in this game since there not making a huge impact no but say if you were to gather every bos and fight the ncr they would defintaly win.

which gave me an idea what if all the bos got together for on huge meeting

Well, ignoring the fact that we already know ncr beat the bos in the war leading up to new vegas, I'm still going with ncr... I'm kinda looking at it like space marines versus imperial guard, ie, the bos has superior technology and training, but punishingly strict recruitment policies and desperately low numbers; whereas the the ncr is bloated, bureaucratic, slow to act, and likely poorly trained, counterbalanced by their massive numbers and resources. Once the ncr got up to speed, they'd just grind the bos into dust.

I still vote BOS

So? How does that prove that one is more powerful than the other? Mr. Sir-Not-appering-in-this-game-as-much does not mean than an entire faction does not exist.

I'd have to say the BOS due to their superior Weapons and Armor

depends where, in nv and west coast its the N.C.R.

on the east coast its the B.O.S.


But overall the N.C.R. is a force to be reckoned with as long as there is a curior, Vault dweller, or chosen one

NCR has the largest standing army.....so i think that says it all..

Indeedly doodly.

If you just mean in New Vegas then I'd go with NCR, they've got the numbers and I'm sure that the Helios beam thing can beat someone in power armor.

If you mean the entire faction then I'd say deffinetly the BOS. You have to remember they don't only have Liberty Prime, but also vertibirds, airships(Fallout Tactics, yes this part is cannon), and if we go with the origional power armor then they are pretty much an army of walking tanks.

Of course, it is true that whoever the player sides with seems to be the best but as a faction as a whole, I'd say BOS wins.

Not to mention the player character is forced to join them in every game except for Fallout 2, so they've got a mini army of Main Characters so yeah, BOS FTW.

yes and the ncr won a huge battle over bos

Even if every BoS sub-faction were able to reunite (Which is highly unlikely because the West Coast Brotherhood pretty much exiled the founders of the Mid-Western brotherhood when they wanted less recruitment requirements and the East Coast Brotherhood's philosophy is completely against the West Coast's.) they would still be severely outnumbered. BoS would not have the supplies, logistic abilities, or manpower to prove victorious in a war.

Edit: NCR possibly also has Vertibirds (Due to a certain FO2 ending with the Enclave joining the NCR). And the influence portion of the question: The NCR has far more influence in far more places, being a government and all.

mabe if ur smart enough to read all the coments or payed attention to them u would have seen that i was responding to one that was talking about new vegas

and? the bos are really broken up more than u must no. the west bos exziled the the bos in the middle part of the country and the bos thats out east took a defernt path. and the bos have always been low on soldiers because of there strict laws and how you must train and the ncr have way more people and there starting to become well trained and the fact that ncr could just over welm the bos

I think in terms of weapons, armor, and zealotsy the Brotherhood win.

In sheer numbers the NCR win, but for every 10 NCR soldier I think only one BoS Knight would fall.

To me it really doesn't matter though, they all die with bullets.

NCR = 1940's Russia - Vast Manpower, but spread out, and inferior tech
BOS = 1940's Germany - elite, well trained, better weapons, but shorthanded, and very cloistered.

And we all know who won that war . . .

I think people underestimate NCR's military. NCR recruits everyone, including ghouls and super mutants. With the right equipment, super mutants are strong enough to stand up to Power Armored soldiers and a lot of ghouls have several lifetimes of useful agricultural, technical, and scientific skills.

I think people also have to understand that after all these years after fallout 2 and 3, that for all we know the NCR is on its last legs or it could be a military superpower. Just take that into consideration and never act certain.
Also if the NCR s recruiting super mutants that are from the first 2 games could easily take out a squad of BOS soldiers (this wouldn't be the same if the super mutants are the retards from FO3 atleast in F1 and F2 they could talk and be directed to a position or a mission.) I just don't see how the BOS could be stronger then the NCR.

