Yeah but the Fallout Universe is not our time. Also the legion are trying to be like ancient Rome. So therefore to them it is manly to wear kilts. There are still cultures in the world that wear them because its considered manly.

Yah well they are just a little insane.

Who? The Legion or cultures that still wear kilts because its apart of their cultural heritage/history?

The legion for using old style cultures.

Just checking lol

Okie dokey.

Im a independant guy overall.... prefer to carve out my own destiny than having someone elses law shoved down my throat.

Though the best chance for the wasteland is definately House, It really depends on my character and the specific roleplay I got going.

I agree with Cesears Legion becuase of his "brainwashing" and integration process although they're brutal and evil it is better to let humanity to relearn everything and startover than try to salvage what is left of humanity and let greed run rampad through both government and private matters. Although the Legion follows Cesear not his ideas, once MR. House is killed Cesear could take his place and live forever aswell. And for all you people voting BoS but then saying you don't like the west coast ones they are the ORIGINAL BoS and any other BoS probably follow their ideals except the capital wasteland chapter.

That won't happen as House is the only one who knows how to use that technology. Besides, Caesar is not the kind of guy to be a brain in a jar.

Nothing Caesar does will get rid of greed. That will always be part of humanity. Novac, Primm, Goodsprings, New Vegas do not need Caesar. They are already civilized. Caesar's Legion do not bring civilization to the mojave any more than the NCR. The mojave already has pockets of civilization. So the bringing civilization argument does not hold.

I beleive the Legion has control over most land plus alot of people don't agree with the NCR just get annexed by it.

Nor House.

House just want to pick up everything he had before the bomb drop and carry on as if they never did....everything beyond that, he doesn't really care.

Well with House you don't have a giant bureaucratic government being destroyed by the corruption and greed of many people. Even if you believe House is driven by greed or is corrupt in some way (I don't and I think it's made fairly clear that he isn't), his government would be a despotic one, where the weaknesses of the common human aren't ruining everything for everyone.

Thomas Hobbes all up in this [censored] :disguise:

To all the people asking why not Mr House because all he cares about is Vegas. Thats not going to save Mankind entirely, just for Vegas. Which is nuts. Than all mankind is going to be living in is gambling.

Nope, if House comes to Vegas, he can rebuild it to it's Pre-War state, and soon after, reignite technologic reproduction of Pre-War tech, which could be sent to NCR, NCR could use that developed tech to further stabalize and civilize what they own. House would run Vegas as a business, which is more or less all Vegas ever was. House controlling Vegas and rebuilding the his slice of the world would produce technologic exports to NCR and any other potential uprising nations of stability (Not the Legion since they are ludites).

Also, who cares if House only saves just Vegas? He still saves Man to a larger extent than the US Government ever did, and he is establishing his own business zone. You need a business mindset to truly understand how things would pull in the long run.

Pants were actually first discovered in the sixth century BCE and are believed to be born out of necessity when riding a horse. Who would want to wear a kilt/kirtle on a horse's back?

The Romans did not wear pants because they felt it was the garb of "barbarians".

People who have the vision of the whole north America (if not the world) rebuild and prosper?

The more I discuss House on the forum, the I am less impressed by him. I used to say House try to get people straight back to pre-war state, now I think he is satisfy at finish off what he have own and planed before the bombs drop....he simply does not have the vision to led humanity into the next golden age.

But that's all he wants...!

House's passion is for science and progress. His ultimate goal is to spark that progress again. NCR wants only to set up a state similar to the Pre-War USA, while House wants to bring humanity beyond that, under him. It's made incredibly clear that "leading humanity into the next golden age" is House's vision.

Why arn't the enclave or the boomers in this thread, I think they both have more to be agreed with than the chairmen

The more I think about it, the more I doubt it. What he really wants is his former enterprise in pre-war shape and "interrupted" plans back on track. He simply didn't learn anything from the Great War, or think there could be anything came out of it. His imagination would either dry up as his rocket get into space, or made the same mistake the pre-war government did.

If House want to share his technology in any from, why would he brother to chase NCR off the Mojave? sure slowly blend into NCR would increase trade and his influence over a large population, capable of achieving and benefit more.

And look how that's working for them, a dictatotship is better then democracy as long as leader isn't out of his head.HOLD YOUR TUNG PROFLIGATE.

His "interrupted plans" were scientific progress. They were interrupted by the Great War, not sure what you mean when you say he's gonna make the same mistake. He doesn't want the bureaucracy and government that caused the War - he's mending those mistakes by creating a state with a despotic leader and invincible army - protecting the lands and assets of New Vegas and the Mojave.

He doesn't want to chase the NCR out of the Mojave...

That is what Yes Man is for.

I am not sure if launching a colonial spacecraft is any kind of scientific progress; after all, all the technology was there, but the pre-war folks is skeptical about people's social behavior.

Despotic Leader and invincible army, protecting the land of America....does this sound familiar to you?

As for that ending....did you

House only cares about himself and his precious City.

How is space exploration and the reestablishing of robotic research (starting up the RobBo facilities again, as House said he plans to do) NOT scientific progress? It's pretty straight forward dude. As of right now humanity is scientifically stagnant - House wants to change that.

"While these achievements yielded many immediate benefits, they were all part of House's master plan to re-ignite mankind's quest for technological advancement, a plan without which the human race has nowhere to go, and nowhere to turn." -his obituary

Doesn't sound like what led to the Great Wr if that's what you're implying. If you're comparing House to the Enclave you're quite mistaken. Not sure how you compare scientific progress to genocide.

You must have missed something dude