who wants the enclave back (other than me) : Fallout Series Discussion

» Mon May 16, 2011 12:15 pm

agreed paladin john we hear at the enclave's secret bunker we feal that every ones opinion should be respected as if your own opinion and i agree on the MK2 power armor the MK1 is so more fashionable and i would hope that are scientists here at the bunker will make Mk3 power armor loke more like the MK1 but i never can understand what there saying half the time

» Mon May 16, 2011 2:42 pm

*activates the code that will open up the heliem minitanks secretly installed in his suit.*

Yay for the prankster scribes in your bunker!

Not a fan of the new PA in FO3. T-45's where ok, they look like a logical predecessor of the T-51b's However I can't a bide what they did to the Enclave.

» Mon May 16, 2011 10:48 am

agreed paladin john we hear at the enclave's secret bunker we feal that every ones opinion should be respected as if your own opinion and i agree on the MK2 power armor the MK1 is so more fashionable and i would hope that are scientists here at the bunker will make Mk3 power armor loke more like the MK1 but i never can understand what there saying half the time

Scribes and Scientists, Go figure?

» Mon May 16, 2011 8:22 am

*activates the code that will open up the heliem minitanks secretly installed in his suit.*

Yay for the prankster scribes in your bunker!

Not a fan of the new PA in FO3. T-45's where ok, they look like a logical predecessor of the T-51b's However I can't a bide what they did to the Enclave.

I gotta say, I hated the Remants PA when I first saw it but it's really grown on me, I think I might like it more than the FO3 Enclave armor now (Hellfire excepted).

» Mon May 16, 2011 6:56 am

agreed on hellfire and if you'll excuse me im going to check on or lead scientist of food development to see if he's finely figured out how to make the all mighty hamburger fingers crossed!!!!!

» Mon May 16, 2011 2:17 pm

It's the dog face and the crappy torso piece for me. Also doesn't look advanced in any way shape or form. It still has the clucky flat armor plates, with exposed powered framework. Nothing like the sleek smooth Armor plated finish of APA mk II. Also Fo3 enclave doesn't look even half as menacing as the originals.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/569/206475-enclave_super.jpg

So glad to have you aboard the enclave appreciation of power armored design! :thumbsup:

» Mon May 16, 2011 1:18 pm

THANKS o and the hamburger thing just terned in to another mutated goo thing i still made some guy eat it he said it tasted like chicken and supprisingly he didn't get sick but i wouldn't eat it

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:45 am

It's the dog face and the crappy torso piece for me. Also doesn't look advanced in any way shape or form. It still has the clucky flat armor plates, with exposed powered framework. Nothing like the sleek smooth Armor plated finish of APA mk II. Also Fo3 enclave doesn't look even half as menacing as the originals.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/569/206475-enclave_super.jpg

So glad to have you aboard the enclave appreciation of power armored design! :thumbsup:

I wonder, is it possible to reverse-engineer assets from FONV to FO3 (for personal use only, of course)? I know there's an APA MKII mod for FO3 but it doesn't look nearly as good as the Remnant Power Armor.

» Mon May 16, 2011 9:10 am

Most likely the same way they do it for FO3 mod conversion. FOedit the ESM requirement and all that jazz.

» Mon May 16, 2011 1:18 pm

It's the dog face and the crappy torso piece for me. Also doesn't look advanced in any way shape or form. It still has the clucky flat armor plates, with exposed powered framework. Nothing like the sleek smooth Armor plated finish of APA mk II. Also Fo3 enclave doesn't look even half as menacing as the originals.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/569/206475-enclave_super.jpg

So glad to have you aboard the enclave appreciation of power armored design! :thumbsup:

I love the "insect look" the old Enclave power armor has! Look like giant, armored wasps without wings.

» Mon May 16, 2011 7:01 am

i just like how it makes you look slim the fallout 3 enclave armor makes you look fat! but i still wear it and you now whats ironic that you can wear enclave armor in the citadel and no one says a thing?

» Mon May 16, 2011 2:41 pm

I like the F3 Enclave power armor better because it just seem like it would be better at protection with it being at least 3 inches thick where as the NV Enclave power armor seems more like a recon type armor geared towards mobility rather than protection.

» Mon May 16, 2011 2:34 am

ya i guess thats why i like it cuz im into recon

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:46 am

"While Relaxing in the Bunker" If i may put my two bottle caps in, while the Mk I seems like Recon Armor, the Mk II and Tesla Armor* i never could take the Hellfire armor seriously, though mind you i do like it's heat resistance* are for the mainline Enclave trooper, thus it could be viewed as such General, if you wish to look at it like so, as records we have do show it to be thinner and less bulkier than the Mk II armor. It would make a good distinction, and overall make for less confusion for your records.

