who is van buren? : Fallout Series Discussion

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:21 am

series reboot

I have tootache only for thinking that

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:13 am

The Vault Dweller saved Necropolis, Hub, paid Water Mechants to supply Vault 13 and was a male.

The Chosen One turned Redding into an NCR state, impregnated Mrs. Bishop or Angela Bishop and helped the Bishops or didn't help any families, he was a male and snuck into Navarro.

and?
not sure what youre trying to say here in response to me..

Styles,- pretty much.. though i do feel that there are potential ambiguities, which is why the F-bible was taken up to begin with.

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:31 pm

The Vault Dweller saved Necropolis, Hub, paid Water Mechants to supply Vault 13 and was a male.

The Chosen One turned Redding into an NCR state, impregnated Mrs. Bishop or Angela Bishop and helped the Bishops or didn't help any families, he was a male and snuck into Navarro.

Some of those could be optional...

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:32 am

Some of those could be optional...

in the game, but they are confirmed to be the canon events in the game history.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:56 am

in the game, but they are confirmed to be the canon events in the game history.

Thats kinda stupid. Its like saying all those slides and outcomes in FNV just dwindle down to one ending for the hell of it....

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:21 am

If there is another ending in the New Vegas region, they will choose the canon ending that best provides a template for the new setting.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:46 am

If there is another ending in the New Vegas region, they will choose the canon ending that best provides a template for the new setting.

So isnt it kinda useless to have all those endings and in the end only one gets to be chosen...

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:49 pm

So isnt it kinda useless to have all those endings and in the end only one gets to be chosen...

No, don't think of it like that, the game in your hands is up to you, the history may differ, but it still adds replayability and new roles.

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:30 pm

Thats kinda stupid. Its like saying all those slides and outcomes in FNV just dwindle down to one ending for the hell of it....

Yah thats what supposed to happen.

If they continue the NCR storyline they will have to choose a canon ending they cant make this stuff the Warp in the West.

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:27 am

Yah thats what supposed to happen.

If they continue the NCR storyline they will have to choose a canon ending they cant make this stuff the Warp in the West.

Yah and the rest are meaningless...

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:39 am

Yah and the rest are meaningless...

No they are for your enjoyment and pleasure of enjoying the game ina unique way every time.

Lets say they sadi everything was canon adn nothing was canon at the same time. That would be on [censored] up Mojave with every side winnign losing, dieign, surviving, etc.

You could not continue the story with out solidifying a storyline. I do not see how all the endings are meaningless, but if ytou think that then cool.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:45 am

Except they are blank cards in Bethesda's deck, leaving everyone at the table speculating something they don't have.

I m really dumb What r u trying to say here exactly???????????

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:23 pm

I m really dumb What r u trying to say here exactly???????????

Bethesda doesn't like to build upon lore because they think having a roof overhead traps you inside, even if it is raining.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:53 pm

Thats kinda stupid. Its like saying all those slides and outcomes in FNV just dwindle down to one ending for the hell of it....

That is what will happen. See my grandaddy always told me " Now sonny a story can only have one ending" and he s right.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:32 am

Yah and the rest are meaningless...

absolutely worthless. Waste of time..... The NCR/Yes man/Housd endings are all flawed any way. They tried to get cute, but the game gets confused, they don t have some logical options,you can t tell yes man a thing once he s in that sceen. He tells you......You put a robot in there named yes man and you have no options to do or say any thing. Talk about being pissed?????

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:20 pm

Bethesda doesn't like to build upon lore because they think having a roof overhead traps you inside, even if it is raining.

I ve played one Bethesda fallout. The cards are on the table we know what happened end of story

Ive played 1 obsidian fallout I have no idea what happened

Styles played fo tactics like 10 years ago. Sadly he still does not know what happened.

Who has an empty deck keeping everyone in speculation.

I like you guys but you r all blinded.......full of hatred of Bethesda bias like i ve never seen. You d rather see this series put down again before you would say Bethesda did anything right or even fun.

