Without armor, Chief completely decimates Prophet if both soldiers don't have armor. Prophet is merely a US Army special forces soldier. He's tough, but still a human. On the other hand, Chief was taken at the age of 8 (due to his abnormally strong physiology, I might add) and underwent a rigorous training excercise that lasted over 6 years. At the age of twelve, a small squad of Spartans easily took down a platoon of Marines in training exercises that involved live ammunition...7 times. However, Chief was then given physical augmentations that made his bones virtually unbreakable, increased his muscle density and recovery factor, amped up his growth hormones, tripled the speed of his reflexes, and roided up his vision to the point that he virtually has night-vision. After those augmentations, Chief ewas forced to fight 4 Orbital-Drop Shock Trooperss, each of who can already beat Prophet. He accidentallykilled two of them, and practically crippled the rest. During another training exercise, he tore apart a 2-ton exosuit with his bare hands.

With armor, Chief still wins. He was fast enough to run over 65 miles per hours with a torn Achilles heel, and was able to deflect an anti-tank missile with his hand. He can also flip tanks and jeeps with no problem. The Nanosuit's biggest feat is being able to kick a sedan a couple of yards, draining the suit's available energy in the process

I dont want to turn this into a halo discussion, but if you remember anything, he only deflected the missle becuase Cortana took over, Cortana is the suit, sounds pretty familiar to Prophet and Alcatraz, he even discusses with her for a good minute on the calculation required to deflect it, and no, he dosnt do it succesfully, it blows up in his face, but he managed to stay alive, which was the awesome part. And Alcatraz runs past the speed limit, which is clearly posted on the street. Meaning he runs past 35 mph

THIS GUY WINS HANDS DOWN


Wooden Spoon Melee !!!!!!!!!!!!!Back OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont want to turn this into a halo discussion,
*points finger* YOU STARTED IT! Wahhh!

but if you remember anything, he only deflected the missle becuase Cortana took over
Cortana didn't "take over". She can't take over. In fact, the Chief even asked the technician if Cortana could potentially take over or control the suit, but no, she's only a peripheral system that just advises him and enhances his reflexes. Although there was that one time where she used the suit's fusion core power to shock a Flood infection form, but it's not like she could control his movements.

and no, he dosnt do it succesfully, it blows up in his face, but he managed to stay alive, which was the awesome part.
It didn't "blow up in his face", he knocked it away several feet before it detonated in the air.

And Alcatraz runs past the speed limit, which is clearly posted on the street. Meaning he runs past 35 mph
65 mph is still faster.

Yes, she cant "take over", but you forget he talks to Halsey and asks, "can she read my mind?" She says yes, "but what exactly is the human mind?" meaning she actually chills in his thoughts and even speeds up his reaction times, and yes its written in there, speeds up his reactions, but how? By reading his damn thoughts, they are one essentially. and no it does blow up in his face, becuase he emerges from a crater.

probably be a stalemate, because I can't see a broken pool cue/beer bottle penetrating either of their suits.

By reading his damn thoughts, they are one essentially.
So Cortana can read Chief's mind and alter his reflexes. Great. I don't know if the match guidelines say he can use Cortana, but even without Cortana Chief's reflexes are still damn good. *insert argument about effortlessly taking out 4 ODSTs that ganged up on him here*

and no it does blow up in his face, becuase he emerges from a crater.
If it blew up in his face, he would have been a red smear across the ground. The missiles were designed to take out Scorpion tanks. Plus in the book it specifically said he slapped it aside.

What are you 5? Read, he wasn't smear because of his shields, his shields took the damage, but he was beat to holy hell, and prove this, if he so call slapped it, by redirecting shield strengths to his hands, so then why did he emerge from a crater? He wasnt fast enough, but he did redirect it slightly, but it still did blow up in that same instance. and the ODST fight yes, he kicked there ass and even broke there necks, but see, Alcatraz here breaks CELL necks every 15 seconds, and stabs knifes through Alien Brains, Master Chief never got a chance to try that.

