Just because some people haven't experience any bugs yet don't mean they will be free from them. My characters level 12 and I've pretty much explored the entire wasteland. When you first start out and the few hours of gameplay well seem bug free especially Goodspings and a few other locations near it. It's after a while of traveling the wasteland that you'll run into bugs which probably has something to do with the system cache because I never notice anything odd happen if I restart my PS3 or start a new game. Is it just me or do hostile NPC's you find in buildings stay inside the buildings when you run outside? They never follow me out the door like they did on FO3.

It's a conspiracy.

I don't make things up. Especially not about games and their bugs. In one of my posts I talked about the teleporting old lady and her dogs/molerats. I took a picture of her in her invisible chair with my phone. So HA! Still was funny as hell.

The only issue I had was when I made the mistake of signing steam in online mode and lost 3 hours of work and yet every time I hear someone mention someone experiencing a bug I believe them because... well they're not making it up, sure you do get people who dislike and possibly even hate games who have nothing else to do then scare people who enjoy it however not experiencing a bug doesn't in anyway mean they don't exist

I've not run into any quest breaking bugs, just some minor gamebryo crap that was also in fallout 3 and oblivion.

I don't know what's up, because honestly even with say Red Dead Redemption on PS3 I only experienced one bug, in multiplayer. I haven't had ANY with this, my mate at school filmed a bunch of glitches while playing on his X-Box 360, and most of the complaints about bugs are coming from PC/X-Box 360 users. IMHO, the PS3 has the least bugs of the 3 platforms, from what I've read, seen and heard.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've been running into quite a few bugs since release.

It is a little annoying, but it doesn't fully wreck my love for this game so far. I do hope they try to patch things up though.

First off, I think the most major bugs are affecting the PC version, which is expected to some extent at launch. To claim people are making things up is ridiculous.What would that prove? I have a very high end PC(Phenom 965 @3.6 GHz GTX 470 8 GB ram Creative X-Fi) and have never had problems like I am with this game. Sound problems, no radio music, random crashes. It is unplayable at least for me. I don't think it's whining to expect a product you purchase to work. The developers treat PC gamers like beta testers not consumers. Sure they will resolve the issues eventually, but they should not release a game if it is not ready to go. FYI I bought the game from a retailer, not through steam.

First off, I think the most major bugs are affecting the PC version, which is expected to some extent at launch. To claim people are making things up is ridiculous.What would that prove? I have a very high end PC(Phenom 965 @3.6 GHz GTX 470 8 GB ram Creative X-Fi) and have never had problems like I am with this game. Sound problems, no radio music, random crashes. It is unplayable at least for me. I don't think it's whining to expect a product you purchase to work. The developers treat PC gamers like beta testers not consumers. Sure they will resolve the issues eventually, but they should not release a game if it is not ready to go. FYI I bought the game from a retailer, not through steam.

I don't think people are making up the bugs. I mean, maybe a couple, but for the most part, no. I don't think people are reacting to them reasonably, though. Maybe it's because I've been a gamer for a looong time and I've seem many releases that were worse than this...I dunno. I do know what it's like to get a game you were looking forward to and then be really disappointed and angry when you can't run it or it doesn't run well. I was pretty red-faced for a few minutes when I got Mass Effect 2 and it wouldn't even install correctly. I just walked away, grabbed a beer, and calmed down. It's not the end of the world. I got it to install a couple of days later...turns out the installer puked under certain circumstances on machines with more than one DVD drive, and with some fiddling I was able to work around it.

For people that can't run the game at all it's a big let-down. I've been in that position a few times, but not recently. Luckily, these issues will be fixed. If you look back at the release of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 crashes and being unable to run the game were REALLY common when those games were first released. Netimmerse/Gamebryo seems like a really picky engine...it doesn't seem like it takes much to pull the rug out from under it.

So far the only bugs I've seen have simple workarounds, but I don't doubt people having other (more difficult) issues. This is a high-profile game release, though, so I really doubt Bethesda is going to drag their feet on getting things fixed. In the meantime, it stinks for some of us, but there's no use in giving yourself a heart-attack over it.

I read this thread, and at first I was going to Herp, but I think I'll just go with Derp.

I witnessed the great anti-Zinimax/Bethesda/Obsidian conspiracy of October 2010!

This is a minor collision issue, but thought I would pass this along. I searched this thread but didn't see this one. Vault 11's door works, the player is able to close the door from the switch right next to the door -- the animation sequence will complete. However, it is possible to walk right through the door.

I've also seen a situation with Camp Guardian Caves in that the Pip-Boy map disappears. The screen seem to be really dark -- probably owing to it being a cave, but usually that doesn't affect mapping...

I personally have run into multiple bugs, whether it be freezing during the loading screen or random enemy bugs (death-claw running underwater lol) none of which were game-breaking... until yesterday, while going into vault 34 (i think) getting the piece for the auto surgeon thing. i died, which was no biggie just gonna reload my auto-save, and guess what it tells me, "This game relies on download content that is no longer available. some objects may no longer be available. Continue loading? [yes] [no] " if i click yes or no it shows this: "the storage device you selected is no longer available. load canceled" then brings me to intro screen. now this has effected most of my files on my game, i was 12 hours into it and the last save i had that actually works is 6 hours before. This made me want to throw my controller at my t.v. lol. i immediately shut of my xbox, turned it back on and did everything in my power to fix this, via: deleting it off my hard drive, deleting the patch, reloading it SEVERAL times. i can and will post pictures of this screen on photobucket if you really want proof of this....

