say what?

say what?
Some Team FORTRESS 2!! Garrys Mod on Steam!

lol i have no idea what that is

Um...Wow. How are you a PC gamer?

You just broke the internet prototype.

Who me?

im not a pc gamer.. never said i was. i have 360

Crysis 2 is going to be similar to what the original was on PC, a step forward. Graphics, gameplay, sandbox design, open world (this remains to be seen), all of it will be "one small leap for PC, but a giant leap for consoles", to put it into terms.

Of course, this doesn't mean it is going to svck on PC, because it wont. The consoles are just holding back the PC version to it's full potential. However, this isn't such a bad thing, because consoles are finally getting that great experience that the PC had in 2007. Hopefully it will all come full circle with Crysis 3 if it does happen. Next generation of consoles maybe.

All I know is that the console wars need to stop. What's done is done, and nothing is going to change it. When you get down to it, we are all on here for the same reason: Crysis 2, and it is going to be pretty much the same thing when we all put the disc in our systems on March 22nd.

im not a pc gamer.. never said i was. i have 360
Well the Alienware and the fact you wanted Crysis gave way.

Sorry Im just so used to PC gamers here.

i played a couple smaller type games on my alienware but i just stick to 360 games

Internet syndrome.

I think it's almost like racism and should be banned. It may be an opinion, but so many people in the internet keep flaming and insulting people. Some people are like this: "Oh he's console player. I'm not gonna talk to him." Sometimes I think PC-Gamers are the more ignorant people I know and I feel ashamed for beeing a PC-Gamer.

EDIT: U2RoKKeR you're right, 2 seconds after Crysis 2 comes out, there won't be any plattform wars anymore. It' always like this.

WELL SAID MAN!!people need to concentrate on playing games rather than flaming others.

I think it's more this community tbh, most of the portal 2 fans were very happy about the cross platform play with ps3 (including me)

i think the only worries were that if it would mean that very hard puzzles would be harder with a controller using teammate. But i can't see that happening in co-op in the main campaign

I'm really hoping they add in kb+m support anyway for consoles, and then extend the cross platform to all multiplatform games. The 360 can just be left out due to microsoft's greed. A greed that has already lost them one platform.

The Comfy Chair, I am sorry but your views of Microsoft are afflicting your views with the Xbox.

That ending statement, even though I know thats not you, was a bit of a come off from a fanboy.

Also I dont want the Xbox to be left out of the dust, it will just show that everyone is just wrong about the whole Multiplatform solutions are becoming more fluent in the gaming industry today.

Why should Johnny be left out of Crysis 2 if he has ONLY a Xbox, but he is becoming a fan of this game and probably the franchise but instantly your just cutting him lose with exclusive **** and showing one console a Cold Shoulder and another the door.

It's not an issue of the players, they don't deserve to be left out, but that's what'll happen. Microsoft have proven to be greedy and clumsy with how they're handling the xbox 360, just like how the handled windows as a gaming platform. If they don't sort themselves out the 360 will end up dying. I won't care personally, as the 360 has done nothing to encourage competition or improvements in gaming since 2007, but microsoft should be supporting their (too loyal) fans.

There's only so many times even the most rabid fanboy can brown-nose microsoft after the ps3 gets yet another bit of free DLC (that they have to pay $10 for) and dedicated servers as standard from steam (which i foresee as being quite widespread, as it will likely kill second hand sales, making the ps3/pc combo a much better option for developers and publishers than risk second hand sales galore on 360 to care about it much).

I trust something will give before too long though, and it'll start with relaxing the xbl service (free online gaming as standard for a start, and allowing steamworks onto the 360) otherwise the pressure from valve and sony will crush it.

'tis funny that a quite large threat to the 360 now comes from the platform that M$ abandoned.

PS3 dont get Dedicated Servers, ACTUALLY there **** isnt even FIXED. Jailbreak ring a bell? Black Ops maybe shutting down its PS3 servers?

MS is a good company, same with Activision.

Forbes humped Activision Blizzards legs because of how much there making and how there good.

Also MS is making mad money with Kinect, PS3 Move is doing good but not great.

Im not trying to sound like im sticking up for the Xbox 360, but your coming off as attacking certain platforms.

PS3 dont get Dedicated Servers, ACTUALLY there **** isnt even FIXED. Jailbreak ring a bell? Black Ops maybe shutting down its PS3 servers?

MS is a good company, same with Activision.

Forbes humped Activision Blizzards legs because of how much there making and how there good.

Also MS is making mad money with Kinect, PS3 Move is doing good but not great.

