who else think people are making up the "bugs?"

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:20 pm

I don't think people are making bugs up, but some people are way too focused on their own anger and a few people have started to make ridiculous claims.

One guy wanted "24 hour live support".

A few people were complaining that there wasn't a patch like 7 hours after the game had been released.

People expect too much for $60, hard earned or not. It's just a game.

Yep, that's where I am.

Very few people have patience anymore. Instant gratification seems to be demanded now.

I bought a brand new truck a few years back and was pretty upset when after 100 miles it stopped running in the middle of an intersection. But they fixed it and I had to wait two weeks to get my car back.

Here, we have the game we paid for, one patch has already been released, they have told us they are working on more patches and have been forthcoming with posting to let us know that. I am satisfied they will fix the problems that can be fixed. They may not get every last one of them, but they will get the important ones.

And with the size of this game, we had to all know there would be some problems.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:23 am

I admit now that I don't have a copy of the game yet (Europe release is tomorrow, yay!) but as a PS3 user I could count the number of freezes on one hand in my first 200 hrs of play of Fallout. I think that's pretty good. In fact its only when I installed the DLCs that the problems start appearing, but even then it was perfectly playable, but it became much more annoying.

I doubt anyone would make up bug reports. In fact, every review I've read of New Vegas reports bugs of some kind. Some make a big thing of it, some don't. But all love the game's huge content and well crafted storylines. I'm sure I will too, and I'm looking forward to it a lot. :tops:

As New Vegas uses the same game engine as F3, its a bit disappointing to hear that the common bugs (framerate, freezing etc) haven't been dealt with. If its the same engine then it shouldn't be unreasonable to expect it to be more stable than the last time around, not the same, or worse. Anyway, I'll reserve judgement until I see for myself.

As I wasn't around at the time...what was the early day release of Fallout 3 like? The same as New Vegas? Better? Worse? I'd be interested to hear your views as to how it compares.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:42 am

Anyone else think that people are exaggerating, or even flat out making up all these stories of bugs and glitches just to have something to whine about? Not a single person I've actually talked to in real life has had any problems whatsoever with the game. The only people i've seen claim it was a buggy piece of trash are forum warriors.

My xbox was on for 20 hours straight playing the game and I encountered one single glitch the whole time which was to be expected when leaving the console on that long and is not an issue with the game.

The other thing I noticed is almost every one of the whiners bought the game of steam....well what do you expect when you buy a game from a distributor that hacks up the code and rearranges the file structure to make a piece of software proprietary to their client. This isn't the fault of the developer, it's your fault for not buying from a distributor that gives you the game in the state it was originally programmed.


Yeah dude, Im making up the crashes. Oh, and the companions getting stuck and refusing to follow you, and the scorpions CONSTANTLY sinking into the ground. Oh, lets not forget the part where even though I have a 65 repair skill, AND all the parts, I STILL can't activate E-DE. Or maybe the part where 10mm pistols glitch out when modded? No? Ok, heres one for size, when I look at NPC's the framrate drops to like 15fps, I have to use a 3rd party .dll just to play the game.

Obviously, we are making this up. As for the wrong platform? Say what? Both original Fallouts never even went to consoles.

Also, so many people wouldn't be forum warriors if they COULD PLAY THE GAME.

I however can, and will, and I love it. Hats off to Obsidian! (Now patch the damn game.)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:01 am

Good to see that a lot of people's games are running fine; or at least no worse than vanilla FO3 did. I tend to not get many bugs either on my games so I'm hoping I'll also fall into the lucky category.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:49 pm

Anyone else think that people are exaggerating, or even flat out making up all these stories of bugs and glitches just to have something to whine about? Not a single person I've actually talked to in real life has had any problems whatsoever with the game. The only people i've seen claim it was a buggy piece of trash are forum warriors.

My xbox was on for 20 hours straight playing the game and I encountered one single glitch the whole time which was to be expected when leaving the console on that long and is not an issue with the game.

The other thing I noticed is almost every one of the whiners bought the game of steam....well what do you expect when you buy a game from a distributor that hacks up the code and rearranges the file structure to make a piece of software proprietary to their client. This isn't the fault of the developer, it's your fault for not buying from a distributor that gives you the game in the state it was originally programmed.




Im on PS3 and have had nothing but issues, even now as i type this. Im sitting outside the gate to new vegas and veronica is crying about her limbs. Thats all good and great, except for the fact that i left her at the brotherhood. So let me tell you, these bugs are real.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:51 pm

Im on PS3 and have had nothing but issues, even now as i type this. Im sitting outside the gate to new vegas and veronica is crying about her limbs. Thats all good and great, except for the fact that i left her at the brotherhood. So let me tell you, these bugs are real.




Keeps getting better, I just went to the lucky 38 and victor the robot says, I see you brought a friend with you. hjahaha Really? Cause I dont see her!
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:04 am

1) saves are [censored]
2) Radio stations do not work right, some play the voices some don't. None play music, some just make loud clicking noises.
3) Game enjoys crashing during loads.

