First off.....no one MADE you buy this game. Second, no one makes you keep playing.

THat said, I've been playing games since the old Sega Master System days. I've played more games than most of you, I'd be willing to bet.

People write that the Elder Scrolls is dead, blah blah blah....

What is so bad about this game? In most aspects, the game is beautiful. The music is awesome. I remember when a game was nothing but some beeps strung together looped to form a melody.

The story is good. I prefer the Dragon and Civil War plots, over the Oblivion Gates. The NPC's are varied with well done voice acting. Skyrim is the "Norway" of Tamriel, and Most NPCs speak with the correct accent.

Here are one of the complaints I read....."BOO HOO Im too OP". this one give me a lol. They're "OP" but yet they want to wear the best enchanted armor and use the best enchanted weapons.....doh

The addition of perks is a great idea borrowed from TES's sister, the Fall Out series. Nothing wrong with it, and it works well. I appluad Bethesda for investing into the creation of this game. A game this huge had to have been very expensive. I applaud the extra effort to keep the LORE alive. Can you imagine how much effort (money) went into just writing stories for all the different books found lying about, even though they know that a good portion of gamers do not even take the time to read them. That is a prime example of the attention to detail and dedicationthat went into the creation of this game.

Thank you Bethesda, for creating this amazing sandbox for us to play in. 07

No one here actually hates it. Almost everyone likes/loves it.

Most complaints are from fans who enjoyed the previous games more and are upset with the direction the series has taken. Or people who are upset at Bethesda for leaving out perfectly good features.

^ditto.

BTW it probably hurts your credibility of liking quality games when you're sporting an avatar from Brink....

Not telling you to change, just saying...

Put it this way, 7 million plus in sales in a week and less then a percentage of those have come here to gripe. It's the norm of any hyped release. The vibe you read here is nothing new in the gaming community. The repetitive negative vibe will die down in another month or two.

Bethesda did good!!!

I agree with you but stop complaining about people complaining.

haters gonna hate.

People are more likely to be on a forum to whine and complain. The people that either casually play it, love it, or find it perfect or playing it.

Also, people logging a hundred hours and complaining about something. That equates to them logging five times the amount of content that's present in most games, and complaining about it.

What's QQ'ing? :huh:

That's like saying Pol Pot was fine because Hitler was worse. (Yes, exaggerated, but you get my point.)

haha Brink was so so...but I really like the art in that game. THe colors etc....

this /thread.

Yah, those peeps are the type who will always gripe even if they get hung with a new rope. :rolleyes:

QQ = crying

Dead on. Coming from the World of Warcraft community it's the same thing. Read up on all their class forums, even to this day it's an endless whinefest and lot of the vocal ones have been supplying Blizzard 15 bucks a month for years. A new player reading the WOW forums may come to the conclusion it's the worst game in MMO history and no one plays it, haha.

Well in all fairness Blizzard managed to transform it from awesome into crappy.

10 million subs after 5 plus years on the market for a MMO is amazing numbers regardless of whether you think the game is crappy.. As with Skyrim can't please all...

Go look at the loss of subscribers after WotLK, it's fun to see.

When the new rumored WOW killah, Star Wars by Bioware is able to attain 10 million after 5 years on the market, get back to me :biggrin:

I think the game is fun but OP don't be so quick on judging those that complain. How long have you played and have you tried every aspect of this game already? There are skills and perks that definitely make this game way to easy when they shouldn't. For example, sneaking above level 50 makes you completely invisible to AI except in broad daylight which eliminates any sense of excitement playing as an assassin/thief.

In a year or two from now when all the great mods come out this game will be amazing. Until then its just - fun.

From what I can tell, the complaints are

1. Destruction doesn't scale with level
2. Some perks aren't useful
3. It's not WoW
4. What do you mean don't use a skill/spell that I don't like or consider OP? I'd be gimpin my toon dude!! :facepalm:

the magic system is not TES quality (less than 100 spell effects, that is counting repeat spells that jus cast in a different way and shouts), no journal (i dont count that quest screen because it give little to no information about the quest), some people dont like the map (im indefferent, it is not functional and gives away too much information about the land, imo, but i dont use it that much), combined armour slots and less NPCs than oblivion (go count the people at the battle of bruma and you will see how little skyrim actually ever has at once), loss of atributes (those help define a character, not needed but they add depth and a bit of fun), loss of some skills (thats over the whole of TES, we used to have a climbing skill, remember? what about acrobatics? bot of those would be usful in the mountains of skyrim)

those are a few of the, perfectly valid, complaints about the game that should be fixed, if people dont "cry" about it then how will bethesda know to fix them?

5. Skyrim suxxor and Bethesda can't code worth crap! Why is my 6450 video card not optimized by Bethesda to run Skyrim!!
6. We want Face Zoom back! It created immersion when time stopped and the npc face zoomed in when I spoke to him!
7. Where are my attributes! My strength is at 79, sure I didn't notice much difference in damage compared to when my strength was sitting at 50 but I still want it!

And no one is making you read those threads.

Ahhhh... the QQing about the QQing... no irony lost.

This. I for one have been very vocal with extremely questionable design choices (if they are even intentional and not bugs or oversights), but I still think that the game is overall pretty good. Once the CK arrives it will be even better, but it also won't be the same game then.

Side note: The thing is, subscription loss is bad, but WoW is ridiculously large. The game is not atop the marble pedestal it was 4 years ago, that is for sure. Prior to their new (May I mention, the second: "Guys This is the LAST expansion we will make... super serious this time") expansion, WoW is currently sitting atop a rather well made pillar... constructed entirely of Balsa wood.

Realistically it will never go away though. I mean GODS have you seen the player numbers for NwN, the Original, made in 2000 game? If NwN is still around, WoW will be played until the day you and I are dead and buried. They'll have to port it to Holodecks. Wesley Crusher will play it between sessions of sweeping out the stains from Reginald Barclay's time with Holo-troy.


To Address the OP: Dude, honestly this kind of stuff happens on every game forum these days. Part of it is the groups of PC gamers who think their word is law, and rule over all of gaming by Divine right. Part of it is Console tards. Part of it is trolls. Part of it is Gamers who expect perfection out of everything.

Honestly though, I have been big on forums for 3 titles this year: One that got horrible reviews, one that got mediocre reviews, and Skyrim. The exact same complaints were aired on all three forums: Game is unplayable because of X, this series is a failure and we should demand a refund for it because it wasn't worth the money, there wasn't enough playtesting because obviously if there was someone would have spotted bug Y. Somewhere in the boondocks of civilization, there is someone who thinks that something you don't really take all that seriously, is horrible to the point of being sacrilegious... Sometimes they have a reason to be cross, sometimes they don't. All in all it doesn't matter. You can't do anything to change their minds, and they think your an idiot. They will also freely state the aforementioned fact.

As has been said: Haters gotta hate.