Who do you consider your personal nemesis?

Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:04 pm

Out of all the people and leaders you can oppose in New Vegas, we all have one that draws out a more personal hate. That special kind of enemy that could compell you to walk the world just for a fight. Who is your personal nemesis, and why?
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lucy chadwick
 
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:27 pm

my courier, the king of an indie vegas, smartest, luckiest, and most skilled man in the whole mojave, killed all his nemesis before he came to power. Although i'd say he didn't really hate any of them besides benny, and even benny served his purpose. He couldn't have forged indie vegas without the bull or bear, and granted ceaser was slain, but lanuis left the dam humbled, hopefully with a lesson learned, and the ncr is vegas's biggest customer


So i guess the only one that the courier hated was benny, and he did walk across the mojave to fight him
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:42 pm

Oliver is the worst of that list.

House, Caesar, Ulysses? Hell, potentially even Benny....They all deserve respect. House, Caesar and Ulysses will tell you their plan and they'll justify it. They'll argue and show you they've done their homework, and while you may not agree with their conclusions, you should give them respect because what they say makes sense. To me, speaking with House, Caesar and Ulysses....it's as if the three of them were to show you a chalkboard, showing a mathematical equation as to why their actions are the best solution. The math is all there, and it's correct. It all adds up, just as they claim. BUT! But that does not mean there isn't another solution, another equation. Just because their equation is logically sound, doesn't mean you can't find another equation to apply that's also logically sound, but suits your style more.
And that's exactly how it is for me with those three. I have a lot of respect for them as they've put thought and reason behind their work, but I simply disagree with their goals, and thus I'll work on my own. Having said that, I'm not one to interrupt their work; let Caesar live and may he have a chance to lead his Legion to glory in Arizona, let Ulysses live and may he find new purpose.

And Benny? For what it's worth, even though he IS a snake that'll slit your throat if given the chance, I can't help but feel like he's got his moments of honesty. He's lying through his teeth when he says he'll work with you, sure, but when he's talking about his dedication to his plan and his desire for Indy Vegas? Maybe I'm stupid, but I believe him. In the face of death, when he's out of options to slit your throat, he doesn't desperately try to weasel his way out and keep going; no, he lets you in on his plan and encourages you to see it through. That to me says that although Benny maybe be absolutely ruthless in seeing his plan through, this is bigger than just him and his ambitions; he's serious about the need for an Indy Vegas, though we may never know why. But he truly believes in it and every throat he slits, he does it for a cause he believes in. If nothing else, you gotta give him that.


And who is Oliver? Just a child with a gun. He's an idiot who wants nothing more than fame and glory, the "why" of it doesn't matter. Such an ideology in the hands of a man with that much influence and power is dangerous. He's wreckless, careless and negligent, and with him in such a position of power, a lot of people are likely to die without the man ever stopping to justify those deaths, only caring about how much money and power he gains from it all.


And thus, I found myself saying "eh, what the hell" when I saw the option to toss him off the Dam. :biggrin:
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:57 am

And thus, I found myself saying "eh, what the hell" when I saw the option to toss him off the Dam. :biggrin:

When I saw that dialogue option, I thought it was a bluff. I was pleasantly surprised when Yes Man actually went through with it :D
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:12 am

House.
That bastard!
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JD FROM HELL
 
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:23 am

No-Bark Noonan! I will make you rue the day you swindled me of over 2000 caps in Caravan if it's the last thing I ever do!
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:16 pm

Kimball/Oliver.

I hate what the NCR has turned into.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:29 pm

Father Elijah. The [censored] striped me of everything, strapped me with an explosive collar, forced me to go through a trap infested hellhole, all to further his own gains. I was simply a pawn on his own game, until I turned the tables on him. One of the most satisfying moments in New Vegas.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:45 pm

I voted, Caeser.

Caeser. I kill the stupid, phychopathic, sixist, sick, filth, obscene, bastard the first chance I get.
Everything CL dies on sight.

Ullysses, I shut him and and his stupid, nonsensical waffling up the first chance I get, then slaughter him with extreme predjudice.

Father Elijah. I hate him. Nasty, stupid, bastard. But never got to the point I could kill him. Never finished the piece of crap dlc.
But, he is a straightforward villain.
Got to respect a man who makes no excuses for his villainy. He is bad, he knows it, he's honest.

Benny. Piece of crap, sleazey, obnoxious, scumbag. He dies the first chance I get.
He goes up against the man who made his tribes success.
With no thought to how it could go wrong for the Boot Riders/The Chairmen. A group that are actually calm, fairly honourable people.
Selfish bastard.

I don't get why people hate General Oliver. He's ok. He's a bit pompous, but he does what he's meant to.
Serves the NCRs interests. Does what they ask of him.
Nothing wrong with that.
He's not evil.

Mr House is awesome. :smile:
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:01 am

Caesar.

It's good to enter the fort with a squad of enclave troops (enclave commander mod) and shoot everything that moves.
I don't see how anyone could sympathize with such a horrid organization,nothing they do is justifiable.

Screw house.
Nothing but an egomaniac under the guise of psedo-intelligence.
Always feels good to shoot him.

Benny.
A charming guy,I'll give him that.
I don't hate Benny,he's committed,and he's determined.
Respectable guy.

Elijah,who likes him?
Seriously,what is there to like about this guy?
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:20 pm

I voted, Caeser.

Caeser. I kill the stupid, phychopathic, sixist, sick, filth, obscene, bastard the first chance I get.
Everything CL dies on sight. :smile:
I think I've asked you this 3 times before: Why do you hate Legion to such an extent that you feel the need to perform a genocide?