Game is super buggy for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:41 pm

Anyone else think that people are exaggerating, or even flat out making up all these stories of bugs and glitches just to have something to whine about? Not a single person I've actually talked to in real life has had any problems whatsoever with the game. The only people i've seen claim it was a buggy piece of trash are forum warriors.

My xbox was on for 20 hours straight playing the game and I encountered one single glitch the whole time which was to be expected when leaving the console on that long and is not an issue with the game.

The other thing I noticed is almost every one of the whiners bought the game of steam....well what do you expect when you buy a game from a distributor that hacks up the code and rearranges the file structure to make a piece of software proprietary to their client. This isn't the fault of the developer, it's your fault for not buying from a distributor that gives you the game in the state it was originally programmed.


I haven't had a problem with the game at all.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:03 am

1) saves are [censored]
2) Radio stations do not work right, some play the voices some don't. None play music, some just make loud clicking noises.
3) Game enjoys crashing during loads.

Game is super buggy for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:36 am

I haven't had a game ending bug since Daggerfall. Ive already had to restart a character twice in New Vegas and that's with only 12 hours put in. Obsidian should of let Beth test their final product.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:46 pm

who else think people are making up the "bugs?"


Why? (and to what end? All would rather be absorbed in the game if they could; not venting frustration on the game forum.)

I have not played enough to encounter the more serious bugs mentioned, but my first encounter with Powder Gangers had one of them peeking his head & shoulders out of a stone boulder the size of a car. He tried to toss dynamite my way but it hit the boulder and blew him to bits.

My encounter in Greensprings had an unfaded translucent head still stuck to the wall by a spear when I exited a building into the outdoors... moments later the regular (solid) head was floating just about where I remembered the victim had stood when killed ~about 8 minutes before; long after he'd been killed and I'd entered and exited a town building.

Most of this will get fixed in the coming week(s).
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:34 pm

I'm playing on the PS3, and my game locked up on me during the tutorial with Sunny Smiles, completely froze within an hour of unwrapping the game...

So no, I have NO reason to doubt that peoples bug reports are correct and truthful.

Also, Bethesda's customer support is terrible. I wrote them a detail email on the problem, and received a copy + paste response that didn't even address the problem I encountered.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:08 am

+1 How is it being a PC gamer, ALL of my other games work fine, including Oblivion and FO3? Yet NV is a stuttering unplayable turd? It must be that I am a clueless idiot that should just game on a console using 4-5 year old technology? Never mind the fact that I have my own computer repair shop, with thousands of (happy) clients...


I myself am a hardcoe PC gamer, and I got the PS3 version to avoid any hassle. The damn game is broken, PC and otherwise. It's not your computer, and it's not my PS3. And I'm willing to bet that apart from the save corruption issue, it's not Steam's fault either.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:08 am

Being completely honest, I have experienced a multitude of glitches BUT none of them are game breaking by any means.

mines hidden in the ground, my companion getting stuck in rocks (just fast travel to solve that one), bodies flying into the horizon after I kill them, their limbs stretching like gumby.

The worst bug I have come across so far is, lets see how I can do this without spoilers... In the city connected to New Vegas, in a certain questline, you are given a quiz to get a password. On the last question, the guy said I was wrong no matter what answer I picked. The only way to get it at that pont was to either have 60 speech skill, or to outright kill him, which gained me infamy for the faction I'm siding with. Annoying, but certainly not game breaking.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:24 pm

I've had glitches but they were no where near game breaking problems. Companions getting stuck is my only real problem.
I personally think a lot of "bugs" are user error. Here's an example

I went to talk to Kaiser but Boone kept going hostile every time I go to the CL base is this a bug?

You catch my drift :disguise:
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:49 pm

I just figures with Obsidian returning to Fallout and with their track record of buggy games, that Obsidian would of went out of their way to test this game. I see the same problems that were in the Best Buy game play video that are in the game in front of me. Great game, technically better than 3, but Obsidian is still the "Bug Devs" to me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:11 am

It is just luck of the draw when it comes to bugs. I've noticed a lot of the PC players whining about bugs are shall we say less than technically inclined.

You have to remember when you see all the youtube videos and rant threads that for every bugged player there are thousands of people who are enjoying the game with little or no problems.


You have to be careful about youtube also because some of the clips are from non-final versions of the game that were torrented.

