My mother and myself both play the same Fallout NV. However, hers was installed from the disk, on her personal computer, and mine was installed over steam on my personal computer. Her computer is older while mine is newer. I'm the one having the major glitches. We're both seeing scorpions sinking into the ground, but I'm having random crashes at the rate of one or two per every 3 to 4 hours. I'm also experiencing the NPC FPS slowdown during conversation sequences.

Right now, I'm trying to determine if it's my system, my graphics card needing a new driver, my version of the game (Steam download vs. disk install) or maybe just how I play. My system plays Portal, Left4Dead just fine. I lose server connection on Team Fortress2 a lot, but I blame that on the servers.
I'm not blaming the glitches on Obsidian or Bethesda. These things happen. It's a game. It's a new game. It's gonna glitch. I'm thrilled some people are not having problems, like my Mom who at 46 fell in love with Fallout 3,Call of Duty and Crysis, and Quake, but some of us are having glitches and some of these are major. I have faith they'll be fixed in time.

Now if I can just get steam to stop having connection issues so I can play. My version of steam is set in online mode (Mom's computer is set offline since we share the same steam account), and it's telling me it cannot connect to steam due to my internet (Working fine) or the steam network. I really wish they would update their main page with statuses of the network. I can't seem to find anything that says if it's down or not and I'd like to play. :nuke:

Edit: Oh yeah, there was a small problem earlier. Mom had been playing for a few hours, and then I started to play. She had only been using the Autosave at that point and my Autosave overrid hers. Once the first patch was release, the one that disabled steam cloud, the over-ride never appeared again so I can only assume that was part of the saving glitches the SteamCloud Disable patch fixed.

I've been reminding her to save often and to make multiple saves since. ^^; She's learning.

Only bugs I've had are:

PS3:
During "I Put A Spell On You"
Random crashes to PS3 menu (XMB) (is this a CTX? CTC? CTM?)

PC:
After wearing http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/NCR_Ranger_patrol_armor, two-handed guns are holstered backwards (gun barrel facing up) on all outfits, like on Power Armour.





[offtopic] Papillon3598, you have a cool mom.

Short answer: no. I do not think that people are making up bugs.

I have experienced nearly every type of bug/glitch that has been described on these forums, from lowly subterranean radscorpions to brief freezes, full lockups and all manner of quest and NPC-related glitches. I've not been prevented from proceeding with the main storyline, to date, but there is one quest in my log as I type this that I cannot complete due to missing NPC response(s).

I am at least grateful that I have missed out on the catastrophic freezes that prevent me from entering certain locations... so far.

I can deal with the missing rock textures like by the vacation place, the furthest south east on the map, where you can actually go inside the mountain through a missing texture and walk around underneath the game world. I can deal with un killable scorpions that are stuck and won't attack back (even though its aggravating when my companions stay there shooting at it non-stop). I can deal with many NPC glitches and lag. I can deal with alot of bugs in a sandbox style game this huge with so many missions.

What I can't deal with are the quest errors, like doing all 4 missions for papa khan including going into the quarry and using up all my ammo and stimpacks only to get back, initiate an argument with the legion ambassador like I was told and then have no way of ending the quest, I have to go back to saves and use trial and error on some missions trying different sequences in order to complete it.

And the thing that is absolutely killing this game for me is the freezing. I play on my PS3 and every couple hours and sometimes less, the game freezes requiring a hard reboot of my ps3. Its hard to get into the story whilst having the anxiety that the game could freeze at any time and waste all that I had done. When you wonder the wastes there are not alot of autosave points and you get so into what you're doing you forget to save every few minutes or so and lose an hours work. I'm embarrassed to admit that since this game has came out I've played close to a hundred hours already, In that time I've had at least 30 freezes. This game is AWESOME, I loved fallout 3 (even with its glitches), I loved elder scrolls (even it had glitches) but new vegas has been by far the glitchiest game I've ever played.

I've found myself checking for the PS3 update 2 or 3 times a day, I don't know if I should be looking forward too it considering none of the other game updates ever completely fixed the glitches

if you think people are making them up, you might want to check this
http://www.pcworld.com/article/208167/does_fallout_new_vegas_jump_the_cockroach.html/

ah no. there are several bugs. ones that make the game impossible to play (currently im unable to lock pick or use terminals in any way) that need to be fixed. there is a train station near the boomers that doesn't have solid ground so i fall through the floor every time i get close to where i want to be. i would point out the exact spot on the map but the game just froze and i just turned it off.

ive got the 360 version and have encountered many bugs from glare glitching to terminals crashing the game forcing a restart

I find the accusation that these bugs are "fake" or "made up" absolutely absurd. People have better things to do dude, even no lifers don't pretend to make up bugs about a video game.

