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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Grey-Mane. Only battleborn I like is Jon.

Here's the baseball equivalent of what the Empire did with the wgc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqTIy7Tt4iE

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Far'ed K.G.h.m
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 6:32 pm

The Empire has always dominated the polls except the time when the game came out I recall. There was a time when Stormies used to win but as the game got older, the support started going to the Empire.

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Ricky Rayner
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 1:59 pm

Except when its a nord only poll.

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Syaza Ramali
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 1:22 pm

>Empire supporters will tell you to join the Empire.

> Stormcloak supporters will tell you to join Ulfric.

> Nobody will give you a response based on the description of your character.

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C.L.U.T.C.H
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 8:29 am

People have already actually.

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Brad Johnson
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 6:24 pm

And? Nords only make half of Skyrim's population. The other half has just as much say to what happens in their homeland.

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Richus Dude
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 9:01 pm

For some, the Empire already starts off as the bad guys because of the mistaken execution at Helgen. It's all the same.

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Dan Scott
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 7:52 pm

Source that says they're only half in the land of the nords, please.

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Kate Murrell
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 7:19 pm

http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Demographics

The game itself.

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Taylor Thompson
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 11:30 pm

That is the game, not lore. Look, they even talk about unnamed guards...this proves nothing....

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REVLUTIN
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 7:12 pm

What, so for example the Breton majority of Markarth doesn't exist or something? I find those numbers fairly reasonable. 6% Dunmer? Sounds very likely, given the mass of refugees. Lots of Imperials, makes sense given the 600 years Skyrim has been in the Empire. Even if you count unnamed NPCs Nords wouldn't make more than ~60% of Skyrim, which is still leaving quite a lot of people out of the voting booth.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 2:51 pm

I don't care what you think is reasonable, the majority of Skyrim would be nords, as its the land of the nords. Unless you have a lore source saying otherwise, you have nothing. Game npc amounts don't mean anything.

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Jamie Lee
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 10:32 pm

This also isn't a democracy. It's a Kingdom, and the nords rule it.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 7:10 pm

Yes of course. It doesn't serve your opinion, so it must be false. :twirl: I'm sure all those non-Nord NPCs in the game are in by accident or something.

For comparison, in Oblivion Imperials made up less than a third of the NPC stock, which most certainly is plausible, while in Morrowind the Dunmer were an overwhelming majority at ~75%.

Nords rule only half of their country at the moment. Less than half actually. The Empire is calling the shots in the west and in the Empire everyone gets an equal chance.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 1:19 pm

It's the other way around. The IC would've been toast without reinforcements and supply lines from the north.

There's really no "empire" to speak of. It's been in long decline. The Medes had to have daedric backup to even keep what power they had, and they barely did that.

LOL

All of one, who got the job when her husband died?

Imperialism is the highest form of prejudice. Imperial propaganda is rife with the idea that the other races can't tie their shoelaces without big daddy to do it for them. Apparently Cyrodiil is incapable of dealing with other nations bilaterally and fairly.

So what makes you think Skyrim is going to be more like Cyrodiil than Morrowind? That makes no sense, considering the lore about Skyrim is that it's remote and has a harsh landscape to which the Nords have adapted. MK's concept art said there would be villages where no one had even heard of the Septim empire. Alas, they made TESV Oblivion North and we didn't see it.
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James Baldwin
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 1:40 pm

It matters not. There are other reasons for instance why bretons would be the majority in markarth that have nothing to do with lore. The forsworn are the primary enemy in the reach, and they'd want you to see them a lot there, so they use that enemy type more. Wouldn't have anything to do with the lore population. Fact is, the developers likely have many unknown reasons for having things be the way they are. So until you have a lore source that states otherwise, you pointing to gameplay populations is weak and unconvincing.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 12:06 pm

So... we shouldn't assume Ulfric is racist because there is no actual evidence in his dialogue, but we should take for a fact that he segregated the Argonians out of concern though no one in the game has said anything that supports it?

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 5:07 pm

The Nords sure have a hard time taking advantage of their supposed dominance. Skyrim is an asset to the Empire and that's what it was used for. The Nords bailed out the IC because that's their job. Now they are being put back in line and so far before the Dovahkiin's intervention the Empire has been doing a good job at it.

The Medes rule a monarchy and have the title of Emperor. That makes the Empire an Empire even if it can't live up to its older form.

Demographics involve only named NPC, not Forsworn, Bandits, Thalmor, or anything else.

Lore > Gameplay, but when there is no lore, gameplay steps in to fill the holes. Until lore contradicts the statistics anyone can make when playing Skyrim, what we see is most likely true. Yes, even if it doesn't help the Stormcloak cause I'm afraid.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 3:39 pm

Ok, now you're really stretching it.

The demographics make perfect sense. It's the Nord "homeland" because 50% of the residents are of a single race(Nord), while the other 50% consists of 9 other races. The demographics are lore accurate.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 10:38 pm

Brunwulf continues the policy because he says it's for their safety. He's talking about safety from Nords, but Scouts-Many-Marshes remarks on how all the races in Windhelm hate each other.

And I can call myself the queen of Patagonia, it doesn't make it so.
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 10:22 am

Well if you don't like that reason, it is said that he does this to avoid conflict with nords, which an influx of foreigners would cause conflict in any city. Take it how you will. But there's very little real evidence of actual hate or disdain from him on racism. Beth has never been subtle to hide things like that in people before.

According to what? The only "evidence" there is are npc amounts in a videogame. The only reason you think its reasonable is because you're anti nord. It makes no sense for there to be a higher total of other races in Skyrim than nords. And until there is a lore source saying otherwise, again, you have nothing.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 9:55 pm

Double post

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 3:17 pm

No one would recognize you as one. Yet Mede II is recognized as Emperor by vast majority of Tamriel. The Stormcloaks refer to him as Emperor, the Dominion recognizes him as Emperor, the Imperials call him the Emperor.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 11:51 pm

And we should believe the most pro-Nord instead?

Ok.

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Dale Johnson
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 6:21 pm

They called the holy roman empire the holy roman empire. And yet...

I'm not the one using gameplay as a basis for lore.

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