Topic is pretty much the question: future Fallout games are only going to be able to dance around the issue for so long before they have to mention how things turned out in New Vegas. So, that said, which of the four endings (NCR, Legion, House, and Independent) do you believe is going to be considered the official Fallout canon one? Why?

The game was made so it is a dead heat between NCR and cl. With the courier House could also be canon. The inability to even speculate what happened there is the main thing I do not like about fo nv.

Yes Man is worthless, and is the only one I can clearly say will not be canon. Leaving Yes man in charge would be stupid.


I would like to see NCR,but what I would like is irrelevant.

Why? NCR has built a good mini nation on old war values of democracy and the rule of law. They are also more flexable, and not as stand-offish as House.

CL- Well, anyone that would like them to come into their town IRL needs their head gear checked.

I'll say what I've said befor :
In all other three Legion is the one who loses.
In two of them NCR loses too.
In all except Houses House is dead.
So that makes highest chance for Independent.
But if they want more conflict Legion is the best.
If they want to use NCR even more (sigh, hope not) then they probebly win.
If they want all of it to just "f*uck off", they will go with house.

I think it depends on what will happen with Fallout 4. If the devs want no Legion presence then obviously Legion is out, though I love them and truly want them in FO4 even if it's as a small presence. In addition, Legion are seen as the bad guys...the only time the bad guys win is when the PC is not present. It would be irritating if NCR won, they probably will though, as long as they try to stop expanding and don't end up in FO4 I'll be happy. I don't see how they'd play a big role in FO4, unless we're in CA again :facepalm: I think it's safe to say that House and Yes Man are out, a small robot army may seem super cool, but really, you did all of that work on your own...might be cool if that became cannon, but I feel like the Independent or House Vegas would be easy to take over.

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Independent, because it seems to have a good mix of all the other endings.

Probably NCR.

Legion obviously. /nobiashere.Nope!

Tabatha.

Wut?

I hope it isnt NCR given the amount of land they already have as I dont think having a growing nation constantly growing in each game they are in and winning over all (cannonly) will keep a fallout theme.

Im hoping House is cannon but can live legion(though the next game with them in should expand them alot more to be less brutal and more grey then near complete evil)

Also very small chance here but an Elijah Ending be cannon would be funny

My vote goes to House. In the House wins scenario , you have a still working, and now powerful Vegas, and the Legion and NCR only retreat from the region. NCR really is better off for it, since it leads to them cleaning house of the corrupt politicians and inept general. That way they can focus on there internal problems better. Legion just goes back behind the river and a depending on how they work it, either just has to build up again or finds a new and stronger leader.

I think so as well. With House, the power in the region effectively returns to a status quo, rather than one faction lording over another.

Besides, if House doesn't win, we lose such an interesting and chasmatic figure.

What? That's the most backwards logic I've ever heard. They all have, at the most basic level of probability, a 1/4 chance of being canon. How each ending relates to the other does not increase or decrease, probability wise, the chance of it being canon.

Nobody can say canonically but in logical terms, Legion would win. Why? Because each Legionary is much stronger than NCR. That would be less of a problem if the Legion had less people, but according to dialogue, the NCR and Legion are about evenly matched. Another thing is the situation of each faction.

For Caesar's Legion, there's really only three options for the Legion. Fight and come back victorious, fight and die, or retreat and die. So in any mindset, it's better to fight and die as a true soldier than retreat and die like a coward. Not mentioning the Legion's ranking system based on experience and a willingness to die for Caesar rather than a traditional ranking system. For Legion, Hoover Dam is their ascension to civilization.

For NCR, the soldiers could run away and they'd still die but the mentality isn't there. They aren't as motivated as the Legion. For NCR, Hoover Dam is just a position they need to defend, albeit an important one. Not to mention retreating is actually a viable option for the NCR so they are more likely to back away. The only thing NCR has going for them is the Rangers. Them and Hanlon were the only reason NCR won the First Battle. But for the Second Battle, Oliver can't see that the Rangers are that important and rather rely on his heavy troopers.

You seem to base this purely on a Legion V. NCR fight, in which case I agree that the Legion would be the ones to capture Hoover Dam.

However, that is completely thrown out when you consider House and the army of securitrons he has poisitioned under the fort. House seems to be the logical choice for me.

Hopefully it isn't NCR. They need to be put in their place and diminish in stability and control. Same with Legion. Because if Bethesda is adamant in their policy on moving the timeline forward, we need some excuses to have some instability, and I don't want to keep going to frontier lands of factions that keep growing in power. I want to see how different groups develop, but I don't want them to become much more civilized than NCR is as of New Vegas.

Anyway, I vote for either House or Yes Man. Yes Man is my preference, but I have a feeling that there wouldn't be a major difference between the 2 for a game in a western area.