Comic books must be challenging both for artists and authors. It must be difficult to pack as much meaning as possible into such a small unit of space.

To be honest, I wouldn't. Can't really say why, just that the notion doesn't excite me, it'd be similar to reading some player's account of how he did everything and so on, I think. Although, now that I think about it, maybe one set in the years or months leading up to the war would be interesting to read, content-wise, I'm enjoying reading the BL Horus Heresy books and that's just more background fluff for 40k. The quality of the writing though, eh, I'm expecting Kevin J Anderson quality if it were ever to see daylight. As in bad.

I think I feel the same way. These cover novels mayw ork better in a SiFi setting where radically new things might pop up, but Fallout is different. I think I would rather ahve a high quality PA work rather than the normal pulp cover of Fallout.

Seriously?

Some of my favorite writers and artists are graphic novelists or comic book artists. I have two seperate epic bookshelves in my house. On one you will find everything from nobel prize winners like Halldor Laxness to modern pulp like Haruki Murakami. You would, if you ever visited for a drink and a cigar, most likely be subjected to listening to me quote excitedly my favorite passages from The Rosy Crucifixion and The Brothers Karamzov, two of my most beloved books. And by god I must have been one of the most pretentious sweater-donning, brown pants-wearing literature student you'd have ever met in the early 00's.

On the other shelf though? You will find something different altogether. You'll find vinyl figures made by Jim Woodring and Charles Burns. You'll find beautiful tomes by Chris Ware. You'll get everything from the Pulitzer award winning Maus to modern pulp like 100 Bullets. You would, f you ever visited for a drink and a cigar, most likely be subjected to listening to me present excitedly my favorite panels of Black Hole and The Frank Book, two of my most beloved books........

You see what I'm getting at here? Of course they're a decent form of art and literature. And so much so they've become more and more recognized as such. Jeezus man, don't even get me started!

It was completely obvious how you would have responded...

I heard you talking about reading "The Watchmen" again.

Speaking of "The Watchmen" I am so happy Warner Bro's won its case against FOX for distribution rights. I would have been extremely sad if "The Watchmen" didn't come out.

By the way did you hear http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1075747/ is playing in an adaptation of Jonah Hex :shifty: With John Malcovitch as the Villain. This should be an interesting adventure.

Hey Vault Tec CEO:

I ransacked your office. I'm afraid I left quite the mess there, but it looks like you left in a hurry and aren't planning to come back. Good thing, though...I reset the traps.

I would like this made into a book even though it would a really really long book would like it would go into more depth about it. and the lore behind it would be even more awsome.

Well, My Prized Moose head better still be in place. I am able to sniff out traps with my trusty Dagger of Trap Finding... I have never tested it. Thanks for giving me something to test it on. I am sure this was some kind of test. My dagger is working already. Hmmmm... a big imprint on the wall where his Moose Head used to be know lays vacant> KKKKKJJJJJJJJAARRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTA...

But seriously...

what the heck is that about and you contributed nothing to my thread about the idea of a Comic or Novel. Unless that was a contribution and I completely failed at the innuendo...

just messing around, and i've posted several time in this thread.

Yes, I was messing around as well O.<

Hate to be a wet blanket, but I probably wouldn't. I mean, half the fun is making up an ending yourself.

I suppose for lore freaks, you could make up some Vault and tell the tale, but the thing I like about Fallout is that it's interactive.

This story has nothing to do with the Lone Wanderer...

It is more about the characters a player meets in the worlds. Like Sarah Lyon, Harold and Bob , Eulogy Jones, Antagonizer, and the other stories of people in the back ground. I understand people don't want to have a story written about their characters life. I just want some back ground history of what brought people to where they are in Fallout 3. The Lone Wanderer is our story to learn and play with as the game moves along for each one of us. I don't desire anything other then what ends up happening in the wasteland post or pre Lone Wanderer. Thank you for your vote and input

I can see the interest in that, but I think I'd prefer imagining my own stories for them. Take Sarah for example. What a life, growing up in BOS Talk about Army brat... She talks tough, but maybe she's not as tough as she appears. i actually followed her around for awhile, to see what she would do. I think that's more fun...to try to figure them out using in game resources, then to read about them.

There's trade-offs regardless of the medium, but I think it evens out overall. There's a lot of complications to arranging a bunch of panels to tell a cohesive story in a manner that's pleasing to the eye, but you have more tools at your disposal than straight fiction. But literature lets you tell things more at your own pace without being confined to such strict pacing requirements. Movies let you utilize sound and motion to tell your story, but there are far more variables to control and you're limited to what you can depict on-screen. (ie, if I need a character on the moon with an alien sidekick and a nifty spaceship - I can either just draw one or write about it in a novel - movies require building a set, using CG and other special effects, etc.)

There's a challenge any time you're limited in something, but that's also where a lot of creativity stems from. Working around limitations can provide a lot of motive for creative ways to depict something. With comics, the limited space encourages concise storytelling and making efficient use of every element. Often, that can make for a better story than you'd get if you weren't otherwise constrained.

Yeah, with Fallout I'd rather read about something unconnected to events of the games. It's a big world out there, and it's ripe with opportunity. Personally, the whole Vault thing could get a bit cliche - it could be interesting to explore in a novel, but it's just one way of doing things, too.

I'd still be interested in hearing about Lyons' trek across America, but that story could be told as well in DLC, or spin-offs. I think that might work well for a graphic novel, actually - because of the episodic nature of something like that.

Honestly, what I'd be most interested in seeing for Fallout would be an anthology. Gather a group of writers to put out some short stories set in the Wastes. This way it would also be not only about adding some background to the world, but would be primarily interesting in seeing what sort of twists the writers can bring with their own unique visions.