I think people also have to understand that after all these years after fallout 2 and 3, that for all we know the NCR is on its last legs or it could be a military superpower. Just take that into consideration and never act certain.
Also if the NCR s recruiting super mutants that are from the first 2 games could easily take out a squad of BOS soldiers (this wouldn't be the same if the super mutants are the retards from FO3 atleast in F1 and F2 they could talk and be directed to a position or a mission.) I just don't see how the BOS could be stronger then the NCR.

they are both very powerful...

BOS has the tech and the NCR has the force, meaning numbers

Can you type in correct English? Kinda hard to understand what you said there. I for one do believe in the phrase quality over quantity. Just because you have more soldiers doesn't mean squat. There are many instances in real life where a few properly trained soldiers were able to take out entire regiments. BOS are fully capable of defeating The NCR. And you know you just contradicted yourself when you told me that you were talking about New Vegas(which I will agree the BOS would get their technology toting arses kicked) and yet mention Tatics and FO3.

The NCR will be more organised and cohesive in the New Vegas Area as it is their territory and they know it well, but come on the Brotherhood is massive and has supposed links to the US military, the Brotherhood if they really wanted could Mobilise Troops from several of their operations on both coasts to simply Crush the NCR in one attrition confrontation, but they have better things to be doing and have lsot contact with each other in parts as in Fallout 3, but if there was a full force on full force skirmish with all the NCR and all the Brotherhood the Brotherhood would kick their ass easily, especialy if they had rebuilt liberty prime by the date of 2281 or so considering he was destroyed in F3 about 2277-78 he could be back in action within a few years or 10 possibly depending on how complex he is, with prime the Brotherhood would kick the NCR's ass with only minor casualties, Except the brotherhood would have to seize control of the satelite weaponry of the NCR's in order to prevent their troops getting fried so the Brotherhood would have to stealth in in recon armour with stealth boys, take over the NCR stronghold by stealth and then wait a few hours for the Brotherhood armada of a sort to turn up and finish the job, so yes the Brotherhood would win.-- :foodndrink: (you can Breath now!)

NCR are the Imperial Guardsmen, BOS are the God Emperor's Space Marines.

There are alot of "What if...?" in your post. In fact, it consists entirely of them, and you are making crazy assumptions to try and twist the situation in favour of the Brotherhood of Steel.

Fact of the matter is, they already lost one war with NCR, and it's not very likely they'll be able to win another. While the BoS do generally have more advanced technology, their numbers are dwindling constantly, while the NCR has a virtually inexhaustible supply of new recruits.

Which Brotherhood are we talking about?
As far as I know there's 4 different factions of BOS.

The west coast, the tactics one's, lyons brotherhood and the outcasts.

The Tactics one's aren't all that pleased with the west coast one's if I remember correctly and west coast cut off east coast completely for not sticking to their agende.
Then the east coast's one's split into to different factions.

So... Which side are we talking about?
Because NCR is one big ass faction that has not severed any bonds and had itself split several times over.
BOS is dysfunctional and being split over and over again, hell, if we go by Van Buren then more members split and formed Circle Of Steel...

So NCR vs outcasts = NCR win.
NCR vs tactics = Tactics win (They have a biiiiiig army).
NCR vs Lyons Brotherhood = NCR win, Lyons Brotherhood don't have enough resources or members to take on the republic, and even with their liberty prime they'd be screwed, how many hidden cards do you think all of NCR has? The only we know of is archimedes, but I'm sure their bigger city's have some bad-ass firepower.
NCR vs west coast = According to Van Buren the BOS were losing.

So, NCR is a clear winner in my book.
I just think some people are too attached to BOS to be unbiased.

BoS beats them on an individual level, however NCR has always beaten them in a war scenario. Ceaser's legion is powerful on a city typed level but isn't that much of a "world" player.

Quoted for the truth.

... But damn, if the N.C.R. and the B.o.S. united... no one would dare [censored] with them. Seriously, they could rebuild America in like, ten minutes.