Who Do you agree with ?

Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:47 pm

Talon Company.

Lol i second this.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:44 pm

I voted Mr. House too (hey, he's actually popular in this poll!)

Because there's nothing wrong with ''someone who only cares about the Mojave''. I'd much rather live under the rule of someone who knows where to stop expanding, instead of the territorial greedy NCR. Do you really think that they can protect the Mojave? They can't even win from the Fiends.
Another thing; I don't see what's so good about a republic if there are so few educated people. Because then you end up with ''thisguymademefacepalm''-Kimball (that's the nickname I gave him). If this guy gets voted into office then you can't deny that there's something wrong with the majority of the voters. He's one of the most evil persons in Fallout: New Vegas if you ask me. Why? Because he can't win from Caesar's Legion, yet he won't give up because he's a [censored] gloryhawk. And this [censored] gloryhawk costs the NCR lots and lots of soldier lives. Forlorn Hope is the perfect example. In fact, there's an ex-NCR soldier at 188 Trading Post who talks about how some of the troopers don't even get armor and a ''military training'' of two weeks. Yeah, that's how you'll win the war, thisguymademefacepalm-Kimball.
Oh, and you forgot:
- Powder Gangers
- Followersof the Apacolypse
- Fiends
- B00mers
- Brotherhoos of Steel
- The Kings (yay!)
- State of Utobitha
- The Bright Brotherhood

i ment MAIN factions. but ill put brotherhood in there
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:55 pm

NCR because they are rebuilding a capitalist democracy. I have seen them grow from shady sands to the largest faction in the American wasteland.

yess exactly good man.
lol shady sands OG
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:15 am

Independent or Yes Man for me. Because, I don't like rest of all(I'm talking about major factions, not minor factionc).

Here my reasons why I don't like them:
For NCR, there're many good people around there. But, they're very ambitions, try expansion as quickly possible, take everything(with land, water, and eveything resources), and many people(mostly NCR troopers) die causing the war.
For I noticed, most settlments and locals don't like or try agains to NCR.

For Casear Legion, they're all savage and brutal behave. Of coures, no care about human nature, equal, or even civilization(Unlike pre-war Roman Empire).

For Mr.House, he is very a selfishness and pretty greed. Even worth than Caesar.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:27 am

Anybody BUT House.

Why?
Ncr-just expand for money and land they'll even get mercinaries just to get them to join them
ceaser-crucifyig peoe and enslaving g people
hours-wants to restore Vegas to it's pre war glory



In house we trust
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Laura Samson
 
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:27 pm

I am not too passionate about it, but House is the only thing I can't trust.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:57 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1172849-favorite-faction/
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:01 am

Independent, NCR have a very bad past and they are imperialist and expansionist. Just wait until they proclaim themselves as ruler of the world. But the time is passing us independents by and progress must make way. How sad.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:22 pm

I'll just summarize what I said in the topic similar to this one. It's pretty easy to say "Hey, slavery. Bad." or "Hey, crucifixion. Bad." when you don't bother to consider the alternatives. Look at the "white knights" of the NCR, all trumped up on ideas that their the successor of the former USA, clinging to the idea that through hard work and good ole fashion 'Merican-Know-How the immense damage done to the country will simply go away.

This is an utter fallacy. I mean does anyone in their right mind really think they could pick up right where we left off after a catastrophic event on the level of a nuclear war? Even if a decent chunk of time has passed, attempting to build America up from it's smoldering ruins is insane.

If we're talking about rebuilding a free society you need to lay the ground work first. IE, beat the warring tribes into submission, erase their single-minded mentality. Next put the kabash on Old World ideals of free thinking and rampant idealism; in the world of Fallout these things are useless. Once things have settled and what could pass as an "uneasy peace" sets upon the unified Legion, the natural progression of revolution, free thinking, and all that good stuff could occur. I realize the NCR does have some sound ideas and have conquered large swaths of territory, etc.

But does anyone think it's really built to last? I mean, if the Legion, a group most consider to be a roaming army of delusional psychopaths, can waylay the mighty "Bear", are they really that great? Nope. Take that along with that fact that if the NCR ending is made canon and President Kimball survives, the war with the Legion wages on. Pair this with the fact that most NCR citizens are calling the conflict with the Legion "Kimball's War", it's clear he's limited to two options:

Option 1: Pull out of the Mojave and allow the Legion to take the Dam (New Vegas would be next), which would in turn give them the power to seriously injure in not destroy the NCR completely.

