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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:51 pm

House only cares about himself and his precious City.

So? NCR only cares about California. Where do it's taxes on controlled cities go? California. Where do all the resources go? California. NCR does the same thing.
The Legion are pretty much barbarians as they are shown in New Vegas, so I can't say anything.

Seriously, why does everyone go 'He's not an altruist, he CAN'T be good for leading.' Thats a stupid thought process. Being a superfluity of charity only invites the lazy to mooch. He's a businessman running his business, there is nothing wrong with that.

Edit @ Carny- You make a good point. House only kicks out NCR Military personnel. It's even written into the treaty NCR as a nation is welcome to enjoy everything the Strip has to offer. As I said, even if NCR loses, they still win.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:16 am

So? NCR only cares about California. Where do it's taxes on controlled cities go? California. Where do all the resources go? California. NCR does the same thing.
The Legion are pretty much barbarians as they are shown in New Vegas, so I can't say anything.

Seriously, why does everyone go 'He's not an altruist, he CAN'T be good for leading.' Thats a stupid thought process. Being a superfluity of charity only invites the lazy to mooch. He's a businessman running his business, there is nothing wrong with that.


While I agree with you, to say that House ONLY cares about Vegas and money is a little misleading to those many here who don't think things through (oh so many :confused: )

The way I see it, based on many playthroughs, House's two passions in his very infinite life are Vegas and humanity's potential for scientific progress. Every motive that is apparent in all of his dialogue come down to those two things, the 2nd being the most important. He wants the best for humanity, and what's best, according to him, is science.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:41 am

So? NCR only cares about California. Where do it's taxes on controlled cities go? California. Where do all the resources go? California. NCR does the same thing.
The Legion are pretty much barbarians as they are shown in New Vegas, so I can't say anything.

Seriously, why does everyone go 'He's not an altruist, he CAN'T be good for leading.' Thats a stupid thought process. Being a superfluity of charity only invites the lazy to mooch. He's a businessman running his business, there is nothing wrong with that.



Yes have a person that could die from a single sneeze. And cares most about his beloved city.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:42 am

Yes have a person that could die from a single sneeze. And cares most about his beloved city.


What? He can die if someone compromises his life support system. If that doesn't happen he can't die and it won't happen unless the Courier does it...

And yes it's clear that Mr House is the one who cares most for New Vegas and its inhabitants, you are correct.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:09 am

None of them.

While I defend the Legion, I would have destroyed the entire world again to wipe it clean if I had the choice.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:22 am

What? He can die if someone compromises his life support system. If that doesn't happen he can't die and it won't happen unless the Courier does it...

And yes it's clear that Mr House is the one who cares most for New Vegas and its inhabitants, you are correct.

No all he cares about is his damn city and could give two [censored] about the settlements surrounding it.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:07 am

No all he cares about is his damn city and could give two [censored] about the settlements surrounding it.


And yet he

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sends surplus robots to wipe out the Fiends and secure and pacify the regions beyond the Strip. He sends an ambassador to Goodsprings, and he lets the NCR retain their outposts in the region. A barbaric and desolate region is not what House wants man, that's quite clear.


;)
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:47 am

And yet he

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sends surplus robots to wipe out the Fiends and secure and pacify the regions beyond the Strip. He sends an ambassador to Goodsprings, and he lets the NCR retain their outposts in the region. A barbaric and desolate region is not what House wants man, that's quite clear.


;)

Ohh yah he really did alot....Not hardly. He doesnt want to expand his horizons. He's just stubborn and wont change. The only two things that he does are not that important. He sends an ambassador to goodsprings?? what are you talking about. He sends a robot there.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:26 am

And look how that's working for them, a dictatotship is better then democracy as long as leader isn't out of his head.HOLD YOUR TUNG PROFLIGATE.


Dictatotship is better? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Sure you can have an awesome leader but at some point you are going to get a monster and s/he will be in for life and their word is GOD. So no thank you on the idea of dictatorship. I like knowing that if my leader becomes corrupt I can vote the ass out or the very least term limits will keep them from being in power for life.

Democracy is working very well for NCR. They have become the largest faction in the American wasteland. Control all of California, Baja Mexico, into Oregon and northern Nevada.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:08 am

Ohh yah he really did alot....Not hardly. He doesnt want to expand his horizons. He's just stubborn and wont change. The only two things that he does are not that important. He sends an ambassador to goodsprings?? what are you talking about. He sends a robot there.


