Why are bad guys so stupid

Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:58 pm

Seriously, i was just watching the end of Hancock, and the guy had his chance, he could've just blown out his brains, but he kept talkin and talkin and talkin, and a guy comes up and chops off his arm...

Why do villains always ruin their chances to do anything by talking too much
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Alyce Argabright
 
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:31 pm

What can I say? We like to gloat. :whistling:
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:05 pm

The main character usually never dies in movies so they try and make it suspenseful in the end.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:40 pm

Because if the bad guy won, it might "offend" people. You know people, they like cliches and "morals".
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:15 pm

The main character usually never dies in movies so they try and make it suspenseful in the end.


what's suspenseful about doing something 1000s of other people have already done
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Adam Baumgartner
 
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:22 am

Has to be in favor of the good guy I guess :shrug:
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Javaun Thompson
 
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:47 am

Because the good guy has to win and it has to be in the face of overwhelming odds and so, for that to work out the bad guy has to be a total moron.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:01 pm

'Cause it's a movie trope? :P
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Avril Churchill
 
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:47 am

I liked watchman, it subverted this all to hell, i guess his end justified his means tho
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matt white
 
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:40 pm

I hate it too. It's a dumb deus ex machina to make the protagonist always win.

Anyone ever seen the rewinding seen from Funny Games? I wish all villains could do that.
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Kieren Thomson
 
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:02 pm

Heh, when I read the thread title I immediately thought of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUslGSoEH8I
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:13 pm

I'm assuming you didn't like the movie?
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:51 am

Because good always wins. Even if thats a lie.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:35 pm

Hey, complete narcissists love to talk about themselves and such. The #1 weakness of any bad guy, narcissism. Hell, sometimes the heros will exploit that weakness, then foil their plans. At least in the Watchmen, the guy had the brains to have his big plan happen before the Watchmen could do anything.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:46 pm

Usually it's because the bad guy wants his deeds to be fully recognised, or because he's trying to justify his crimes either to himself or the world in general. Most (well-written) baddies have underlying inadequacies that drove them towards the desperate actions they took in the first place, and the endgame gloating or "monologuing" is part of the big psychological payoff they've been working towards. Without gloating over your vanquished enemy, how could they know the extent of their defeat? :P
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:19 am

It's like when the bad guys proceed with the unnecessarily slow dipping process into a pool of something "bitey".
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:54 pm

Seriously, i was just watching the end of Hancock, and the guy had his chance, he could've just blown out his brains, but he kept talkin and talkin and talkin, and a guy comes up and chops off his arm...

Why do villains always ruin their chances to do anything by talking too much


Because they need a way to make the good guy win, that is just the oldest and most boring trick in the book.

BladeMaster's post reminded me of a Doctor Evil quote.

" I have an even better idea. I'm going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death."

I have to :P
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:30 am

If they blew the good guy's brains out at every opportunity then there's a good chance it would be a very short, uneventful movie. It came pretty late in Hancock, but it's not uncommon to see that sort of thing pop up early on in a lot of films and games.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:05 pm

Not all villians are that dumb.
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Post » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:39 am

Because they need a way to make the good guy win, that is just the oldest and most boring trick in the book.

BladeMaster's post reminded me of a Doctor Evil quote.

" I have an even better idea. I'm going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death."

I have to :P


That's what I was thinking of too. I've been watching the old James Bond movies with Connery and Moore, and the slow dip into a pool with only one henchman in the area who is focused on pushing that slow leaver down always seems to be the case.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:11 pm

Maybe it's because with their better outfits and better song sequences, something has to balance it out.
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Tyrel
 
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:00 pm

Watchmen.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:03 pm

It's probably because the writers just realize that they'vwe written themselves into a corner, and can't figure out how to have the hero succeed if the villain takes advantage of his oportunity to just shoot him, so they have him gloat or put the hero into a deathtrap that ultimately leaves a chance to escape or something like that.

Alternately, it's just a cliche everyone does, so writers think that they have to do it too, and writers are afraid that if they break cliche by having villains not act like idiots, they might be less successful. After all, it's not like we can have heroes who win because they're as clever or badass as we're told they are and not because their enemies are stupid. That would require writers to put some thought into it.
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:39 pm

3:10 to Yuma
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Post » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:28 pm

They like to hear there own voice. It's all like:

Bad guy: "Ha ha, I've got you now, punk! *diabolical laugh* Its so fun to see you flippin' scared as heck as I point this gun at you. I look so badass. I'm so evil, I feel warm inside. Muhahaaha! Which reminds me. When I was born onto this world, I was dying, not living...."

Good guy: "Jeez, I didn't ask for your life story. I feel sorry for your mum, having such an ugly baby. I mean, why did the doctors bother to even..."

BG: "DON'T PATRONISE ME! GOSH!"

GG: "Gosh? You call yourself a villian and yet you say gosh? That's sad man."

BG: *growls* "Fine then!" *swears loudly*

GG: Now you're acting childish.

BG: Hey! Who's the one with the gun, huh?

GG: You are.

BG: It was a RHETORICAL question! You ain't meant to answer it! Now...Before I kill you....

GG: *Rolls eyes* "Just kill me already. With you talking, its worse than death. It's torture.

BG: SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! *points gun threatningly*

GG: Oh, bugger. I though you was gunna pull the trigger.

BG: Just. Let. Me . Talk.

GG: You. Sound. Really. Stupid. When. You. Talk, Like. This. Just. Speak. Nor-ma-lly.

BG: You hypocrite! *glares*

GG: No, I was actually mocking you.

BG: GRRRRRRRRR. Well, just listen ok?

GG: *sigh* Ok.

BG: I never asked you to answer!

GG: I never asked you to talk.

BG: JUST LISTEN!

GG: JUST KILL ME ALREADY!

BG: I'll kill you....after.

GG: *under breath* Oh, balls.

BG: Ok, so I was always picked on at a young age...

GG: I can tell that by your face. Actually, I would've joined 'em.

BG: Didn;t your mum ever tell not to talk back?

GG: Didn't your mum ever tell you to not take over the world, create minions, tie up the good cop that tries to save the fellow citizen then rave at him with your high ptich, annoying voice?

BG: JUST. SHUT. THE. F-

-gun shot fires, BG falls to ground, dead-

GG: Thank God. He' was getting on my nerves. What's your name, fellow citizen?

Unkown dude: What? I'm the REAL Bad Guy here. He was just a corrupt minion! Anyways, before I kill you....

GG: Lord, please show me mercy, please Lord.
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