Im not trying to sound like im sticking up for the Xbox 360, but your coming off as attacking certain platforms.
^ agreed

The ps3 will get dedicated servers for any game using steamworks ^^, so we'll see how that progresses on that platform (I predict well).

Also activision are a HORRIBLE COMPANY, beyond belief. They are AGAINST new IP's ('we will take no risks, ever' -kotick), if crytek were under AV we would have never seen crysis and would be on far cry 28. Activison are the epitome of all that is wrong in gaming at the moment. They should collapse and all the developers move over to others (even EA is far better). They are just as bad as the company they spawned from.

I'm interested to see how it'll pan out anyway, since steam is a very powerful tool Valve have created a platform as big as the consoles without needing specific hardware, and i've no doubt they're not particularly best buddies with microsoft at the moment after they refused steamworks on 360 because of the free updates and DLC.

Also, kinect is coming to PC soon

P.S. It's no so much as an attack on the xbox as a warning of the future if M$ don't react to what's happening on other platforms. Still, the 360's time is nearly up, as M$ will kill it stone dead when the xbox 3 comes out anyway, just like the original. So it won't matter much anyway!

Steamworks hasnt even been finalized. There has been NO details on the Steamworks for PSN. All there is, is that Portal 2 will have cross plat game play, and that Portal 2 for PS3 will include Portal 2 digital copy for Steam PC.

Check on Forbes, Activision is crowned as one of the best businesses ever. I know they are evil and have a bad image but as a business they are better then EA.

EA is gaining Picture to Public but has less money then they did as a enforcing business.

Again, MS said no to Valve BECAUSE they never worked one on one with each other. Sony and Valve did. Gabe Newell is the founder, guess where Gabe Newell came from? Oh! MICROSOFT! Also Gabe Newell doesnt know whats on his mind, he says PS3 svcks ass then goes to say the same for Xbox Live, he is as Unpredictable as Teen Moms.

Kinect is coming to the PC? Well guess who is putting it on there? Oh! MICROSOFT!!

Its a great warning but Steamworks for PSN will just be a feature, in other words, its just going to be the samething, Free DLC for Valve games, Free Copy of Steam PC if you buy for PS3 and support.

I also APPLAUD Sony for acting where MS flawed. That is the first time in a while that MS said "Oh no." to Sony's stradegy.

But I dont applaud the fact that Sony is a black hole swallowing new companies that made one game for the console. Media Molecule could of kept there mark as revolutionary, but instead the promised LBP is getting a unpromised sequel. Why? Sony says so.

But again as a business, Sony wins on that too.

Consoles limit the game engine. The company starts marketing to mainly the consoles, and ignores PC.

They are even cutting some features completely from the CryEngine 3 because it doesn't "scale down on the consoles". What a sad waste of a game engine, in my opinion.

Read: http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2903/crytek-crysis-2-on-ps3360-forces-pc-cuts

And also, my very detailed thread on how consoles are bad for the PC: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/topic5818/

Well good news Frogging! CE4 will have more of the same for the PC and Consoles as it did with CE3!

seems like its here to stay.

No way are activision better than EA. Name an IP that has done something different or been a bit risky coming from activison in the last 3 years. Now try EA.

Sony are indeed not an awesome company either, it's the reason they have so many exclusives! However I don't feel that the microsoft attitude to 'gamers as a cash cow' is a particularly good one to have Nice to know they'll never take over PC gaming though, since if they tried valve would likely create a steam OS and we'd all go to that. Also valve have worked with M$ since 2007, and have consistently complained about how they handle XBL. This would've been the last straw.

Anyways, i can guarantee that steam will become quite useful on ps3 as a marketing tool, and as an actual useful interface for bringing more gaming communities together

Look EA is BETTER and risky but remember, Activision has WoW, and Blizzard, also has Call of Duty. COD alone makes almost as much as EA does.

But nothing is wrong with XBL

Team Meat, who made Super Meat Boy has FREE DLC for the XBL version. They did it by FINDING loop holes WITH the help of MS!

I dont know where it is but the source is somewhere and you could find it probably on the Team Meat blog.

Also Steam will! But I doubt Sony wants Steam to take over the PSN.

Remember that the PSN still has its restrictions and of course SONY knows it.

Steam is actually THE BEST thing for PC, it beats PSN and XBL. It is the OS of the ages. Nothing will beat it unless they try to revolutionize the way business conflicts with gaming.

PSN for steamworks is nonsense. Haha. No f****** way! It will works only with Valve's games.

I don't give a **** about some "cool exclusives", because almost Sony's exclusives is "me too", I have no time to play all of them. MS is great company, really making decisions and changing the world. End of story.