» Mon May 16, 2011 8:26 am

ya i guess thats why i like it cuz im into recon

whats wrong with recon
you get snipers
long range weapons
and no one sees you coming
the only bad part is... you see the face of the one you kill. knowing who's soul that your are about to send on a journey. knowing once the trigger is pulled they wont be seen again.
that is the harsh truth about war.

» Mon May 16, 2011 5:02 pm

DEEP catfish realy deep o and i love recon but lets get back to the topic who thinks that autumn is dead or that bethesda will bring him back and have him change the enclave

» Mon May 16, 2011 3:44 am

Autumn did not want to change the Enclave, he wanted to dictate the wastelanders by forcing them to accept Enclave rule by being essentially their lifeline. He shot people to make examples and he had no problem with the whole Enclave Extermination Camps (because you have a better chance of passing the Vault City test than one of the Genetic Compliancy Tests that the Enclave do). Oh and he betrayed and essentially destroyed the whole Enclave in Raven Rock because he lacked the balls to do as he was damn told (also note later how he says "The Chain-of-command must be obeyed." :banghead:).

[censored] Autumn.

» Mon May 16, 2011 9:41 am

DEEP catfish realy deep o and i love recon but lets get back to the topic who thinks that autumn is dead or that bethesda will bring him back and have him change the enclave

why can't we let him be dead and replace him

its how things are done.
you kill a leader and they replace him with a stronger one
thats why no one assassinated muhamid
because they would of just replaced them.

oh and assations for the win
there the shadow of war and will do anything to make sure there targets dead
Like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuEWrWMbNuA

» Mon May 16, 2011 5:40 pm

I like the F3 Enclave power armor better because it just seem like it would be better at protection with it being at least 3 inches thick where as the NV Enclave power armor seems more like a recon type armor geared towards mobility rather than protection.

Say what? APA MK II (aka Remnants PA for those not familiar with FO2) is the heavy stuff.
http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/d/db/APA.jpg

It's made of High tech, polymers and ceramics so it is lighter and stronger then plan ol flat steel armor plate.

» Mon May 16, 2011 2:11 am

I like the F3 Enclave power armor better because it just seem like it would be better at protection with it being at least 3 inches thick where as the NV Enclave power armor seems more like a recon type armor geared towards mobility rather than protection.

It looks like a better protection

But i kill one of them with a Baseball bat :whistling:

in other words

You cant judge the armor just by the look of it

FO3 Power Armor looks serious, but is weak

NV Power Armor looks cartoonish, but is strong

DT is better than DR IMO

On topic:

The Enclave was destroyed and defeated 3 times

Let them be as a remnant

Give me more new faction or protagonism to others

» Mon May 16, 2011 12:44 pm

i thought they were pretty lame in the two games they are in, they lost, they should remain gone. Time for a new enemy, one less nazish, Also why does anyone want to join them? They would kill you because your not pure, They aren't good guys, they're antagonist!

» Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 am

i thought they were pretty lame in the two games they are in, they lost, they should remain gone. Time for a new enemy, one less nazish, Also why does anyone want to join them? They would kill you because your not pure, They aren't good guys, they're antagonist!

Because evil is cool and pays better

And

this a RPG

one of the feature should be join the evil

and I like evil

True To Caesar

» Mon May 16, 2011 5:59 pm

THE ENCLAVE LOST BECAUSE OF [censored]Y WRITING!!!!!!!!! and i like remanents on westcost BUT THERES STILL A LOT OF AMERICA LEFT!!!!!!!! they could even be in canada or mexico and i guess autumn didn't realy change BUT PEOPLE DO CHANGE!!!!!!!!!! and so do factions

» Mon May 16, 2011 3:26 am

They would have lost in FO3 even if the writing was good, they were the bad guys.

The Enclave changed to a degree in FO3 (wanted to rule the wasteland, not destroy it) but they lost anyways.

Joining the Enclave wouldn't make sense as they are such an aggressively xenophobic organization. Gonna have to use a mod for that one.

» Mon May 16, 2011 12:51 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! the enclave arnt evil the writers just made them evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the only reason the enclave lost in fallout 3 was because of liberty prime and a [censored] vertabird could have came behind him and fired missiles at him causeing him to EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and if the enclave never come back ill never play another game made by bethesda or obsidean AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!