If you pay attention to the intro videos before each stage, the Security and Resistance factions have two very different and contradictory ideas about what is happening on the Ark. Which side do you believe is right about the events? Is Mokoena misleading the Security recruits so they will be more eager to kill the dissidents? Is Chen lying to his followers to spur them to actions they would normally not do? Are they both wrong, or both somehow right? Do you feel like you have no reason to trust either one, or completely not care?

-On the first mission, the Resistance believe they are trying to stop Security from extracting one of their undercover agents, while Security believe they are rescuing a hostage.

-On the second mission, the Resistance believe the airport terminal contains their flight path to escape the Ark. Mokoena claims it contains Chen's plans for attacks againt the Ark. A Security agent also claims that the plague does not exist, but is this year's flu.

-On the third mission, the Resistance are told that the box contains the only sample of a vaccine for the plague, which the Founders intend to steal and ration for themselves. The Security are led to think the box contains a biological weapon which they must collect to produce a vaccine for before the Resistance release it.

-When the Resistance attempt to flee the Ark, the Security are told that the outside world is a desolate place desperate to loot the Ark's resources. This fact is "classified" and not known among the general population, the Security forces are forbidden from mentioning it. How can we know if it is the truth?

-When the Resistance plan to fire their missile at Founder's Yower, Chen claims before the stage starts that the tower is currently empty. Mokoena states that the tower must be evacuated and the missile launch will kill thousands.

I'm all for Security, but there are time when both sides look just as bad.

Security charge in and take the "bioweapon" - which I think is probably actually a vaccine, but they're worried it could be turned into a bioweapon.

I believe (from listening to the audio logs) that the "we tried to contact the outside world and it was *#&$ed" story is true.

But other audio logs give reason to believe the Ark is far less healthy than the Founders or Security realise, and that going back to the mainland may actually be needed in order to save everyone..

Security. Before release I thought resistance. But later learned Security were the good guys.

Resistance comes over and gets water rations and everything. Maybe their lives svck. But they live. And the founders LET them in. They could of just said "nope, get out". And the founders can live in luxury since they WORKED for it.

Resistance is also filled with psychos and criminals.

Resistance are only fighting to escape the Ark to the heaven that is the outside world.

Except Security refuses to tell them that the outside world is worse than Ark. In my opinion, just saying that would've prevented the war, but it's much too late for that now.

Resistance. Nick is right about Guests being lucky enough to be alive, but it doesnt seem right that the Guests are the only ones with rations? Security arent the bad guys though so to speak. They are just the hired muscle of the Founders; the REAL cause of this. Luxuries are unneccessary in a survival situation. It also seems like Mokoena wanted to keep Security with no info on what was REALLY going down.

I've thought about that to. Most of the Resistance is desperate. They will become enraged if they find out that their is an outside world and that Security kept it secret. And they would most likely make even a bigger war and wouldn't listen to reason. If resistance would of found the outside world they would be tortured and they will most likely tell the savages where the ARK is and the savages will come and kill everyone...

But they worked for it =/

And you need to keep the leaders alive. Honestly. If I was the leader I wouldn't let some immigrants in. But I guess they needed them for jobs. But once again. You have to keep the leaders alive.

Or you can kill them all and proclaim a new leader.

Only thing I don't get is, Resistance are refugees from the main land. And now they want to go back there, so why did you leave in the first place?

I think there both right in some ways, and wrong in others.

I know this isnt the answer for all the refugees, but maybe most of them HAD to leave because the areas they lived in flooded. Going back to the mainland doesnt mean they have to go back exactly to where they came from, but I know what you mean.

not all of them, i believe a couple of them were like born here yknow?

Listen to the audio files, as they are probably the best ever. Really helps the story, and well is just better than the actual campaign at times. Prof. Habib (one of the recorders) talks about how when they found the Guest that they could not close their hearts. Now this is from Habib's account so some might see it as a new work force, while those like Habib would see the Guest as helpless. They saw what they could of been in the Guest. So they obviously let them in out of pity.

Another audio log (forgot the recorder) talks of change, and how he has worked since he was very young. Now he is much older. His father had to sacrifice leaving his wife even to be on the ARK. While The boy might of been young then he is much older, and with age comes time for procreation. So of course the population is growing. As for which side, I believe neither are right. For they both withhold information from their own men. I hope this DLC has decent storyline to expand on surely. The ending videos of each Leader is not enough.

In the end, the Ark is finite and for them to continue without getting too Machiavellian they're going to need to go back to the rest of the world.

Security is right for trying to keep peace, the Ark is running on edge as it is and it needs order to continue to run. Security is wrong for being the armed enforces of some people who are more interested in their high tower rather than the actual people on the ground. They should hold themselves accountable and be more independent instead of running in and taking a vaccine just 'cause they're worried it may become a bio-weapon.