I love New Vegas like a junkie loves his poison but the amount of bugs is UNACCEPTABLE. I have just lost a 42 hour save due to the save corruption bug (Don't say keep multiple saves, I kept FIVE and all were corrupt. They were all spaced about a hour apart too.) so obviously I feel like I've been sold a faulty product.

People have the right to complain when they pay such a huge amount of money for this (Cost me $108 Australian. That is a LOT of money to me and to lots of other people too.. not everyone is rich or even well off) and it's broken as all hell. It really is.

I just hope they hurry up with the patches as numerous review websites that said they were going to wait for the game to be patched before reviewing it have simply given up and just reviewed it in the state it is in now, calling it the buggiest game of the decade on a certain big name website too.

I havn't had that many bugs, my main one is the autosave and quicksaves going back to the very first of each made whenever i restart the game, that combined with a CTD is very annoying. Luckily i havn't had many CTDs. I've also had a few glitches like someone walking through stairs instead of up them, and a lady with a knife "holstered" into her kidneys instead of at her side. It was actually kinda funny to see this lady with a knife sticking out of her side but when i reloaded later it was holstered normally so it was just a quick glitch. If they fix the autosave and quicksaves not savining properly ill be set I think the reason i don't get bugs is because i don't play for 8 hours straight, i only play an hour or two at a time. If i was playing for 8 hours straight i'd expect it to blow up in my face sooner or later.

I think if you read through the thread you will find that almost nobody here thinks anyone is making up anything.

Folks are supposed to complain about bugs here in hopes devs can read all about it and fix the problems.

I found heaps of glitches, a few bugs here and there but most of those a fairly minor and don't really bother me. The one that is a game breaker though is the constant dumping to a white screen or out right crashing to desktop every 10 to 30 minutes. I know I'm not the only one having this issue either. I've listed it in the Bugs List and hope that it gets addressed soon because if it's still happening after a couple of weeks I'll just take the game back and get a refund. Yelling and screaming at a developer or publisher isn't going to achieve much, try report this stuff so that there's at least a chance that it can be fixed. If it isn't done in a fashion acceptable to you then just take the product back for a refund.

You got me.

I can't finish Raul's sidequest because Raul just doesn't like me.

Arcade won't rejoin me after his sidequest because he hates me.

The monorail blows up even though I defuse it because the monorail detests me and would rather blow up than be around me.

New patch completely breaks the game on PS3/PC (not on 360 yet) and causes it to freeze within 15 minutes of loading a save.

This has to be the biggest joke in video game history besides Duke Nukem Forever

I've got over 30 hours in and I'm still on the first play through. I've encountered very few bugs so far.
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I did get the steam crash that borked saves but by the time I went to play again there was a patch and I hard save often so I did not lose even an hours playtime.

I saw a BarkScorpion stuck in the road.. once.

I saw an odd squished mesh looking something... once.

After talking to a good number of NPCs to forward a quest a friendly faction suddenly started shooting Ed-E (Annoying)

Boone does not seem to stay passive. I heard it was coding that on passive they still attack once I'm spotted but I'd prefer they stayed passive till I shot. Easier to manage where they are, since I'm on hardcoe.
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I've been playing PC games since floppy disc, no game has ever been bug free. I'm more put off by companias that alow their games to stay buggy. I mean was Walter in FO3 EVER fixed??? I knew there would be some problems and I knew the company's track record before I bought it, that is why I buy PC. Hopefully with as popular as FallOut has become they will be better this time around with continued support... but so far this game doesn't seem to have any more problems then any other.

Dear Skullkandy,

Thank you for creating a brand new account on these lovely forums to post how everyone here is lying or making up stuff. However, I must disappoint you in that there is no 'major conspiracy' going on as you seem to be freaking out about.

I have been here for a while, since a little after Fallout 3, helping out users here and there and mostly active on the fanfiction/roleplaying threads, yet never really finding myself having to voice my opinion about a game issue before. This thread declares that I must, as I have experience major bugs throughout the game since the "patch," and I am on the Xbox 360 as well.

So far my bugs have been...

- Dozens of texture issues (minor complaint)
- A few cases of npcs / plot critical NPCS / companions being stuck through the ground / walls (minor complaint)
- Three cases of myself being stuck in the ground / walls (minor complaint)
- Game "lags" in Black Mountain, then crashes near the top, multiple times in a row (complaint)
- Two cases of my game just randomly locks up during a load and erases my save (major complaint)

As you can see, these are not "to be expected." Textures, lag, and even an occasional stuck NPC is fine by me, but when the game absolutely prevents me from being able to enter certain areas or face a crash, then we have a problem. Same with it every hour or so locking up and forcing a restart that has sometimes made a corrupt file. And before you begin to call conspiracy as well on to me, I have been playing many new games recently without a hitch, and sometimes pop on a new game in between Fallout NV as "breaks" and never get an issue. This game is no "a-okay," my friend. I love Fallout, I love the people who make it, and I absolutely love the story behind it. But this is inexcusable. I refuse to even advance my game from time to time due to this horribly buggy game.