Option 2: Continue on with his war and allow Chief Hanlen to keep sowing those seeds of discontent, which would undoubtedly lead to either Kimball turning the NCR into a dictatorship, or a civil war that would gut the NCR completely.

I hardly feel it necessary to note that this is all IMO, but I'll gohead and do it anyway to avoid the inevitable "Nuh uh! This would would happen instead..." reply. So yeah, this is all IMHO.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:26 am

I honestly couldn't find it in me to care about any of them.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:54 pm

my heart says bos but my brain says house so i chose house
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:10 am

One thing that maybe have completly changed my mind about NCR. I start to discover that they ARE rebuilding a capitalist america. Why would they want to do that? It was bloody capitalism that got the world in trouble anyways! :banghead:
Darn, that turned my fallout world upside-down. We need a socialist faction right now!!
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:01 am

Yes man. Why? Because on my first playthrough I picked yes man simply out of my disire for personal power :hehe:
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:08 pm

One thing that maybe have completly changed my mind about NCR. I start to discover that they ARE rebuilding a capitalist america. Why would they want to do that? It was bloody capitalism that got the world in trouble anyways! :banghead:
Darn, that turned my fallout world upside-down. We need a socialist faction right now!!


Nah, I like capatalism, that is why I like the NCR :D
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:35 am

I'll just summarize what I said in the topic similar to this one. It's pretty easy to say "Hey, slavery. Bad." or "Hey, crucifixion. Bad." when you don't bother to consider the alternatives. Look at the "white knights" of the NCR, all trumped up on ideas that their the successor of the former USA, clinging to the idea that through hard work and good ole fashion 'Merican-Know-How the immense damage done to the country will simply go away.


Well, there is no other way to say it. Kicking puppies is bad, stealing candy from children is bad, crucixion and slavery are bad.

This is an utter fallacy. I mean does anyone in their right mind really think they could pick up right where we left off after a catastrophic event on the level of a nuclear war? Even if a decent chunk of time has passed, attempting to build America up from it's smoldering ruins is insane.


Mr. House can rebuild New Vegas in just seven years. God knows what he can do in twenty.

If we're talking about rebuilding a free society you need to lay the ground work first. IE, beat the warring tribes into submission, erase their single-minded mentality.


Is this what the Legion does with its legionnaires? Erase their single-minded mentality? Legionnaires don't think for themselves, they follow orders. They're like trained dogs. Their mentality is as simple as cake.

Next put the kabash on Old World ideals of free thinking and rampant idealism; in the world of Fallout these things are useless. Once things have settled and what could pass as an "uneasy peace" sets upon the unified Legion, the natural progression of revolution, free thinking, and all that good stuff could occur. I realize the NCR does have some sound ideas and have conquered large swaths of territory, etc.


So, after everything the world loses pretty much all material stuff (factories, infrastructure, houses) it should just get rid of all immaterial stuff too? ''We lose our buildings, so we're just gonna start all over'' Mr. House just starts where humanitty left off, instead of letting the pre-war horrors occur all over again.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:47 pm

Legion. Mankind wont get far with corruption and greed, and Mankind isnt so far gone that in needs a brain in a tube to save it. Legion is the only faction strict and strong enough to ensure peace throughout the wasteland. There are many capable leaders in the legion, Lucius, Lanius, Dead sea. I am sure there are many more
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:25 am

Nah, I like capatalism, that is why I like the NCR :D


I like NCR becuse thir is alot of diversety of the people, and people are allowed to actually have different opinions. But now, when they clearly are capitalist, I dont know... Democracy is great, but if they want to rebuild America as it used to be, well, then the show is gonna start over again.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:55 am

Nah, I like capatalism, that is why I like the NCR :D

NO government system is good.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:20 am

NO government system is good.


"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."
- Winston Churchill
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:25 am

"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."
- Winston Churchill

Really what about communism. Fascism. and many others. I think democracy inst the worst of them all.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:51 am

edit ignore this
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:05 am

Really what about communism. Fascism. and many others. I think democracy inst the worst of them all.


Communism and Fascism have been tried. He was saying Democracy is not perfect but its better then every other system.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:48 am

Communism and Fascism have been tried. He was saying Democracy is not perfect but its better then every other system.

Exactly so Democracy is not that bad.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:45 pm

BoS all the way. All others are just flawed.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:01 am

I'm always with the Enclave. If they have a chance, they deserve to win. If they don't have a chance, no one deserves to win. It's the Enclave or no one for me.

EDIT: That's why I sided with Independent in New Vegas. IMO even anarchy is better than the flawed alternatives.
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