Who actually wanted Athletics and Acrobatics?

Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:50 pm

The argument is that the Elder Scrolls postulates a world where magic exists and normal people have access to it. Skryim postulates a world with dragonborn, who are set apart from normal people by their natural ability to understand dragon language, absorb dragon souls, and use dragon shouts. City of Heroes postulates a world where people have superhuman abilities. In Skyrim, shooting fire is postulated, but running faster than a horse is not.

Yes it is, its lore in fact. How many times do I have to say this before people go read in game books in ES games that confirm the ability to perform super human feats?
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:26 pm

I sure don't care they are gone :D

actually I'm happy we got rid of the cheat/abuse friendly crap :P


This.
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:25 am

Because most people rarely got acrobatics above 50 unless they made a point of it. You very, very rarely had an actual need to jump in Oblivion.

i always made a point of it. i moved faster in the air than i did on the ground. so the higher i jump the faster i go. plus i liked being able to jump along rooftops.
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Oh yeah, i can smell http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/2005_Pacific_Coast_Road_Wrap_307_Flame_Sunglasses.jpg :flamethrower:
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:52 am

back flips were awesome

and I love dodging

it makes me move faster
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:00 am

Because most people rarely got acrobatics above 50 unless they made a point of it. You very, very rarely had an actual need to jump in Oblivion.


LOL just noticed ur avatar :D
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:02 pm

Yes it is, its lore in fact. How many times do I have to say this before people go read in game books in ES games that confirm the ability to perform super human feats?

Quote it.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:44 pm

back flips were awesome

and I love dodging

it makes me move faster


well they can still be in as normal jump/dodge moves actually I would love that :P
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:08 pm

That's a very bad example. Magic can be in the game without hurting anybody. After all you don't have to use it. Athletics and acrobatics were mandatory. They kept going up practically by themselves. That could partly wreck the new leveling mechanic (and sort of wrecked the old one). They're better off as perks and/or based on inventory weight, armor etc.

Good point right there selecting to be fast is ok with me and the armor weight should logicaly have alot to do with it perks are good for this it allows for more variance not less as you dont just get faster weather you choose to or not.
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:27 am

Quote it.

Realization of Acrobacy. One of many examples.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:32 pm

Realization of Acrobacy. One of many examples.

There, was that hard? :P
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:21 am

Yes it is, its lore in fact. How many times do I have to say this before people go read in game books in ES games that confirm the ability to perform super human feats?

regular people perform superhuman feats. that doesn't mean that they're common place. there are stories of women lifting cars off of their children in an effort to save them. but it doesn't mean they do it every day. a feat is not something that is commonly accomplished. a better phrase to use for describing this would be superhuman abilities.

sorry for nitpicking there. but feats are rare. Feat: "An accomplishment that's relatively rare or difficult."

if we can all move at superhuman speeds. or jump abnormally high. it isn't rare.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:03 pm

regular people perform superhuman feats. that doesn't mean that they're common place. there are stories of women lifting cars off of their children in an effort to save them. but it doesn't mean they do it every day. a feat is not something that is commonly accomplished. a better phrase to use for describing this would be superhuman abilities.

sorry for nitpicking there. but feats are rare. Feat: "An accomplishment that's relatively rare or difficult."

There are true stories of people jumping off of really high Temples, climbing them, then jumping off again, all day, without dying? Yeah, super human jumping and running is totally Nirn friendly.

Feat: An achievement that requires great courage, skill, or strength.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:57 pm

Actually hated athletics and acrobatics.

There was no way to train athletics effectively, at best after hitting the high high levels if you havnt trained it, you'll be at level 50.

Acrobatics just made things rediculous, I am actually pretty happy Skyrim doesnt have them. It means things will happen realisticly, no one will be bolting at a thousand miles per hour or launching on to the top of houses with no hastle.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:15 pm

There are true stories of people jumping off of really high Temples, climbing them, then jumping off again, all day, without dying? Yeah, super human jumping and running is totally Nirn friendly.


im not saying that it isnt.
im just saying i dont feel that feat is the proper word.

also both definitions are true.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:49 pm

im not saying that it isnt.
im just saying i dont feel that feat is the proper word.

also both definitions are true.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feat I'll use any word, really. Ill call it Grafitysphius.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:30 pm

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feat

because feats are not common.
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:31 am

There are true stories of people jumping off of really high Temples, climbing them, then jumping off again, all day, without dying? Yeah, super human jumping and running is totally Nirn friendly.

Feat: An achievement that requires great courage, skill, or strength.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/drunk-survives-five-storey-fall-twice/story-e6frev20-1225697113693
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:46 pm

because feats are not common.

Really fast people and people that could jump really high are pretty rare in Nirn. How many were in OB, maybe 6 or 7, plus whatever the PC wanted to do.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/drunk-survives-five-storey-fall-twice/story-e6frev20-1225697113693

The top of a temple in OB is taller than 15m. Plus he landed in the snow.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:05 pm

because feats are not common.

Every one i know has two feats well exept my brother the pirate :intergalactic:
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:33 pm

Really fast people and people that could jump really high are pretty rare in Nirn. How many were in OB, maybe 6 or 7, plus whatever the PC wanted to do.

hmm. point taken.

i for some reason was under the impression that you were implying that they were more common in lore than not. idk.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 pm

I wanted athletics and acrobatics.

Wouldn't you rather feel like a part of the world you're playing in, instead of feeling like some kid who found a cheat code that lets you outrun everything?

Including athletics and acrobatics and not "feeling like some kid who found a cheat code that lets you outrun everything" are not mutually exclusive. The skills could well have been balanced instead of eliminated.

The previous ES games were classic, but it doesn't mean nothing about them was bad. Let's keep the stupid aspects out of Skyrim.

The much better way to "keep the stupid aspects out of Skyrim" would be to alter them so that they're no longer stupid. Simply throwing them away is the cheap and lazy way out.

This recurring notion that we can either have one thing or another thing - that, for instance, we can either have "stupid" athletics and acrobatics or NO athletics and acrobatics - is poison. It's the sort of misleading propaganda that's fed to us by politicians. Beth should be above that, and people shouldn't fall for it.
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:46 am

I actually wanted acrobatics and athletics.

After Elder Scrolls I always found other games so boring and lazy for having only one speed throughout the entire game, and only one jump height.
I loved how at endgame I could be a superhuman acrobat and athlete.
My biggest fear is that one jump height will translate into level design that incorporates insurmountable barriers, to make the world seem bigger.
I hate those with a passion.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:08 pm

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/drunk-survives-five-storey-fall-twice/story-e6frev20-1225697113693



And Serbians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87
33,330 ft !!!

Slow Fall potion for the win :)
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Post » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:39 am

however if the beast races have legs similar to cats or dogs like http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z381/mattakamilk/cat-hind-leg.jpg wouldn't it make more sense for them to be able to run faster than the human races with normal legs?


I'm only speaking of having skills that train automatically. Should a Kajiit be the fastest race? Probably. Is giving an activity in game that can't be avoided by anyone a dedicated skill the very definition of superfluous? Absolutely. Like I said, I'm ready to try something new and I'll actually try it before condemning it as a poor decision. I have plenty of criticisms for all of Beth's games but those critiques are born after playing for several hundred hours. What makes me a Fan Boy is I actually respect Bethesda and will reserve my judgement which once passed down will not reflect poorly on them as a whole. They are still making the best RPG ever made and will be for the foreseeable future.
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