The bugs aren't fake. I have a launch PS3 and I've had complete lock ups a few times. I find if I just restart the PS3 about four hours into a marathon session or anytime the frame rate begins to crawl it runs well again. That's nothing compared to what some folks are going through though. People on all platforms are having complete lock up problems. Anecdotally it seems PCs and Xboxes are taking the brunt of the blow though. But if you want check the veracity of all these claims just go to YouTube. Or just look at the fact that Bethesda is already sending out patches.

Let me list a few of the bugs I have encountered on the Xbox 360.

-People randomly become hostile toward ED-E in multiple locations across the map. (Especially Primm)
-Crashes about every 2 hours
-Ants have problems climbing hills. They will flip around then finally straighten out over about 10 seconds. I have seen this at least 5 times.
-Invulnerable NPCs. Geckos twice and one radscorpion. Bullets go straight through but they won't attack you either.
-Bullets will go straight through opponents at times. I tested this one drastically, once sneaking with a stealth boy up behind a nightkin (less than 5 feet, no crippled limbs, zoomed shot from crouch position) and firing a hunting rifle into his back, only to have him turn around and smack my face. Yes, he received no damage.
-Companions "destroy" certain items. Give Bonne his beret he gave you and watch it disappear (Maybe only if he is wearing his?). Give ED-E almost any faction specific armor, it will disappear.
-Not sure if this is a bug, but I can't get Boone to become hostile towards me unless I get a poor rep with the NCR and then tell him he'd be better off dead. I will shoot him relentlessly and he will just stand there and take it.
-Certain unique weapons can have mods attached. Their model is them screwed up (I think because they don't have a model for the gun with a silencer or sight) and turns into a massive red box with an exclamation mark in the center.

Okay, that's more than a few, but you get the point. If you want me to add more I can.

I highly doubt people are making up bugs. We need to realize that videogames are highly complicated matters, these days - with many different variables. If you're playing the game and haven't run into anything, it doesn't mean that everyone else is having the same experience. And of course, likewise - if you are one of those experiencing game-breaking bugs, it doesn't mean that there aren't those that are able to run it just fine (as annoying as I know that can be - from personal experience...)

Come onto the forums and accuse dozens (if not more) of people of making up problems with the game when any rational person can see there is overwhelming evidence of bugs, I wonder why the mods haven't locked down this flamebait thread?

I bet the OP believes Elvis is still alive and it wouldn't surprise me if he thinks the sun orbits the earth.

and your being a flamer by bringing up a totally irrelevant topic, being: "I bet the OP believes Elvis is still alive and it wouldn't surprise me if he thinks the sun orbits the earth."

I know one thing for sure.. Some people are exaggerating the graveness of some bugs. Like calling a minor graphical glitch gamebreaking or something.

You have absolutely no understanding of how steam works. If what you say is true, why is Fallout: New Vegas magically the only buggy game on steam? Oh wait, you're just talking out of your ass because you hate steam for absolutely no reason. You rebel you.

I bought the game for PC, and I've experienced very few bugs, all of them minor.

im really thinking about trading in the game and waiting for the goty edition because by then most of the glitches should be patched....

I was only experiencing some minor glitches (and then not very often) before the first patch. After the first patch I hit gamebreaking glitches , just get a black screen when I try to enter the strip, now normally I would just run about the wastes mowing everything down in my path since my bloodlust can only be sated by hokers... but I'm stuck in the Ultra, so I won't be playing it until another patch is released and then begins the next round.

Only bugs I've had (on my PS3) were some lag and sometimes crashes during extended play, no ridiculous crazy-bad bugs.

The only glitches that I have had are things getting stuck in the dirt, and a single crash that I had for some odd reason.


And your attacks on Steam are unwarrented. Steam is, in my opinion, the best way to go for developers looking for a DRM. It is not invasive, and does not disable your computer setting/ability to burn CDs like other DRMs do. (SecuROM comes to mind.)

Seriously though. I am glad that it is on Steam. I don't have to worry about losing/scratching a disk, or what happened to my Fallout 3. I went to play it the other week, and discovered that Fallout Mod Manager no longer allows me to launch without the disk, as some game that I bought recently installed a version of SecuROM that disabled that ability. Since my FO3 disk was in storage, I wasn't able to play Fallout, and haven't played it until I got NV.

I play on xbox also, but i have had glitches and other problems... albiet none of them gamebreaking... iv had it freeze on my like 5 times since i got it, a few of those where like 10 mins in so it wasnt because my xbox was on for a while. there are some collision detection problems with some of the creatures being halfway in rocks and such. Also some framerate issues because devs put tooooooo many NPCs on the screen in certain spots. Again none of this was gamebreaking for me and overall im really enjoying the game. Not to say it couldnt be better, but it could definitley be alot worse (which im grateful its not)