The Resistance is right, they're people and deserve to be treated as such. While they came as refugees they've more than earned their keep and don't deserve to be rust covered-water-rationed slaves. The Resistance is wrong because they continue to push and push violently and allow themselves to be staffed by murderers and criminals, people whom they would never give weapons to in the real world and their willingness to kill their own informant just because he was compromised.

So in the end, as it should be, they're all right and wrong but until they work together the Ark is ultimately doomed.

Don't forget the backstory that's displayed in the audio logs

the way i saw it. resistance turned out to be torrorists. i mean they launched a missile to the tower and killed civilians. and they blew the reactor. but i hate security side. resistance ftw

The Guests work for it. Chen even mentions that he was there when the tower was built suggesting that he has been there since the beginning, so some of the "Guests" may not even be guests so to speak, much like many of the security members were "guests" (many are mercenaries and criminals as well according to audio logs) that had employable skills.



That's all in the "What if" missions which didn't actually take place, they're interpretations of events by the other side. The Resistance fired the missle at the chopper to get the nav computer and the Reactor Meltdown was a "What If Nacheyev didn't escape" and the Resistance was stuck and forced to fight (and some of them lost sight of their goals).

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In the end the Security and the Resistance have many correct goals, but both sides need better leadership at this point. What ever the situations that brought them together in the first place and whoever they were before the world "ended" is irrelevant. They are all in the same boat now and if they were truly concerned about surviving they would put aside certain differences.

Ration water for everybody, get the guests into the abandoned areas for housing, breakdown all the old ships and crates for scrap and work together to solve the problems they're having. In addition, having all the guns on the same side makes for a stronger force to keep the "outsiders" out.

I seriously doubt, however, that the entire outside world is at the same level of issue and wonder if, perhaps, the landing party that was tortured for the Ark's location was actually betrayed (possibly by Ishmael?).

I have no reason to trust either. :flamethrower:

Both sides have their points, but try to reach their goals via usage of weaponry now. Doesn't matter who started it, it can't go out well. The Ark is paying now for not refusing to take any more people in the past. Now they have to deal with them and they fail at it, the reasons are obvious. And although I understand the position of the Resistance and that it could be possibly the only way out, I support noone using weaponry to achieve something.

I have to vote for resistance
They just want to leave... just let them and the war stops
Put turrets all around the outside of the ark to stop anyone (read: no one) that may come back

I think both sides are being lied to by the founders...AND this is all a sick experiment!!!

I think the whole idea is for both to have their good and bad sides to the story. Especially when it comes to the hostages, some of the cutscenes give it away, like:

SPOLIER

"What's Nechayev doing in the infirmary? he was healthy when we caught him!" etc. but in the main I think the Resistance are in the wrong. Both are just doing what they need to so they can survive because both factions are pitted against each other because leaving the Ark would take too much resource away from the people who want to stay. If you finish the Security Campaign so that the Security wins, the Ark is left in a state but the resistance is crushed; if you run through the campaign as Resistance, they leave in the plane and you dont know what happens. Only in the What-If missions do the Resistance go too far and destroy the Ark's reactors. (Unless i've missed something here which is very possible)

There is no 'right' side, it depends on your own personal survival instincts. Do you stay safe, or risk and try to find something better?

Someone on these forums mentioned before about the boat at the end cutscene showing both leaders as if this is some sort of scientific experiment or something (a little too Fallout Vault though isn't it?) so beyond the whole survival story there's also this running in the back of your mind as to if the whole thing is even real, and if there's any truth in what happened when the Security sent out the boat to contact the outside world - where they murdered to keep the Ark isolated? Hm...

On a side note: this thread is easily going to contain spoilers...

Yeah neither is right in a sense.

What they are trying to accomplish might be right. But the methods used are extreme

there are no good guys in this game.. both sides show pro's and cons and they just fight for what they believe is right.



The guests (pre-resistance) looking for a chance for a normal life.. they did come from the mainland you know.. and the mainland is censored up...
yes the founders gave them some food and jobs, but no home, they made their own.
more importantly you forget the fact that these guests are actually the ones who made most of the ark, so how can you hate them so much?
i think its foolish and selfish the founders kept so much rations, wealth and information to themselves.

all couldve been prevented if the rations were split properly and everybody got fair jobs, payment and shelter and most important info on whats going on out there.
if they said, chen.. the world is both savage and pretty much dead. doubt the resistance would try so hard to get away from the ark.

PS: i smell one big global goverment conspiracy fallout style ("bunkers" away from the general folks, slowly laying waste to themselves,out in a world full of chaos and death, all part of a twisted goverment expirment on the human mind...)

Did the thought cross someone's mind that this is - in all respects- how every political altercation in real life plays out?
Did you ever consider the thought of right and wrong to be a matter of personal preference and just slightly let in the notion that no such thing as absolute right and wrong exists?

I love that this war is presented from both sides, FINALLY a game/media that isn't polarized to the extent of nausea.