That's a very interesting point. I recall one of the classic compsers writing something similar...something like anyone can write music, but only a master can write music that follows the rules. I don't think I'd go that far, but I agree woth your comments, and the composer's gist.

An anthology would be great, if the right writers were involved. I wish we could dig up Edger Allen Poe. Could you imagine the stories he could write for Fallout, and he is from Baltimore MD which I think is fitting.

I think it all depends on what you mean by a "Fallout novel".

If you mean a novel that follows all the Fallout games religiously, no.
If you mean a novel based on the Fallout world, yes.

The other kicker would be if it had to follow canon exactly. If yes, then no. If no, then yes

Eileen

Look you should follow the rules that you put down for your Story. Fallout isn't Bethesda's story, yet I think they did a good job in not putting a ton of pop culture into the game like interplay did with Fallout 2. Now don't get me wrong Fallout 2 was fun and so was the 1st Fallout. Fallout 3 should have shown more to it then it did. I don't think the world would have stagnated for such a long time, but then there were the Dark Ages where the technology of ancient cultures were burned by Barbarian hordes. I am a Star Wars fan, I liked the Prequels and the originals, and I saw the Originals before the prequels too. I say this because These stories are born from the minds of those who tell them, they have the right to dictate where they take the stories, so in that way I believe you want them to piss off the solid fans. I don't want to see that happen, just like I didn't want to see it happen with Star Wars but enjoyed the films even if I had people telling me the films svcked and Jar-Jar Binks was lame and I thought the opposite. I do want them to at least stick to a guide line that Fallout 1 had because it was a great story, but it could have things added as long as they are added with respect. I don't care about people who think it should be one way or another, but what I do care about is seeing the stories that matter be told to us in completeness. I don't like angry people, but I don't think you can keep from stepping on everyone's toes at all times. Unlike yourself, I am not trying to piss people off. I want to inform people and be forthright in my doing so.

In closing, a story such as Alice in Wonderland meets Fallout would get people upset. Because it is not what the Fallout world is meant to be and even if it came from GURPS it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be uniformity to the storyline. The idea that you will not read a book unless it strays of canon is like saying you would like to see Alice from Wonderland in a Edger Allen Poe Short story. I think it is stupid and I will leave it at that, but if the story you put Alice in was in a different Wonderland and still had the same themes I don't think I would mind. For many people the pop culture in Fallout 2 was great because it tied it to present times, which couldn't be done in the first one because it was a GURPS game at first, until Steve Jackson took his name away from it. The beauty of Fallout 2 was that it was free to make fun of itself, and that element I loved. It had a great story and I would just like to see that the people in the stories had some impact, just like Young Anakin became Darth Vader and Darth's Death brought Redemption, I want to see how Harold is used in future Fallouts. If you don't like it, then I say you need to slap your self with a floppy piece of plastic, or find a better way to piss on peoples constructive thoughts.

[snipped big time for brevity and because no one should feel compelled to read that again. Leaving the next part in because it's just too funny to me.]



First of all, I was replying to the OP's poll post. The question was: "Who here would enjoy reading a Fallout Novel". I did not quote you or anything you wrote in this thread. I find it amusing that you seem to think my comments had anything to do with you OR your ideas. Why don't you start your own thread about your ideals, since that seems to be what your reply was all about? Let the OP have his original thread.

Secondly, let me put my original reply it in terms that you might be able to comprehend:

If the story is set in the Fallout world and does not have to follow canon exactly has been laid out in the past, then yes, I would read it. Nowhere did I say anything about Alice in Wonderland or Star Wars or any of the garbage you spewed in your reply. No where did I say anything about writing a novel myself, nor did I address you or anything you have written in this thread in any way, shape, or form.

If you want to know exactly what I mean by "canon", ASK instead of ASSume. I was referring to the lack of mammals and other aspects that should or could LOGICALLY exist in the world.

Thirdly, I found your reply to be exceptionally rude and uncalled for. My opinions are just that, MY opinions. I am most certainly entitled to them whether you agree with them or not.

Eileen

I may have assumed, but I never saw it as anything other then an attack sense evidently you wanted to set me up for a flame like you did. Clearly I figured you were being the one who spoke too softly and I gathered you wanted to challenge me. I took up the Challenge by explaining things with characters. I also spoke down to your level thinking you would understand and I clearly didn't ASSume you thought above an IQ of 2. I picked "Alice in Wonderland" because it matches your personality from the amount of information given to me. O' The simplicity yet complex nature of things with in that story kind of got me to that thought. But sense you didn't say anything more, and gave me no room to put it in any other way, I felt it necessary to ASSume. I felt you where being a mean spirit, or so I ASSumed. I went on the defensive, mostly because you gave me no room to think other wise. Your lack of information pertaining to "canon" was the idiot thing that had me post. Clearly I should have just deleted the post. However, I don't think anyone would have thought you, out of perception mind you, were being a complete tool. I imagine you expected the response you got, and further more you used my response as a way to inflame me. I do apologies for my assumptions, yet your last statement was intended to get a rise out of me. It was rather regrettable thought for you to ASSume that I was attacking you. I was merely making a statement in response to what you said and what I went on as gut feeling. To attack me over my ignorance was just, but the way you went about it was tactless. I consider your above statement to be an insult and you to be no less of a moron for it. As you would say in your back woods speak...

'Nuff said.

Again, I was NOT replying to ANYTHING you wrote. This isn't even YOUR thread.

Please do not reply again.

Eileen

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