so what I understand from this game is:

• there are dragons
  
• there are humans
  
• there are other humanoids
  
• there is a big evil dragon who wants to eat the world
  
• there is a dovahkiin who can stop that from happening

to me this doesn't imply that the one person who can negotiate with the dragons is supposed to kill all of them.

can't we find a way to settle this like advlts and kill the big evil dragon but make peace with the rest of them?

and the trolls are gonna say



EDIT: if you really read this, then you know I am not interested in negotiating with alduin, that's just a waste of breath. I am however interested in negotiating with the other dragons, like we negotiated with that one guy in the forbidden grotto.

Bilbo Baggins tried to negociate with Smaug, and got his ass burned down. Literally.

Why TES dragons would be different?

That would be specist, not racist.
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I don't think Alduin, the imprisoned god of time and invincibility and ancient enemy of men, is very interested in compromise. And I don't think the individual dragons are acting very autonomously of aforementioned Alduin, imprisoned god of time and invincibility.

I hope we can but it better be hard. No getting your speech skill up to 90 and being ok from there. You should have to do some seriously difficult stuff to get them to respect and eventually trust you.

Anyone who knows the language can negotiate with the dragons.

Obviously, the dragons aren't big on that.

The "big evil dragon" is Alduin is Akatosh. We cannot kill Alduin.

He's a god! How can you kill a god?!

If anything we'll be disabling him or just stopping his seemingly-inevitable destruction of the Mundus. Or something else. Hell, I don't know. Better be a good explanation for it though.

There cant be negotiation. The dragons are trying to eat the world. Not to mention, being dragon born just means that he is a descendant of the septim line. The last descendant.

Yeah....The kind Leaper Devil King tried negotiating with Alduin. Look how that turned out, he's now cursed as Mehrunes Dagon, forever doomed to try and try again to destroy Mundus so that he can leap again and teach those how to leap away from the mouth of Alduin.

Don't know how to answer as apart from the videos and tones, we don't know if all are hostile, how many are.
What the solution will be to resolve the quest, or pretty much anything than some fighting is involved.
That they're the focus of the dispute, you may end up having to stop a Nord faction instead to complete the game.

We do know that that you can fight them.
That you can kill them.
That some will attack you.
That you're the Dragonborn.
That dragons fear you?, but not why.


Hahahaha.. because TeS is different.
Seriously I see AD&D's faerun in TeS than LOTR, and in that they're many types of dragons, even the evil ones talk more than randomly kill.

Yes!

I'm going to RP Dr. Phil in Nerf mode.

Dragon just needs a hug...

Alduin needs to kill everyone for some reason, I forgot what it was though. If someone is chasing you with an axe you not gonna stop and ask how they feel about it. Also there will be some dragons that arn't bad and wont attack you on sight

I didn't say Alduin shouldn't die!

I ment that the fact that dragons are for now in trailers and stuff seen as oblivion gates, randomly appearing, destructible and optaining magical powers in the process, is rather disturbing to me, these dragons have their own script. they should have there own voice and there free will, can't they help you free the dragons from Alduin's grasp and maybe, just maybe, let you idk, ride them in to battle? become one with them?

To be honest I even felt bad for the dremora I was slayin in oblivion.

Actually, killing Alduin is quite possible as he is aedra, I think.

Yeah lets send a embassador to the dragons.Who want to go first? :hubbahubba:

I think it should be the only option, after all how exactly to kill a dragon god of time? spank him with a sword?

Or maybe convert him back to being akatosh

After all, if you could kill time, literally, wouldn't it destroy everything?

I didn't mean that I did not want to defeat / kill / whatever Alduin.

I ment I didn't want to kill an intire spiecies (with humanoid brain) just because it gives me powers.

Well, if I were a mighty fire breathing dragon, and I saw some little humanoid pipsqueak come to my lair and try to negtiate a truce or peace, I'd be like:

'LOL, peace with my prey? LOLOLOLOLOLOL, no, how about I just BBQ roast you right now and have my nom noms? Mmmmmmm, yummy humanoid pipsqueak!'

You're missing some lore facts. According to legends and rumors, Alduin and Akatosh are one and the same - the dragon-god of time that was bound to the mortal realm, enabling the existence of mortals within it. Alduin's only desire is to break free from this bind, but that would render the world of Nirn uninhabitable by mortals, effectively causing their complete genocide. So, no, there is no way a mortal would negotiate with Alduin, ever.
That said, we don't know whether or not his offspring share his desire or are causing havoc of their own personal motives (or whether they can have personal motives at all) :shrug: . We'll just have to wait and see. A rogue dragon would sure be an interesting plot twist.

Awwww, dodo sympathy complex?

To be honest I even felt bad for the dremora I was slayin in oblivion.

I actually just asked in the other thread about good dragons if anyone felt sorry about having to kill all the Daedra, I didnt actually think anyone did.

How about instead of killing them, you cast a calm monster sell on them and run past?

Or just go invisible / 100% chameleon and ignore them?

Well, we all know how that ended. :toughninja:

It's too early to be thinking anything about that. We don't know exactly what the story is. What we do know is that Alduin wants to eat the world and we're going to be fighting dragons. That's all we really know. Whether they're in Alduin's "grasp" or acting of their own free will, we don't know. There's not a lot of information on dragons in TES so it's too soon to say.

You felt bad for killing Dremora? Why? That's ridiculous. The Dremora attack you first, they hate mortals, and they are immortal. When they die, they're later resurrected in Dagon's Deadlands, so you never truly killed any of them.


What makes Aedra more susceptible to being killed than any other god? No god truly "dies" in the literal sense.


:P

The difference being, Dagoth Ur was a mortal who stole godhood and we were only able to kill him after removing his godhood. Alduin is an actual god whose godhood cannot be removed.

I'm pretty sure Martin was the last of the Septim line and that there are other dragonborns besides the Septims.