I guess you dont know their true goal.

Posted earlier in response to you.

Yeah sounds like they have everything under control

It sure did when the akaviri attempted to invade. The individual provinces have banded together in the face of larger threats before. Even provinces that historically hated each other(Morrowind/Skyrim).

Post of the day.

Based on this I'd say have your character choose to stay neutral. Your character seems to conflicted to make one side or another a good choice because your character will have regrets both ways.

It is not, because governments in the end will do whatever it takes to keep on going. It's more then probable. It's plausible that they will to fight the elven menace. In fact, the empire won't have a choice really.

Funny, considering how well they did last time, and that was with Hammerfell distracting them. Without Hammerfell, they're in deep doo doo. They need Hammerfell. Don't josh yourself.

This is why beth really needed to have a speech skill option to end the civil war permanently during the peace treaty. Some of us like both sides, and with a bit of shmoozing I think both could come to an agreement. But apparently speech is only for selling things now

You say he hates the Thalmor, but how does he feel about the Dominion?

Congratulations. You just found out that the Empire isn't perfect. Want a sweet roll?

The Empire isn't perfect. And neither are the Stormcloaks. They have their flaws. And for me, the Empire (despite their flaws) has a better chance of ending the Thalmor threat. So please stop trying to say that the Stormcloaks are the Gods gift to man kind.

Join the Dragon cult.

I'd love to see them try...

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1466421-the-unofficial-ulfric-fangirl-thread-16/?p=22846750

And anyway, Tullius has like, no sixy pic art for a thread like that.

Letting your enemy come in and kidnap/torture/kill civilians for their religion is a mere flaw eh? Damn, you're like every gov's ideal citizen.

Stormcloaks aren't the ones bending knee to Thalmor.

*Steals sweetroll*

Ehh... why not just this one time.

The Empire. Why? Better for the future of Skyrim, trade, laws, yadda yadda yadda.

Going messing with any locks around here, we're going to have a real problem.

Because rebelling is always cool. Look. As I said, the Empire isn't perfect. They never were, never will be. Such is life. But I assure you, all the Empires wrongs will be corrected when they defeat the Dominion.

Hands to yourself, sneak thief.

But a lot of these problems were going on before the thalmor formed?

Okay...I already said that nothing is perfect. Everything will have its problems and its flaws.

Right, because all of their shortcoming start and end with their prostituting their citizens to the thalmor. Check that list again, friend. And "rebelling always = cool", lol, you say that as if they don't have every reason to do so, and as if my responses were glorifying the SCs and weren't well thought out unlike others I've seen.

You might not have seen some of my posts, but I respect the Stormcloaks. Which is more than can be said for you guys since you take every opportunity to slander and attack the Empire.

I respect the cause, I enjoy it. And yes, you do take the time to glorify the Stormcloaks everytime you (and others) get.

I respect the legion, but not the empire.

They would have been better off a band of rouge Thalmor hunters. Instead of starting a unnecessary Civil War they could have taken their fight to the root of the problem, the Thalmor. The Imperials aren't the bad guys, they are caught bewteen a rock and a hard place and they are doing what they must to get by. These will be my last remarks on this thread.

You call defending their cause glorifying, which is inaccurate. It's cool that you respect their cause or whatever, but I can't say the same for the imps. Think badly of me if you want, but there is absolutely nothing redeeming in them to me. That benefit of the doubt crap stops right at the point where religious hunting is allowed in your territory for any reason. There's a reason it's getting slandered. And lets not pretend like the imps aren't taking every opportunity to slander the SCs. And Ulfric.

The Empire would simply do what they did at Markarth and arrest them all. The imps are the bad guys in my book. They're the ones letting the butterscotch elves in.

No not really. The Imperial Supporters I have seen, have all respected (possibly admired) the cause. It's only the slandering of Ulfric I have seen.

I think I'll stop now. This is has probably gone off topic and wasn't even on topic to begin with.

"You support the Empire, then?"

Alvor: "Of course. Skyrim has always been part of the Empire. That doesn't mean I support everything the Empire's been doing lately, but Nords have never been fair-weather friends."

Alvor and i think similarly.