Its a shame...................

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:15 pm

I ve played one Bethesda fallout. The cards are on the table we know what happened end of story

"the wasteland was finally saved"

How in the hell does that tell us anything?

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:36 pm

I like you guys but you r all blinded.......full of hatred of Bethesda bias like i ve never seen. You d rather see this series put down again before you would say Bethesda did anything right or even fun.

We never said that, I suggest you to watch you words

also, you think that New Vegas endings are flawed?
Care to explain, you said that in another thread but you didnt explained yet

The Canon ending will be chosen by Bethesda when FO4 is released, some of us we like it, others not

Multiple ending was added for fun and for more options, but at the end of the day, only one is Canon, its something that all the RPG have in common, something that Fallout 3 lacks, because there is only one canon and is the one that I did in all the gameplays I did, James dies, BOS wins, PP is activated, Enclave is defeated, nothing more, nothing less, just the same thing

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:03 am

"the wasteland was finally saved"

How in the hell does that tell us anything?

IT TELLS YOU WHAT HAPPENED. We actually know what happened in cw. nv ?????????? fo tactics???????????????
Do you really like a 10 year hole in the story?

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:33 am

How do you know we ll know we still don t know what happened in fo tactics and that was 10 years ago. I don t want to wait over 10 years to know what happened. All rpgs are not like that.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:45 pm

IT TELLS YOU WHAT HAPPENED. We actually know what happened in cw. nv ?????????? fo tactics???????????????
Do you really like a 10 year hole in the story?

NO IT DOES NOT, ALL IT TELLS US IS WHAT WE DID, NOT WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IN NEW VEGAS, IF YOU PAYED ANY ATTENTION AT ALL TO THE ENDING SLIDES, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN RESULT OF YOUR ACTIONS, SAME FOR FALLOUT TACTICS, WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW IS WHAT IS CANON. THE SAME GOES FOR FALLOUT 3, ONLY EVEN WORSE BECAUSE NONE OF THE ENDINGS TELL US ANYTHING.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:39 am

I ve played one Bethesda fallout. The cards are on the table we know what happened end of story

Ive played 1 obsidian fallout I have no idea what happened

Styles played fo tactics like 10 years ago. Sadly he still does not know what happened.

Who has an empty deck keeping everyone in speculation.

I like you guys but you r all blinded.......full of hatred of Bethesda bias like i ve never seen. You d rather see this series put down again before you would say Bethesda did anything right or even fun.

Its a shame...................

There is only one Bethesda Fallout to play :ermm:

I last played Tactics a couple weeks ago. Then I got Shogun 2 Total War and started playing that. Going to play New Vegas again soon. I first played Tactics back when it came out. I have five ideas of what could happen. I am hoping for the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ZcpcO7C58.

I don't hate Bethesda I just don't like their writing. I don't like how they give us no idea of what is to come. Without the multiple endings its just pointless empty speculation.

What Mako Vlazkov said.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:13 am

How do you know we ll know we still don t know what happened in fo tactics and that was 10 years ago. I don t want to wait over 10 years to know what happened. All rpgs are not like that.

Well, if you only want 1 ending, then I would argue RPGs aren't for you. You may want to try train journeys or FPSes.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:45 pm

I like you guys but you r all blinded.......full of hatred of Bethesda bias like i ve never seen. You d rather see this series put down again before you would say Bethesda did anything right or even fun.

Its a shame...................

I always find this kind of comment highly amusing. Ignoring the fact I was following gamesas since Daggerfall(also enjoyed Oblivion, and I am highly anticipating Skyrim), it seems I must he an avid Beth hater because I don't like some of their RPG aspects and see a room for an improvement.

Is this what always happens when someone runs out of arguments? Paint us with the non-existent "hateeerz" colour? Am I the only sane person here?

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:15 am

Back when Interplay was deep into game development, I think it was Tim Caine, started nicknaming games after American presidents.