You see... What they don't tell you is that Prophet and mc is the same person.
It's a conspiracy you see.. What they really did was store prophet body for many many years while experimenting on human genetics. Then when he woke up, they fed him bs like how he was born special etc with his memory wiped. Who else wuda been a suitable candidate? :p

What are you 5?
Yes. I'm a very precocious human being.

Read, he wasn't smear because of his shields, his shields took the damage
Did you honestly think that the shields took on the entire force of a high-speed high-explosive missile designed to take out a damn armored tank? Despite the fact that Spartans have NEVER shown to withstand such feats, in game or books?

then why did he emerge from a crater?
He never emerged from a crater! The explosion blew him 6 meters away, but it sure didn't leave him in a crater, like it would have if the missile actually hit him directly.

Alcatraz here breaks CELL necks every 15 seconds
WITH his armor. Chief can do the same damn thing without his armor. Put two and two together, and ring up the result. And how the hell is CELL supposed to be more impressive than an ODST? Last time I checked, they were just a bunch of mercenaries hired by a multimillion dollar conglomerate.

and stabs knifes through Alien Brains, Master Chief never got a chance to try that.
Right, Chief just stabs energy swords through Alien Brains. And clearly you've never played Reach, otherwise you would know that you can lobotimize aliens with a knife as well.

Really, dude, I'ma General Grade 2, and you make me chuckle at that fact you think I know squat about halo, I know he took the canister to the face, he didn't deflect it fast enough, simply put, Alcatraz suit can do Genetic Nano Assimilation with Foreign Microbes, Chief cant, Alcatraz skin can form Semi- Maneuverable Compressed Boron Exoskin, Chief cant, Alcatraz manipulates Surfaces of the suit to accommodated situations, like turning his back into Teflon, Chief cant, Alcatraz actually is going through augmentation behind the scenes, he occipital perception is being altered by Nanites forming artificial pulses to his synapses, Chief doesn't, Alcatraz has a self deffibulating suit, Chief doesn't, Alcatraz is a zombie, Chief isn't, Alcatraz has a rubber tube jammed in his ass, Chief doesn't, Alcatraz can synthesize vaccines while playing chess, Chief cant

And most important, Alcatraz has real time Module interface actually shifting the suits genetic codes to shift between Traits, he's essentially defined alterable evolution.

How would the Nanosuit 2.0 handle a needler ??

hmm.

How would the Nanosuit 2.0 handle a needler ??

hmm.
Deflection

How would the Nanosuit 2.0 handle a needler ??

hmm.
Deflection

Well, when Alcatraz inserted the final thing to create a vaccine in Crysis 2 into himself through the suit, it didn't deflect it.

Prophet wins at least ideologically given that the nano suit(any variant) just looks way more badass than the masterchief space marine garbage.

Someone referenced a fanboy halo h8ter(nice spelling on that) and I most certainly am. But I was made this way by the halo fanboys in the first place. That, and seriously, every other imagining of a "power suit" always looks way cooler than the halo marine suit, that thing is so unimaginative. Maximum rainbow.

And if I remember, those squishy biological alien things, the flood I think, tear master chief a new one pretty easily fancy pants rainbow suit and hardened bones or no. A maximum punch from nanosuit 1.0 could do something pretty similar, maybe?

Prophet doesn't even NEED bones. They seem to be pretty irrelevent if you consider what Alcatrez does with the broken and dying body he has in there. Who knows, maybe Prophet was far stronger simply by virtue of having a body that could actually move on it's own? In any case, Master Chief loses major points in the style category.

The Master Chief will win, but only due to his armor and the 500-year-gap in technology.

With nanosuit 1, id say chief will win.
With nanosuit 2, id say prophet will win. Because its more durable, has longer lasting energy, self repairing..etc

Im actually surprised so many people think master chief will win.

Like I said. Simple way to find out. Drop both from the upper atmosphere. Whoever survives is the winner.

How would the Nanosuit 2.0 handle a needler ??

hmm.
Deflection

Well, when Alcatraz inserted the final thing to create a vaccine in Crysis 2 into himself through the suit, it didn't deflect it.
Not sure if you've noticed, he toggles his abilities, how he does it I don't know, maybe by blinking?

