Hey just want to know if everyone agrees with bethesda creating the construction set for other platforms, because personally i enjoy playing my games on my big tv and not my monitor, and like how much smoother the 360 is than my computer, and when i played oblivion on the 360 it made me very angry of my limitations, so i drove for 3 hours to find a store that sold it for pc, because with the construction set i pretty much become a god in the creation of new content and tweaks, so was wondering if anyone thinks they could be doing this, or if its even possible, ive been a loyal fan for years and have contributed hundreds of dollars to my elder scrolls experience, and was hoping i would only have to buy the game once this time and be satisfied, and if they added the feature i could just create my own lich mod, and everyone wouldnt have to listen to me b**** and just think how much extra money bethesda would make if they released the feature as a dlc.

No matter how hard people want it. It will never happen.
First of all. Sony and Microsoft will never allow it. Second thing is that consoles can't run Construction Set, due insufficient memory.

really? theres no way? what if you have a massive hard drive devoted only to elder scrolls memory?

Not gonna happen. Ever.

1) Sony/Microsoft EULA not allowing it.

2) Consoles aren't powerful enough to run many mods.

3) Consoles are an encapsulated system, not an open one like PC's.

4) It's almost impossible to do something in the CS with just the game controller.

Won't happen. Ever.

Memory as in RAM. The 360 and PS3 only have 512 MB non-expandable...

Theres no way at all. The interface would need to be totally redesigned to support a controller.

This is so impossible I didnt even laugh.



Is this a joke :shakehead:

I much as I would love it,......won't happen.......ever.....

hmmm? ok well what if we could convince some kind of agreement with sony?

maybe we could have a option of three mods at once?

maybe create a new engine for cs thats controller friendly?

EDIT: yeah your right its probably never gonna happen, but just imagine if they did it wouldnt be in vain it would be very lucrative for the company and very beneficial to us fans

Hard drive space has nothing to do with performance.

Yes, maybe RAM available on consoles could be enough for Morrowind or Oblivions Construction Sets. But Skyrim CS might require even better hardware to run
it smoothly.But again, Microsoft and Sony wont allow third party applications on their consoles, so modding would be illegal. And I doubt that
Bethesda will ever release Construction Set for consoles.

New engine?

That is just waste of resources.

I think he was referring to use the HD as virtual memory. Although technically possible, that'd be painfully slow.



Good luck with all of that. :violin:

oh well its a shame

There are two kinds of memory. Storage (Hard drive.) and Random Access (RAM.) It doesn't matter how big of a hard drive you have. Memory isn't the issue anyway. Beth doesn't have to develop anything new to provide us with PC modding tools, because all they do is distribute the exact same tool they themselves used to make the game. No changes necessary. For console, a completely different platform, a new tool would need to be built from the ground up. This tool would require a lot of resources, money, time, and effort to create, and only a small subset of the community would even care to use it. Sounds like a lot of wasted effort to me.

Besides, it would make more sense for the PC modding tools to remain, and for consoles to allow mod uploads that were made on the PC. Unfortunately, due to harsh restrictions on user generated content set in place by Microsoft and Sony, such a thing could never exist.

Sorry, but your modding dreams for console cannot come true. Not today. Hook your PC up to your TV if you prefer the bigger screen. Then plug in a controller for that console experience. If performance is a problem, invest in an upgrade or two. Good luck.

It is just much easier to switch using PC anyway.

well thanks guys for your insight on the matter im not really smart with computers but i am good at playing them, thanks again everyone guess i might just end up switchin to the pc

This is how you counter only advantage what console can offer. Yeah but PC are little more complex to use.



Once you have used PC some time, you should be able to learn all basic tricks you need to.

It's all about learning about them at your own pace. Nobody here was born with a PC & Windows manual included in their brain, you know

Besides, nobody is going to bit you if you ask any question...^^ (well, maybe except me).

Hey just want to know if everyone agrees with bethesda creating the construction set for other platforms, ----- No

because personally i enjoy playing my games on my big tv and not my monitor, ----- My monitor is 23", my tv 46". I sit more than 2x closer to my monitor than my tv. Thus, in terms of viewing angle my monitor is BIGGER than my tv. You just aren't set up right

and like how much smoother the 360 is than my computer, ----- Upgrade please?

and when i played oblivion on the 360 it made me very angry of my limitations, ----- Ever wonder why consoles are so much cheaper than normal computers? Quite specialized to perform only one task.

so i drove for 3 hours to find a store that sold it for pc, ----- A map really comes in handy when you're lost.

because with the construction set i pretty much become a god in the creation of new content and tweaks, ----- Yeah, if you need mods to become uber-powerful then there might be an issue.

so was wondering if anyone thinks they could be doing this, ----- No

or if its even possible, ----- In your dreams? :whistling:

ive been a loyal fan for years and have contributed hundreds of dollars to my elder scrolls experience, ------ :bowdown: :bunny: (You=bowdown, Bethesda=bunny)

and was hoping i would only have to buy the game once this time and be satisfied, ----- :violin:

and if they added the feature i could just create my own lich mod, ----- Try making it on the PC first. Once you have a good working Lich mod then we can talk about Xboxing it.

and everyone wouldnt have to listen to me b**** ----- I am reading, not listening.

and just think how much extra money bethesda would make if they released the feature as a dlc. ------ and think of how much time it would take to make a keyboard work on a 10 button controller. Then think of how long and pointless it would be to make a mod with two joysticks, no mouse, 10 buttons, and no access to the system files. I save the best reason for last: This entire post is completely argumentative except for this simple fact that neither Sony nor Microsoft will not allow you to access the game files.

FYI: Despite what School House Rock says, don't just Conjunction Junctions to make an uber-run-on-sentence, and if you do then it will look like this, but if you don't then it won't look this bad, so whatever you do, make sure you don't use fifty billion commas, and you really should realize how ridiculous this looks, yet you still made this massive sentence regardless, so I just took it and divided it up per comma to make an uber-rip-apart, and I think I did a good job.

Edit: I just listened to the whole song. It's been far too long since I last heard that.
Edit2: @Benrahir: I think that the violin is not truly suited to your post. A :rofl: makes much more sense and leaves the violin open for my moment just above.

It's not that people don't want it to happen, it's just not possible. Now, maybe if they had a contest for a mod and the winner would become a DLC, maybe, but I'm not sure if that would be possible either.

Sadly, this same request always comes up with each new Elder Scrolls game. JUST BUY A COMPUTER, AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT!

I believe that Bethseda could work out a Deal with Microsoft/Sony to make this work. But rather than the Construction Set running on the console, it would be on the PC. Microsoft already has something similar with XNA. You can build a game on your PC and execute it on your Xbox.

Bringing a third party into the picture, on the game "Section 8" you can host a server on your PC that 360s connect to.

I don't really care about the full deal, I know we can't an exact replica consolized.
But what I do want is a simplified version, one where I can just edit around with stats and stuff.
Like change item HP of a glass dagger to change troll speed to 120%.
Small stuff like that to custom tailor my own experience.
Change stuff like from 24 minutes = 24 hours to 72 minutes = 24 hours.
Just change around with stats of items, NPC's and other settings.
I do think that it could work.
It would be a like a more way more detailed spell creator but a way less detailed construction set.

PC only. xbox would have very limited tools to work with. I'm thinking something like simcity where you can adjust land and place things but can't do much beyond simple stuff.

This is what the PC version is for. I just played morrowind tonight for the nth time but I had new mods on it. It looks just as good and better than oblivion! That is why I get these games on PC.

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PC>xbox