Before people cry foul, I still love the game, and am willing to give Obsiden time to fix their new creation, but my patience wears thin with such blatant, game-breaking errors that plague many, and even more annoying, a community so blinded by devotion to ignore a critical issue with the game. Wake up, my friends. This is not a time to assault one another on the forums, but to provide data and accurate (and not claiming everyone's "making up" stuff just because you don't see it) accounts that allow the developers to fix the game appropriately and in a timely fashion.

Thank you for your time in reading this post. You may have your soapbox back now.

Regards,

Sergeant Gutsy

EDIT: Hm, some quotes are ineffective after post-reading. Removed and corrected.

I agree, over blown bugs my aunt fanny, if the game worked for me I wouldnt be sitting here bored off my a$$. Trying to find something to play while these issues are being looked into by the companies. I have played Bethesda's games since Morrowind and never had broken quests and stuttering graphics. There are alot of things I love about the game. I think its a bit small but I still want to play. If they put FONV's gameplay style with the size of FO3 I would love it. I might be old school but I like a game that will last more then a week. I love exploring and crafting as much as the combat and that to me makes an RPG fit together.

The reason your seeing it on the forums so much is, well, because that's essentially what these forums are for. For every 100th person (random estimate), there's going to be 1 with a problem, and this is where they come to complain. Also, the reason the majority of people are having problems with the PC version is because not everybody has the same exact pc. The game will act differently and there's no way to predict how it will act on hundreds of thousands of different setups.

I'm also somebody who hasn't experienced many glitches at all, but I don't really think anybodies just making it up, that would be absurd. Also there's a bunch of videos on youtube showing many of these glitches.

Hardly a clueless idiot here, and I frankly enjoy gaming on the console because I don't have to worry near as much about if a game is going to run or getting it to run.
In fact I'm not having any real problems with New Vegas...so maybe you should consider playing it on a console.
...And nevermind the fact that most computer repair shop clients can't copy/paste.

I,ve been trying to tell people its the problems with their PC and not with the game.coz of the game itself was buggy, the other players would also be experiencing it, Now Bethesda will have to work on making the game compatible with Numerous combination of PC's coz of the amount of players whining and not self introspecting their PC's.

My friend baught the game and had the same problem, he started ranting about Bethesda until i upgraded his graphic drivers, updated windows to sp3(don;t know if there r any issues there) and changed the AMD processer to an Intel one after which everything in the game started working smoothly and his whining stopped.

In a word, no. There have been many bugs in the game so far that a lot of people have already mentioned (enemies appearing in solid rock, people falling out of the sky) but there has been nothing to make the game unplayable until now. The gate to New Vegas now needs a key for some stupid reason and i'm going to have to use the console to make it open itself somehow so I can get my damn power armor back.

Whiners?, the word you were actually looking for is feedback, the devs have a free resource in the form of people who play the game fully and not just beta testing, this feedback is very helpful to devs, I'm playing on pc and the game is unstable, I had to find work arounds for several things to continue playing, biggest example was after speaking with ranger grant, the screen fades as normal then it crashes to desktop, the only work around I could find was to wait in increments of one hour until 12 hours had passed before speaking to grant, this is a major bug, should we not report it?

Others have mentioned creatures stuck in the terrain, I've seen this a lot, should we not report this here?, some side quests can easily be broken if you go out of step, should we not report that?

Your defence of the game and the devs is admirable but misguided.

My game has froze about 4-5 times making me to restart my xbox to continue playing, and some just plain froze and i was able to continue. Also that when walking or running in the game i've noticed that it has glitched out alot on me.

My point is the game is not buggy at all the game is less compatible with many configuration of PC's than other games would be, the fact that i don't face those kind of bugs only prove those bugs don't exists in my game, and i honestly don't think our two copies of New Vegas where coded differently.. My suspect is a certian hardware or software which is widely used is not compatible with the game. I have found AMD processors have a problem with the game..

I actually never had any problems with Fallout 3, not even when I used mods later on to make the game more fun. To say that "It's your PC" when people are reporting the same bugs on the Xbox 360, PS3, and the PC is just plain stupid.

I have read a lot of different posts that all have the same basic problems that my version has across all versions of the game, like when your character starts rubberbanding, enemies/npcs getting spawned inside of rocks and the dreaded New Vegas gate bug.