Like I said. Simple way to find out. Drop both from the upper atmosphere. Whoever survives is the winner.

Mc has actually done that... As I recall from the trailer for.. Halo..3 The end of halo 2 somewhere round there. My memory is fuzzy...

Mind you It was jumping ship to ship...

With nanosuit 2, id say prophet will win. Because its more durable, has longer lasting energy, self repairing..etc.
How exactly is the nanosuit 2 supposed to have "longer-lasting energy" when you deplete your energy bar every time you so much as kick a car or a desk?

With nanosuit 2, id say prophet will win. Because its more durable, has longer lasting energy, self repairing..etc.
How exactly is the nanosuit 2 supposed to have "longer-lasting energy" when you deplete your energy bar every time you so much as kick a car or a desk?

Uh no..... only if you hold it down, if you tap kick he still flip cars, holding flip with the N2 flips the car and make it fly 30ft across the map.

With nanosuit 2, id say prophet will win. Because its more durable, has longer lasting energy, self repairing..etc.
How exactly is the nanosuit 2 supposed to have "longer-lasting energy" when you deplete your energy bar every time you so much as kick a car or a desk?


I was thinking about that for some time, I believe the thing about that is, if you consider the differences between nanosuits v 1 and 1.5 or 2, nanosuit 1 has seperate modes for speed and strength. Strength doesn't take so much power, speed takes it all in several seconds.

With the new model (1.5 or 2) the power and speed modes seem to be amalgamated and also the default state, so one could argue that while it does take more of the available energy to kick around some automobiles, it is now the default suit mode, and it explains why neither power or speed are as extreme as the first nano suit model. They work in tandem and are always on unless armor or cloak suit modes are activated. This combination may have lessened the two functions a bit in return for more fluid access.

If we look at a bar scenario, then it would boil down to a brawl. The Chief has shields, which are more resilient than armor mode. Prophet could deplete Chief's shields in one punch and kill him with a second with power mode, but there's a significant delay in between hits. Chief doesn't need to recharge (and yes he can kill unshielded Elites and Brutes in one hit) and while Prophet might bring down his shields, the Chief would be throwing successive punches in the meantime, each one as powerful as the last. Prophet would have to cloak and punch Chief while invisible, but it would only deplete Chief's shields while Chief would pummel Prophet to death immediately afterwards, since without suit energy a Nanosuit user can't do much.

Really, dude, I'ma General Grade 2, and you make me chuckle at that fact you think I know squat about halo, I know he took the canister to the face, he didn't deflect it fast enough, simply put
Well, if you insist that Chief can survive a direct hit from an anti-tank missile, be my guest. Only is going to strengthen my argument.

Alcatraz suit can do Genetic Nano Assimilation with Foreign Microbes, Chief cant
Which would provide absolutely zero help in a bar fight.

Alcatraz skin can form Semi- Maneuverable Compressed Boron Exoskin, Chief cant
Semi-Maneuverable Compressed Boron is just another name for the ceramic plate of a bulletproof vest, no need trying to hide your arguments in technical jargon when I can see through all of it. Besides, Chief's armor and shields make bulletproof vests look like cardboard.

Alcatraz manipulates Surfaces of the suit to accommodated situations, like turning his back into Teflon
Having your own personal slippy-slide also provides zero to little help in a bar fight.

Alcatraz actually is going through augmentation behind the scenes, he occipital perception is being altered by Nanites forming artificial pulses to his synapses, Chief doesn't
Which is also completely useless, especially considering how Chief has the same damn thing, except instead of Nanites altering his eyes, he has increased blood flow to his retinas.

Alcatraz has a self deffibulating suit, Chief doesn't
Sure. Maybe if Alcatraz suffers a myocardial infarction in the middle of a fight, it might save him. But in a bar fight? Hardly.

Chief has biofoam injector implants. Alcatraz doesn't.

Alcatraz can synthesize vaccines while playing chess, Chief cant
Also useless in a bar fight. Unless the only weapon at the Chief's disposal is a monkey with Ebola...or a highly social hoker.

In conclusion, you throw around alot of technical semantics, but they all boil down to absolute uselessness.