Strategy games are my favourite genre and of that I think the Civilization series is my favourite of all time, I'm not sure which Civ game I'd pick as the best though.

Unfortunately, no. Other have stolen my favor long before I discovered TES and I tend to be somewhat nostalgic and overly loyal.

Top Five:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

2. Final Fantasy Tactics

3. Morrowind

4. Civilization 3

5. Pokemon Blue Version

Oh man. You suddenly reminded me of SimCity, though I know they're not the same. I used to be such a big Maxis fan. As for strategy, I might as well throw in chess! And monopoly! It's how the young and old in my super-extended family bond together

I'm the opposite.

See, I agree that there are games out there that might do fewer things better... BioWare games have better stories. Hitman or Metal Gear games have better stealth. BioShock has better combat (well... we'll see how that goes once Skyrim comes out)... but NO GAME does so many things, so well, with such an open world that gives you full freedom to exist in that virtual world as you so choose.

That's why I can't comprehend how people say Oblivion was dumbed down, or Radiant AI svcks, cuz it's like okay show me a game that has more depth and complexity than Oblivion. Yea, there might be games that do certain aspects better, but those games are specifically focused on those gameplay mechanics. Elder Scrolls is an OPEN WORLD game full of choice to do whatever the hell you want, and build a character in your own vision. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing better in video games than a Bethesda game. Nothing else compares. As far as I'm concerned, Bethesda games are on a level all of their own and can't be compared to other games. They're just on another level.

i have to ask, if your Pic Taxi driver?

The TES series is one of my top favorites, but it's tied with two others. The Fallout series has me hooked, and my favorite game of all times was Final Fantasy VII. :\

Nope, Oblivion and Morrowind are my favourites.
Crash Bandicoot 3 comes close because of nostalgia though. :disguise:

Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Planescape Torment, GTA San Andrea, Little Big Adventure, Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Risen, Fable (1, not the sequels.), Borderlands, Dekaron, Sims, Postal 2, Starcraft, Warcraft 2, Skate 2, Brainbread, They Hunger, Dragon Age Origins, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3, Fallout Tactics, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Bioshock, Metro 2033, Saints Row 2, Saints Row, GTA IV, Dead Space, Red Faction Guerilla, Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Resident Evil 1, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Resident Evil Outbreak, Resident Evil Outbreak File #2, The Warriors.

I think that'll do.
Yeah I had fun with Oblivion but I love these games far more.
And Morrowind put a real dent on the TES series for me.
If Oblivion made me think the series overall was worth a 7/10 then Morrowind kicked it down to 4/10.

So TES for me is kinda meh, not that special really.
I only know of it cause of Fallout anyway.

Tied Only because I like spectacle hack and slash and Darksiders is amazing.

Wow... really??

Different strokes, obviously, but may I ask why you view Morrowind so low? Did you play it before or after Oblivion?

My top 5 at the moment
Equal first Oblivion and Fallout 3 (both are great games in there own right)
2.Dragon Age
3.Uncharted 1 and 2
4.Silent Hunter 3
5.Gran Turismo 5

this belongs in Elder Scrolls Series Discussion, but yes, TES is my favourite game series of all time. :tes:

Horrible combat system (dicerolls works in top down RPG's but in FPP it was a real horror), topic dialogue stacked and made me disgusted with talking to NPC's, the traveling was bland and boring and with no fast-travel and the slow walking speed I had no fun exploring, the dungeons were repetitive and bland, the characters suffered the same Oblivion syndrome where they all have random "fantasy" names that just ended up cluttered and had little personality to actually remain memorable, the whole menu system was irritating, I could barely cast any spells despite tagging a couple of schools as Major skills and much more.

If there is going to be a "learn by doing" system then I need to be able to actually do things so that my skill can raise.
I could never depend on any of my spells, only one that seemed consistent was the ring that was enchanted.
And the dice-rolls my Willis the DICE-ROLLS! I shot 50 arrows that DID hit an enemy and yet only 2 registered due to the dice-roll combat.
I don't mind dice-rolls in other games when it's top down, cause that means I only vaugely control the character, but when I "am" the character, looking through it's eyes, and I fire 50 arrows that I see with my own and characters eyes that hit the enemy and they don't register then it pisses me off.
How am I suppose to raise my Marksman skill if the arrows won't register?