I'm not saying the game is not buggy, I don't know i've played only a few hours and had no problems yet is all I know for sure. Take a peak at this page that was out before the game where a dev talks about the spinning head bug that was fixed before the game was released. I wonder what version of the game the youtube guy is playing.

http://techland.com/2010/10/18/the-bergman-files-five-funny-bugs-eradicated-from-fallout-new-vegas/
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:08 pm

I'm sure some people are making up bugs, it's just in some people's nature to do bs like that. But for the most part I think that people are probably telling the truth. I haven't had too many bugs myself, other than people/bodies getting stuck in the floor/ceiling/wall, but I have had 2 lock ups and I only got the game yesterday. But this kind of stuff happens all the time with any game that attempts to approach the size of FO:NV, Red Dead Redemption for example, I never saw a single glitch in my whole experience with that game, but my stepbrother (on 360, mine is PS3, as is my New Vegas) had glitch after glitch, flying people, flying deer, rocket stagecoaches flying into the air, chariots flipping upside down when he gets in, you name it. Theres some pretty hilarious youtube videos of that stuff if your interested in seeing it, but I never experienced it myself.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:53 pm

do I need to call you guys the waahmbulance?

If you're having problems with the game here are your solutions.

1) fix your system.
2) don't buy games off steam

Steam is not the issue, and anyone playing FO3 on PC without it is gunna get in trouble if they admit it
3) stop exaggerating

Which fixes the problem, How?
notice how those are all your own fault.

Number 2 is definately not the users fault.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:47 am

This really isn't a bug but try going in camp guardian underwater caves. :rofl: Unless Obsidian plans to add scuba gear then that cave is useless!!! The time you get in there you don't even have enough air and you're surrounded by darkness and the Pip Boy flashlight don't even work when you first enter. I almost made it to the surface inside the cave but if you cant see when you first get inside the cave then you're dead.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:23 pm

what would be the incentive to post a false bug? surely time spent posting a false bug would be taken up playing the game instead?

also i think someone should make a thread with poll options=
Console player with buggy game
pc player with buggy game
console player with non buggy game
pc player with non buggy game

I would be interested to see the results.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:02 am

I had the game freeze completely once when I was in VATS, and a couple of times I was stuck in it for a while as it played out really slow.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:29 am

...because sometimes I just want to be lazy and lounge on a couch playing on a 50 inch screen which I can't do on the pc.


I can do that with FNV on my 40" with a 360 controller. I lay in my bed though. :P Any GFW game is like having both the PC (Mod-able.) and 360 (Controller) all in one. I needed a 15' HDMI cable to do it but it works.

I have had the game crash and freeze about 6 times. 4 of the freezes "fixed" themselves after a minimize then maximizing the game again. One wouldn't maximize again. The last was a straight up CTD.

I've also had the NPC FPS issue, but the "dll fix" fixed that. (Hey look, Pete Hines is on EP Daily for NV. :) Anyway....back on track.)

I've seen things stuck in rocks/underground.

I think that's it for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:40 am

Anyone else think that people are exaggerating, or even flat out making up all these stories of bugs and glitches just to have something to whine about? Not a single person I've actually talked to in real life has had any problems whatsoever with the game. The only people i've seen claim it was a buggy piece of trash are forum warriors.

My xbox was on for 20 hours straight playing the game and I encountered one single glitch the whole time which was to be expected when leaving the console on that long and is not an issue with the game.

The other thing I noticed is almost every one of the whiners bought the game of steam....well what do you expect when you buy a game from a distributor that hacks up the code and rearranges the file structure to make a piece of software proprietary to their client. This isn't the fault of the developer, it's your fault for not buying from a distributor that gives you the game in the state it was originally programmed.



http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/falloutnewvegas/review.html?tag=topslot%3Bimg%3B1&page=2 is probably making up all the bugs too.
"Unfortunately, Fallout: New Vegas isn't technically capable of supporting these high ambitions. Simply put, it frequently breaks in some of the most phenomenal ways. You can't mention any given aspect of its design without also mentioning a related bug--and the more you explore and the more you do, the more the game buckles under its own weight. Your companion may not initiate a conversation with her elder, forcing you to reload a saved game or ignore the quest. A mutant for hire will respond to your request to continue the quest with the same dialogue that he delivers if you tell him you need more time. Scripting errors abound in which things that are supposed to happen never do, while in many other cases, inexplicable events occur that will boggle your mind. Locals will freak out and run around as if someone is brandishing a weapon and then stop and walk back to their assigned positions. A vendor might attack you unprovoked, even if you have a golden reputation in that town and are dressed in neutral clothing. Sometimes, it's unclear if you're unaware of a contributing factor or if the game is simply going bonkers. Not to mention frequent crashes on both consoles and corrupted game saves, which might cause you to lose progress. In addition, the longer you play, the slower the frame rate gets (on the Xbox 360), or the more noticeable the screen tearing and frequent pauses become (on the PlayStation 3). These are but a small number of the major bugs we encountered. Fallout: New Vegas is a technical mess."

You can think we all have nothing better to do than lie to strangers about our problems if you want, but that doesn't make it true.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:52 am

I have had similar experiances
I know many people who own F:NV on all three systems
and out of all of them they have experianced a grand total of
0 crashes
few FPS drops
and a low amount of small glitches (NPCs in rocks ect)
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