Wasn't it confirmed Akatosh and Alduin were the same people?

I've came to the reality that I just won't understand unless it's simplified to me by a dev x).

He's asking the same question as I, how could he be the world eater and the world saviour ?? None of it makes sense.

I need to catch up on my lore but from what I know Akatosh is one god of the nine divines his avatar is a dragon also I think Akatosh is just apart of the nine divines but don't quote me on that since my lore is like my Italian

woh dude i didnt think of the names that way. and i dont think its confirmed alduin and akatosh r the same. alduin is the nords equivalent does not mean they r actually the same person. but it is likely. very... im thinking tht the tiger dragon might just have a similr name becuz his name includes dragon but hey... ur point is strong. and i know he planned on attacking tamriel. so if he is him we can assume teh tscaesci or however u spell r already dead.

I think the OP stumbled on something here..

Well, the tiger-dragon is "mantling" or pretty much copying Akatosh, hence the similar name.

I'm pretty sure Alduin and Akatosh are different aspects of the same thing. Think Hinduism, it was a big inspiration for all this funky divine stuff.

I'm no lore buff, so wait for one of them to post.

he just may have... that makes sense what he says. i never thot too hard on it before. but it makes sense.

Yes it was..



It doesn't, and how could he be in Akavir (Tosh Ra'ka) and Skyrim (Alduin) at the same time?? How could he be two different PHYSICAL beings?




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The "Tiger Dragon" was pretty much the only person on Tamriel who became a dragon unnaturally, so i believe he IS Akatosh..

Also though this makes a lot of sense from the information I know, I love lore but there is so dang much of it man. This tiger culture also wanted to become dragons so maybe that's why the leader sort of copied the name?

Honestly it's confusing but it's not really contradictory. In actual mythologies/religions/legends it's not uncommon to have a divine being who is said to be a compassionate good being sometimes yet was a vengeful mass murderer in other tales.

I mean it is stated that dragons can hide themselves in the forms of men... i'm assuming they meant all peoples. so a tiger wuldnt be far off.

It's also not uncommon for them to be in two places at once.

Haha..thanks



Doesn't Akavir hate Tamriel? That's like America putting Ahmadinejad on the dollar bill..




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My first reply, Akavir hates Tamriel and there would be no logical reason for Tosh Raka to name himself that..



Look up Lorkan and read about him, in some Tamrelic cultures he is considered great and in others bad..very interesting stuff!

Akatosh is time. He is the beginning and the end. That which holds all change that happens in the world, and its destroyer.

Alduin is the Nordic interpretation thereof, the more fatalistic aspect focusing on the latter facet of his nature (that of the world's devourer.)

There are indications that the world has begun and ended many times...

this happens all the times. Look at christianity... god gives life...and he also kills them with a flood... in other religions the same thing applies. Zeus helps man and destroys man. its all over and very common.

You doubt the power of the gods? Much to learn, you still have. Akatosh has various roles to play.

Basically this.

It's just on a more literal level in TES because the gods actively interfere with the world, and we see that in the games.

Generally everything Akatosh/Alduin does is to keep balance within the universe. Sometimes the people of Tamriel see this as good (i.e. when he helped to end the Oblivion Crisis) and sometimes they see it as bad (i.e. what he is doing in Skyrim). It's all a matter of perception, nothing is really cut-and-dry in TES, which is one of the reasons it is such a great and in-depth game franchise.

would be a very interesting thing if the player thought it was akatosh/ alduin that was going on a spree cause of the amulet and prophecy and stuff- but then it turns out the tiger dragon guy is just a poser and he has been teaching a few select members of his nation to become dragons so that they can finaly escape the taeseci

To understand the situation one must understand first that TES has a lot of duality involved, that is, things that are two opposites at once. Akatosh is both a keeper of the world and a destroyer. He must finish the world each kalpha, but he must also maintain it until the next eating time.

There have been a couple threads about this already. What I have learned is that yes they are one in the same. Akatosh was sort of tricked by the other Aedra (the eight other divines) or more specifically by, er, Shor to the Nords--Can't recall his Aedra name--into creating Nirn. Shor was doomed to the Underworld, but it is Akatosh's body that makes up Nirn. As such he is essentially prisoner of whichever realm Nirn--the world where Tamriel is--and in order to free himself he must consume the world, dissolving his physical form in said plane. Then he can be free again. I believe it is Shor who supports human kind, and wants Nirn to exist. So yet, Akatosh, or Alduin, in order to be free must consume Nirn.

There is another thread with MUCH more detail, and MUCH more accurate than what I just spit out. Do a search, you'll find it. I was reading it earlier today.

Cheers.

That totally contradicts the assumption that Tosh Ra'ka is Akatosh and Alduin..




But what happens when Alduin dies? Does time end?

shor is lorkhan

He can't die he's a god...when he consumes the world, the world is destroyed and so is his physical body, and he is free again.

i think lol

i beleive whatever they call the dragon break is happens. where time stops being linear and different things happen at the same time.