I am a little concerned about the armor in Skyrim. Every game that Bethesda has released since Morrowind, has had slightly less armor customization options than its predecessor. In the last two Fallout games armor was actually a one piece with zero customization options, and from what I see in Skyrim screenshots it appears that they have adopted that same method in the new Elder Scrolls. This is a disappointment for me to say the least. I love being able to make my own unique, original, personal armor set, and seeing the different variety on the NPCs keeps the world from having that same dull, repetitive feel that Fallout had. There is nothing I hate more than walking into a tavern or a bar and everyone is wearing the same damn thing. I am a huge fan of the original style Morrowind used. Not only could you change your gloves, boots, greaves, pauldrons, helmet, and chest piece; you could also decide between the left and right variations for each. This allowed for unmatched armor options and variety in NPCs. It was disappointing enough when they reduced these options with the release of Oblivion, but I was very sad to see it go altogether when Fallout released. I was really hoping that the Elder Scrolls series would pull through and keep the tradition but it does not look promising so far. Has anyone seen any screenshots or videos you can think of, or heard anything on the topic that might confirm this one way or the other?

Fallout is it's own game though, it didn't have to have loads of armour customization because Elder Scrolls has it. Besides they focused more on variety of armour in Fallout over item slots. Same has been done with Skyrim but more like a meeting in the middle of the two.

Lose an armour slot, gain armour crafting. I'd say we're on the winning side of the equation

Its been confirmed that cuirass and greaves are combined, but other than that it is no different to OB, to my knowledge at least.

Yes, greaves and cuirass are merged. Not that I care, Morrowind is where my true armor customization came along.

Yep, there've been a number of long threads on this. Armor in Skyrim is: Hands, Feet, Head, and Torso/Legs (combined).

In Skyrim, you have Boots, Gauntlets and Cuirass. The Cuirass is the Cuirass and Greaves combined. This has been done to put more armor types in, as well as let the Devs make armor look cooler, and put more NPC's on screen. All in all, a fairly good reason to me. I'd rather have more armor types than Greaves... though I'd like both. Still, it won't happen until next-gen consoles.

Yeah, the merged armour / clothing really svcks. I've always mixed and matched armour / clothing in every TES game and hate the idea of wearing a set piece.

Just something we'll have to live with I guess. :confused:

Real men only wear pants!

really? in oblivion i only wore boots, guess pants woulda helped in bruma :shrug:

as for the new single outfits, i could do without. hopefully the singlets will either be good looking or we can change them a bit

Ive seen alot of people complaining about this. I didn't like it at first either but there will be many more armors, so it balances out.

it is different than OB..because they said there is more different types of armor in this game than any other..plus weapons and armor smithing... we lost separate greaves and curaiss and gained much much more

Not something I'm gonna bother worrying about. Lighter armor having reasons to use is more important (like good reasons to use Fur over Glass i.e.).

Took the words right out of my mouth! Well said! ^^

But, once again I see the game having to be gimpped down cuz of these damn consoles! :banghead:

I really dont care they can remove every armor slot except 1 in the game I can still model my own armor

Was totally ok with it, even excluding the great reasons the devs gave. I've been playing alot of morrowing lately and man... mixing armour looks awfull. One paultron looks kinda cool in a few cases, but mixing everything else could not look worse.

Like it or not, PC's are only 10% of the market. It svcks, but it's true.

I hope there are still rings and amulets.

I never wore all of the pieces of the same armour and am really disappointed with greaves and cuirass being combined. Fallout 3 bored the hell out of me with its armour style. It was really hard to find a good looking armour that I was satisfied with in the first place because I didnt like most of the complete sets and couldnt mix those pieces that I liked. Even if I did find something I got bored to it extremely quick because there was so little variation. There was also no reward whatsoever for finding a complete set of some armour like in Morrowind. TES is starting to look very similar to Fallout 3 unfortunately with less customization each game. Really hoping for Morrowind style to return. Customization over minor issues any day.

People usually wear sets of armor, uniforms, costumes. You never see a police officer wear half a uniform with the other half being a tutu. But casual clothing should be separate.

Well, that's because "the institution" requires it. Ahem.


I see it now, TES VI: Dragonsomething -- One armor option, one attribute (HP), three weapon categories (slash, blunt, and pierce), and you customize your character by choosing one of five different hair-do's.

This definitely did annoy me in Fallout. I am playing Oblivion for the first time right now (yes, for real) and I already noticed how we can mix and match armor. I think its understandable why they chose the new method, in the GECK there are so many items. I could only imagine what it'd be like if each clothing item were split into three and four different items. Would probably be nice if they could at least have variations in colors. There are many color variation mods and simply changing the color of clothing items does have its wonders too.

Real Men!

Ahh but seriously I can see where bethesda is coming from. Just look at Mount and Blade all you've got there is a cuirass, helm, gauntlets and boots. But the cuirassesssees still look good you don't need to micromanage.

That's a terrible example - it's a uniform. If the police changed the uniform so that they wore their top half and a tutu, you would never see a police officer wearing the old uniform.

You don't walk down the street when you are in mufti and see someone wearing your shirt and your pants. Or your shirt and your tie.

So armor can actually reach over your waist?

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