But as I said they were never as commonplace as popular fiction (films andliterature) lead us to believe. the only real one I know of is completly differant to the flails that you guys are thinking of and I study the damn subject.

Forgot how cool flails looked, voted for them.

Ok you study the subject and I know you know more then me about them.

I actually just learned something... A http://www.ritterruestung-handgeschmiedet.de/englishversion/weapons/pictures/morningstar.jpg was sometimes referred to as a Morningstar as well. Basically any weapon that features a spiked ball (whether it has a chain or not) was refered to historically as a morningstar.

A http://www.armouronline.com/foto/produkty/titulni/628_flail.jpg. As weapons inspired by the grain-threshing flail used by farmers the militarized versions often had the http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/09/3/1/0/70324611480769324.jpg.

The two types of weapon are almost polar opposites as far as handling goes. As one would imagine, wielding a weapon that's a one-handed chain weapon with a shorter handle, longer chain, and ball instead of rod would be totally different then the two handed flail which would be wielded more like a polearm.

The best term I've found to describe it is Kettenmorgenstern - literally 'chain-morningstar' in German. That distinguishes it from the fixed morningstar ('Morgenstern' in German), and also from the 'true' flail, which was more like a giant nunchaku (the nunchaku itself possibly also derived from the agricultural flail).


but all of that is besides the point...


Your confusing real world functionality and practicality with Fictitious video games. Video games can do whatever they want really. Sure it does need to have a form of realism to keep you immersed but I don't see this as any reason not to have flails is all I'm saying. It doesn't make Flails or Morningstars any less of a practical weapon for a video game and there's no reason why real life misconceptions about the weapon should spur people into not wanting them in a video game.

For the record. When I voted on Flails I voted on Morningstars. The ones I'm talking about in all my posts previous to this look like http://www.ringgame.net/SecondAge/weapons/flail.jpg.

throwing spear of corse, what culd be more tactical, than using roman tactics as in, throwing 1 spear and then get in to the melee

so what if they weren't really commonplace in reality, they are really popular in fantasy settings. magic and dragons weren't really commonplace either.

a crossbow that shoots spears

Crossbows for me. When I read "whips" I just imagined a dragon attacking your character "Dovahkiin, I will consume your flesh!" *CRACK* "AAAAH! What the hell was that?!" *CRACK* "[censored] IT! Seriously!" *CRACK* "What the fffffffff... that broke the skin!" *CRACK* "STOOOOP! Please stop!"

you sir are evil to make me choose. I cant decide whether I want whips or polearms more. the rest I couldnt care less about but I'd absolutely love to have whips or polearms....

This thread...again :facepalm:

For me? Im voting for flails. But, the whip is in a VERY close 2nd place

Polerams, tho without a good visuals it'll be a waste.


I cant imagine polerams implemented and swing/stab like a sword, Ill never prob use one then

Staff, a la Robin Hood

Polearms big game requires big stick. any other weapon I would rather see is grenades Alchemists can make.

I like the idea of throwing knives for my stealth charecter.

Whips because they are kinky.

Throwing weapons:)

Throwing weapons are my vote but flails would be badass.

A PICK. light and heavy

SPEEERRRZ

psh, whatever. don't post if you don't want this thread to stay alive.

If I could only have one I would vote for my bare hands.

Toss up between crossbows and Throwing weapons. Although something tells me thrown weapons are in.

Some badass wands. Instead of flicking a stick around, it would look more complex than that. Something thicker, that curved around towards the back and that's where you held onto it. Made out of wood, but with many different paint jobs and designs, often mixing in soft glowing stones. Instead of flicking, it would be more like point and fire.

Next, I'd like to see a two handed staff. Much more powerful, so much that it has a slight kick and has a long cooldown time between uses. One would look down the length of the staff and aim before firing, to make sure you didn't miss. Basically a weapon meant for long range only.

I'd also like to see marksman factor into if one could shoot strait with staffs and wands...but that's another story.

Expanding on my hand to hand weapon idea, a special gauntlet type weapon. They'd exist as a pair, but can only be found one at a time, and one could mix match them for what they'd like. Upon hitting the target, a large visible burst of magic would be unleashed which would cause aditional damage. Some of the magic would come with an effect such as fire damage, while others could deal lightning or ice.

I wouldn't want Bethesda to do flails or whips, because it would need too much work in order to make them behave realistically. I would like spears or pole-arms, but they'd probably be a bit of a game-breaker due to the ability to keep your (melee focused) enemies back out of reach.

I'd probably like to see a crossbow, or maybe a quarter-staff. The again, a QS would probably run into the same problems as a pole-arm.

All I really want is an Elven longsword that looks just like an Elven shortsword, but longer.