I find it strange that you don't consider massive scientific progress "not expanding" horizons. House is the only one expanding horizons man. While the NCR expands their borders and expands their republic's horizons House is expanding humanity's horizons. Open your eyes dude.

yeah that would count as an ambassador of the strip and House wouldn't it. The fact he actively sends out robots to pacify the outer Vegas region and lets the NCR retain their footholds in the Mojave is proof that he doesn't want the region to go to [censored].
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:36 pm

1.Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
2. I like knowing that if my leader becomes corrupt I can vote the ass out or the very least term limits will keep them from being in power for life.

1. Theres corruption in every government...no matter what it is.
2. where do you live that you have a leader like that?
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:55 am

1. Theres corruption in every government...no matter what it is.
2. where do you live that you have a leader like that?


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Well the USA is one of many countries where that is possible.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:08 am

I find it strange that you don't consider massive scientific progress "not expanding" horizons. House is the only one expanding horizons man. While the NCR expands their borders and expands their republic's horizons House is expanding humanity's horizons. Open your eyes dude.

yeah that would count as an ambassador of the strip and House wouldn't it. The fact he actively sends out robots to pacify the outer Vegas region and lets the NCR retain their footholds in the Mojave is proof that he doesn't want the region to go to [censored].

Meh.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:38 pm


Well the USA is one of many countries where that is possible.

What corruption...hell yes. I live there i would know....JFK...WHY.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:51 pm

What corruption...hell yes. I live there i would know....JFK...WHY.


There's corruption throughout the USA government. Some politicians are less quiet about it than others...
It's strange that they didn't teach you about term limits and the voting procedure in school if you live here.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:48 am

1. Theres corruption in every government...no matter what it is.
2. where do you live that you have a leader like that?


As it was already pointed out. America would be one. I live in Canada where there are free elections and term limits. The UK would be another, France, and many more.

I agree corruption is in every form of government. In a dictatorship their is nothing the average joe can do. Their leader is pretty much God with total control over the nation. You can have a nice leader but there will come a time where you get one thats a total monster. History has shown this.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:54 pm

1.There's corruption throughout the USA government.
2.Some politicians are less quiet about it than others...
3.It's strange that they didn't teach you about term limits and the voting procedure in school if you live here.

1. yes and i am ashamed of it.
2. Duh.
3. We have.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:13 pm

Monarchies arn't bad, just so you know.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:08 pm

1. yes and i am ashamed of it.
2. Duh.
3. We have.


Lol ok... Wonder why those ideas were so shocking to you then.

"2. where do you live that you have a leader like that?"
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:23 am

Monarchies arn't bad, just so you know.

The all arnt good no matter how you look at it.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:23 pm

Monarchies arn't bad, just so you know.


They were in the days when the Monarchies had total power. Thats why the people of France killed theirs. Now why would they do that if they were good? Why did the people over the years take power away from the Monarchies? The whole "appointed by God" thing is not my cup of tea.

A constitutional monarchy now that is a different thing. The Monarch is just a useless figurehead we keep around for some stupid reason :confused:
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:30 pm

You wonder why people don't talk ALL the power off their Monarchs?

Look at Thailand, it have be shaky for the last few years; but it doesn't escalate in to what we have in North Africa because of a well placed Monarch.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:09 am

They were in the days when the Monarchies had total power. Thats why the people of France killed theirs. Now why would they do that if they were good? Why did the people over the years take power away from the Monarchies? The whole "appointed by God" thing is not my cup of tea.

A constitutional monarchy now that is a different thing. The Monarch is just a useless figurehead we keep around for some stupid reason :confused:


Bahrain is a monarchy and not a figurehead based one, it was going well up until Libya and Egypt started to revolt.

Middle Eastern Monarchies > European
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:43 pm

Monarchies are the same world wide IMO. I am not saying there can't be great Monarchs. The only problem is when you get a bad one, getting ride of them is not so easy. Then again if you are used to it and spent your whole life under someone elses thumb I guess its not so bad :unsure:

The people of the Mojave are used to being free.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:56 pm

Bahrain is a monarchy and not a figurehead based one, it was going well up until Libya and Egypt started to revolt.

Middle Eastern Monarchies > European


Hmm not quite. There have been tons of studies done concerning why authoritarian governments (monarchies, dictatorships, etc) are more prevalent in the middle east (the gulf in particular). The the short answer to why they're there? The Western powers established them. The short answer to why democracy hasn't arisen? The West and oil. I won't get into details here and get off topic further but if you're interested you may want to read Michael Ross' study "Does oil hinder democracy?" It's pretty interesting.
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