182 Gothic Lolita Dresses Pure DV.esp
183 House of Earthly Delights, Harem Style.esp
184 plangkyes female armor.esp merged
185 Dremora_armor.esp
186 Beds For Rent.esp
187 Female_Ranger_Armor_1_1.esp
188 Books of Vvardenfell.esp
189 TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp
190 TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
191 TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp
192 Bloated Caves.esp
193 unique imperial textures combined.esp
194 greener places.esp
195 Ranger Tent.esp
196 Bedroll.esp (Version 1.20)
197 schnellstart.esp
198 Psy_IronMeshImprove_Uniques_BME.esp
199 Westly Presents_Aureals.esp
200 Clean Containers!.ESP
201 balmora MT.esp
202 Centurion_Face_KorSis_DV.esp
203 Charming Ash Vampires.ESP
204 Dietriche und Sonden korrigiert - korrigiert BM.esp
205 DB Armor Reducer.esp
206 CR Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
207 velothi domes.ESP
208 Unique Tombs.esp
209 Book Jackets Light.esp
210 Laufsteg.esp
211 Westly_Presents_Unique_Corprus_Stalkers.esp
212 Unique Corprus LvL Addon.esp
213 DS_Mazken.esp
214 sheogoraths spawns addon.ESP
215 Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
216 Alakazar's Lamp_no_music.esp
217 Westly Presents The V'Kai.esp
218 Westly Presents-Sarek.esp
219 Westly Presents_Exiles of Akavir_N.esp
220 Westly Presents-Dremora Markynaz.esp
221 Westly Presents Nuada and Nuala.esp
222 Westly Presents_Half Races of Tamriel_X.esp
223 Westly_Presents_Kheran_X.esp
224 Westly Presents_Half-Troll.esp
225 Exotic Imports by Westly.esp
226 Westlys M'harjaan_DV.esp
227 Westly Presents-Altaran.esp
228 Westly Presents_Halflings (nvde).esp
229 Westly Presents-Night Song Armor DV.esp
230 unique Maar Gan.esp
231 TG's Elven Armor.esp
232 rotten hlaalu.esp divides hlaalu buildings but no nord houses
233 Healers.esp
234 Slof's Pillow Book.esp
235 Solsteim_topic.esp
236 Protective Guards.esp
237 bw unique towns.ESP
238 MCR little cosmetics.ESP
239 Leaves of Lorien_DV13.esp
240 unique Pelagiad.esp
241 daily bathing.esp spreads water items all over the world
242 MT_Schrein_ShFx_Patch.esp
243 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp (Version 1.0)
244 seelensteine.esp
245 neue npca pt 2.esp
246 neue npcs pt 1.esp
247 love orc.esp
248 Graphic Herbalism.esp
249 Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
250 TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp
251 TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp
252 Mashed Lists.esp


i have absolutely no clue...
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benjamin corsini
 
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:21 am

perhaps it has something to do with the order in which the mods are loaded.
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Danii Brown
 
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:34 am

which means it must be one loaded after unique pelagiad... i checked those and found nothing :(
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Kieren Thomson
 
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:18 pm

which means it must be one loaded after unique pelagiad... i checked those and found nothing :(

well, I'm not much of a modder, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a mod just has to make the simplest change to the house in order to effect it, right? So how could you know if they didn't test an object there and move something, then save the moved object? Then it would be nearly impossible to figure out without a binary search or something, right? or am I completely wrong?
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:03 am

well, I'm not much of a modder, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a mod just has to make the simplest change to the house in order to effect it, right? So how could you know if they didn't test an object there and move something, then save the moved object? Then it would be nearly impossible to figure out without a binary search or something, right? or am I completely wrong?

yeah that's right. but - it should be loaded after unique pelagiad to take efford. i unchecked all files loaded after that mod and windows glow which directly influences houses. it just makes no sense that the house is altered back. and - both wglow and unique pelagiad directly influence the model, which means that the model is completely a different one... and if i go to pelagiad and have a look at the nord house (open console and click on it) it shows me the unaltered beth-mesh. that's why i'm so confused...

i checked the list with mlox and it showed nothing.

that's why i aks here. maybe someone noticed a thing like that. i only have the chance to click me through 250 mods in the enchanted editor (what i already did with all mods that influence houses and put new in)

argh... :(
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:56 pm

which means it must be one loaded after unique pelagiad... i checked those and found nothing :(

You can also use http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=100 to search to find out which mod might cause this issue. :)

Let me guess you're using the Python based Wrye Mash version right?
If so I would suggest that you use http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ instead, because Melchor has improved it a little which not requires Python.
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Post » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:54 pm

You can also use http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=100 to search to find out which mod might cause this issue. :)

Let me guess you're using the Python based Wrye Mash version right?
If so I would suggest that you use http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ instead, because Melchor has improved it a little which not requires Python.

no, i got the new one :) thanks for the link!
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Post » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:16 am

no, i got the new one :) thanks for the link!

You're welcome. :)
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