Hitler also wrote a screed stating in very specific terms everything he'd do when he came to power, and actually did all of it. Genuinely crazy people, you can usually see coming in some way or another. My personal experience of Ulfric hasn't demonstrated any signs of hunger for power at all.

but i do admit, imperials have a large army, but their soldiers svck, the stormcloacks are a smaller army but stonger

Actually, that person was an imperial captain, and made an on-the-spot decision. You'd have a better argument if it was Tullius or Rikke who had made that decision.

Gameplay does not equal lore.

If it did, then the Thalmor are stronger than the Stormcloaks.

A bit off topic here, I was traveling at night around Whiterun Hold when I saw huge amounts of fire from a distance. 2 Thalmor soldiers slaughtered 3 Stormcloaks but no.before they took one of theirs out. For you SC's, I took out the remaining Thalmor.

No. Both the Legion in Skyrim as well as all the farmers and such in the Stormcloaks are inexperienced. Neither side is all that great in combat. When it comes down to AI battles the Stromcloaks use stronger weapons and the Imperials will not quip shields. but gameplay =/= lore

same did tullius (or whatever the stupid skyrim name is) he was the leader there.

and hadvar, if he felt that sorry as he was a helgen, he is basicly a traitor to the imperials

The wiki is bad. For a while they even said that Ulfric was a Thalmor agent.

Please, don't start. You will always find varying opinions about controversial political figures. His VO notes indicate he's sincere and passionate about what he says, and in that speech, angry.

As for the OP's question, you should read http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Skyrim%27s_Rule The empire was not especially oppressive, but they took tribute and did interfere in Skyrim's affairs as you'd expect them to do. Mostly the Nords have cooperated willingly in their alliance with Cyrodiil and have been the most pro-empire province outside Cyrodiil itself. The WGC wasn't the only issue, but it is the main catalyst for the rebellion. The populace is divided and contrary to polemical discussions around here, pretty much evenly divided.

feeling sorry for someone who us not a rebel doesnt mean he is a traitor.

If I were the General, I think I'd be focusing my attention to someone who was the leader of the rebellion, not you.

It was the captain who gave order, not Tullius. I hate people calling Tullius a bad person,

"GUARDS, GET THE CIVILIANS TO SAFETY" is the first order he gives.

Admittedly I dont think Ulfric is power-mad, i'm just saying you could interpret his character as that.

How close was the Empire to winning the war before Mede pulled out? I was always curious by that. It was implied that they could've beat the Thalmor had the Empire not gave in, but people like Hadvar says that this was the only way for the Empire to survive the onslaught.

I can very much sympathize with Ulfric's cause. If I fought and bled for a country that soon turned around and said "haha, [censored] you" by agreeing to the same terms I helped fight against, would I like them? I would likely never trust them again, nor pick up my sword for them should they come begging for my help.

Ulfric himself? As a man? Well, that's the tricky part. The cause is sound, but the man leading it? Not quite so sound.

And Tullius? He had more pressing issues at hand than focusing on you. Hadvar tried, but the Imperial captain basically told him to clam up. At that point, he probably didn't see the point in trying to raise a fuss over it.

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No, but if the neglect of the Dunmer population in Windhelm is counted against Ulfric, the neglect of stopping the execution of someone you have no cause to execute(Thank you Hadvar, for trying to do the right thing ) is to be counted against Tullius. He is directly responsible for the actions of the people under his command and he didn't stop a severe case of perjury.

Yea, that.

Hadvar is not a traitor. I fealt sorry for Roggvir but that does not make me a traitor. Rikke says good bye the Nordic way to her old friend Ulfric when he is killed. Does that make her a traitor?

I dont think tullius is a bad man, but he doesnt treat the Dovahkiin with the respect He/She deserves.

Yea, Ive seen that pic of yours many, many, many times. I have played though Skyrim several times and on all but one have been Imperial and i have never seen them equip a shield. I only ever see them equip it during Tullius' speech outside the Palace of the King after Ulfrics defeat.

True. I always did like Hadvar.

Though I suspect people might criticize Hadvar with the Nuremberg argument. "Hey, sorry I didn't do more to save you. I was just following orders."

And why would Tullius treat the Dovahkiin with the respect he/she deserves? As far as he knows (and cares), you're just a recruit. If anything, not attempting to re-arrest you because you were hanging out with the Stormcloaks in the cart can be seen as showing respect.

Plus, Tullius doesn't even respect most Nordic customs, and that includes the legend of the Dovahkiin.

Desperation, not respect.

They had taken back the Imperial City at a great cost and destroyed the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil. There was no chance to invade the Dominion.

The problem is not that a peace treaty was made, that was the only logical way to go about it; the problem is that fighting achieved nothing at all, except kill a whole lot of people, make the Empire abandon Hammerfell(who got a much better treaty from what little we know about it). The Empire surrendered and all the fighting was for nothing, instead of refusing to bow to the Dominion, like the Redguards. And now the common people pay the prize by having Thalmor kidnap, torture and kill them, their friends and their family.

If I remember correctly the way he puts it is "you're earning your pardon".

Hmmm...point taken. Still, he was willing to overlook the fact that you were in the cart of Stormcloaks.

@ Tdroid- That's pretty much what I'm saying. They're pissed that the fighting and suffering had been for nothing, and now common folks are paying the price for it.

Yes but I wouldn't really have that as a point for Tullius. The fact that he sees a man with no armor and is in rags walk to the chopping block and doesn't question how I could be a stormcloak is rather damning in my book. No matter the excuse.

Yeah. You have a point. It would have been so easy for Tullius to just have you pulled aside until the matter was cleared up.

And you were never charged with any crimes, so him trying to re-arrest you would be another arrest without cause.