And I know it's an older game, I'm fine with bad graphics, but when it has bad graphics, barely anything to do in the wilderness and the only way to travel is by Silt Striders to towns and by foot then it becomes tedious and boring.
Then we have that Bruce-awful kneeling down thing that happens in melee combat, I get it, getting knocked down to your knees is a nice feature, but when it happens with every other blow on a Berserker character then it just pisses me off.

I played it after Oblivion but this has nothing to do about it being an older game (except maybe the bland wilderness), I simply think Morrowind was a bad game overall.
Might have been great when it came out but it has certainly not aged well in my opinion.

So yeah, Morrowind was dreadful to me.
I gave it a try but there are so many flaws and bad design choices that I cannot continue with it.

After playing it I'm actually really surprised as to why people here hold it so highly.
I mean, Fallout 1 and 2 (this isn't biased) are different too, but their mechanics work.
Their dice-rolls work for it's TB/top down system, it's dialogue is rich and easy to handle, it's world is easy to learn how to travel and it doesn't take too long to actually get to the interesting places, the characters are memorable in names and personality it's menu systems were easy to handle and didn't all pop up at once.
Overall Fallout 1 and 2 worked for me, and I've played lots of older games and learned their mechanics really well and been able to enjoy them.
But Morrowind... I dunno, I just don't understand how so many can accept those flaws in Morrowind, maybe even like them.

But like you said, different strokes I guess.
Morrowind feels way too alien to me though.

My favorite game of all time is Rome: Total War. I have other games I'd rate above Morrowind (my fav TES) but it's certainly in my top ten list.

I know... But it's warmer in here :tongue:

Alundra, an old ps1 rpg has a very special place in my heart.

Far cry 2 is awesome too..

was NHL 12, get that tomorrow. then the only other game I want other than TES is saints row 3.

The Gothic series before Gothic 3.
Risen.

Pretty much, Piranha Bytes as a company has always managed to subtly hit that extra mile over Bethesda.

Gothic 1: Achieved "Radiant AI" far better than Bethesda did with Oblivion back in 2001. Bethesda is finally on par with PB NPC's with Skyrim.
Gothic 2 > Morrowind

Now, we're going to have to see if Skyrim will beat Risen 2! Muhahaha

1. Witcher 2. Great choose the lesser evil plot, full of twists, epic story and fights. Love the music and landscape.
2. Kotor II. Kreia, epic story. A very memorable game.
3. Fantasia Sango II. Full of twists and unique character development, large scale battles, one vs one duels, important NPCs you cry for when they die horribly. This game's in Cantonese/Madarin, so unfortunately most EU customers won't be able to play this game that I deem even better than Morrowind by a large margin. Only flaw is it's not open ended, more like Kotor II's slightly open ended but near end becomes linear.
4. Fantasia Sango IV. Same, but different storyline.
5. Morrowind. Open ended, when added with over 100 mods it becomes a great game. Lots of lore, and I've always questioned if I should kill Vivec.
6. Oblivion. Overall great game but cheesy NPCs and crap storyline.
7. Skies of Arcadia. Lots of fun with this game. Makes me want future games to be like this: normal NPC fights, flying battleships, unique creatures solo'ing armies.
8. Fallout 3. It's ok... just wasn't captivating, but it's still open ended.

oblivion is my fav game but i am thinking skyrim will top it

Fallout 1&2
Planescape: Torment
Arcanum
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
Deus Ex
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Risen
Fallout: New Vegas
The Witcher 2
The Witcher
Gothic 2
Gothic 3

...to mention few (and only listed RPG's/aRPG's there).

I've suddenly remembered the Mario games and Sonic games. And a really old doodad called Star Control, or UrQuan Masters as its freeware is called now. The idea of giant talking crystals was so crazy to me. My first exposure to 1950s style science fiction.

I think Skyrim will be my favourite RPG for a long time.
As much as I liked oblivion and morrowind, I've spent so many more 100s of hours playing FPS's and old crappy star wars games and final fantasy 12 (best rpg)

Hell no, dont get me wrong as I do enjoy the TES games however they are far from my favorite games of all time let alone being in my top 10 games of all time. As it stands I favor quality over quantity where the Elder Scrolls games seem to have a policy of favoring quantity over quality (except when it comes to voice actors in which case they offer neither).

Bah can't believe I forgot about that when I was coming up with my list. I've got the Star Control Collection sitting right next to me even, and still I forgot. I hope I can be forgiven.