Here are the other times I've asked you:

First time: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1385847-which-npc-make-you-the-angriest/page__st__30__p__21054662#entry21054662

Second time: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1389885-so-does-opening-that-truck-up-there-kill-the-legion-or-just-piss-them-off/page__st__30__p__21136513#entry21136513

Third time: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1381858-dead-money-why-does-it-get-so-much-hate/page__st__60__p__21143872#entry21143872

Please, by all means, give us a constructive post as to why you hate Legion.


Oh and this: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1381858-dead-money-why-does-it-get-so-much-hate/page__view__findpost__p__21147702 Is not constructive criticism, it's just... "Complaining", about the same things over and over again.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:43 pm

Just the NCR in general: Oliver, Kimball, Sergeant McGee, what-ever. They all die.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:16 pm

Just the NCR in general: Oliver, Kimball, Sergeant McGee, what-ever. They all die.
this, except you forgot Moore...
She be a house pet by the time im down with her...

er i dont mean that sixually in any way
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:49 pm

this, except you forgot Moore...
She be a house pet by the time im down with her...

er i dont mean that sixually in any way
Yeah... don't know how you could have expressed yourself less sixually there old-sport :P.

All of the NCR, [censored] them all.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 am

No-Bark Noonan! I will make you rue the day you swindled me of over 2000 caps in Caravan if it's the last thing I ever do!

You lose to No-Bark? He is a guaranteed 800 caps per play for me. A bit of advice. Buy and collect every 10, 9 and 7 you can find. Then make sure your play deck only contains these cards.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:15 am

Oliver is the worst of that list.

House, Caesar, Ulysses? Hell, potentially even Benny....They all deserve respect. House, Caesar and Ulysses will tell you their plan and they'll justify it. They'll argue and show you they've done their homework, and while you may not agree with their conclusions, you should give them respect because what they say makes sense. To me, speaking with House, Caesar and Ulysses....it's as if the three of them were to show you a chalkboard, showing a mathematical equation as to why their actions are the best solution. The math is all there, and it's correct. It all adds up, just as they claim. BUT! But that does not mean there isn't another solution, another equation. Just because their equation is logically sound, doesn't mean you can't find another equation to apply that's also logically sound, but suits your style more.
And that's exactly how it is for me with those three. I have a lot of respect for them as they've put thought and reason behind their work, but I simply disagree with their goals, and thus I'll work on my own. Having said that, I'm not one to interrupt their work; let Caesar live and may he have a chance to lead his Legion to glory in Arizona, let Ulysses live and may he find new purpose. [...]

This exactly

Any of the NCR big-wigs. They're only there for greed and glory.
The Legion may be 'old fashioned' but they get the job done and bring order without the greed and corruption that the NCR brings.

Though i have to say i still dislike House even though he does validate his ideas well, much to his dismay when i pull the plug on him :D
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:53 pm

Mick, for showcasing the perforator but not having it available in stock. Also for only having 10 throwing knives ever. The potential wasted on both.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:06 am

On that list, I think Caesar has the worst plan- he may have an excellent Roman army, but I see no way how his social structure is better than that of actual old Rome (eg. treat slaves and woman much worse, make stability much more defendant on one mortal Emperor).

However, on that list, the only person who strikes me as a personal nemesis is Ulysses. The major faction leaders don't hate me unless I attack first. Even Benny doesn't really have any personal hatred of you, he just wants to chip and no witnesses. Only Ulysses views me as his nemesis, and so I make the feeling mutual.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:38 pm

For me, it would have to be Benny. Ruthless snake. Blasting his head off in Caesar's tent was satisfying.

Oliver was the runner up in getting a bullet in the head. Nobody likes a glory hound. Plus, I dislike the NCR in general. Like many others have said in-game, NCR will only bring back the corruption and division the Old World USA had.

Caesar was a man of conviction. His actions were brutal, true, but he could create a new Rome without the problems the NCR has. I respected him for that at least.

Mr. House, as condescending as he was at times, did have humanity's best interests, even if his plans to recreate Vegas was flawed. (The past should stay in the past.)

Ulysses? I consider him to be mentor rather than a nemesis to the player. I mean, sure he threatened to rain armageddon over the Mojave, but at the same time, he teaches the courier how our action and inaction can generate consequences on a larger scale. And considering he was willing to back down and fight against the Marked Men with you shows he's not that malicious.

Barton Thorn. Got me killed many times trying to rescue his 'wife' on my first playthrough. Watching him die from bear traps and land mines never gets old.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:17 pm

Barton Thorn. Got me killed many times trying to rescue his 'wife' on my first playthrough. Watching him die from bear traps and land mines never gets old.

No wonder you got killed, you're supposed to look for his daughter.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:43 pm

No wonder you got killed, you're supposed to look for his daughter.

Yeah he's really nice and polite if you look for his daughter. He gave me an AMR.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:29 am

The guy near Goosprings? He betrays and tries to kill you every time you manage to clear the path to the weapons stash.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:08 am

My evil half-brother Sarevok To me it's Benny, as he goes as a more of an personal nemesis than any faction characters, IMO.
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Post » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:40 am



No wonder you got killed, you're supposed to look for his daughter.

Actually it's his girlfriend he gave me an Alien Blaster when I found her. He probably killed the guy because he wanted no commitments and as soon as the word "wife" was in her head there was no turning back.
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Post » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:15 pm

Kimball/Oliver.

I hate what the NCR has turned into.

Just the NCR in general: Oliver, Kimball, Sergeant McGee, what-ever. They all die.

These. My current character and even myself, to an extent, hate the NCR.
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