Okay that clears things up. Thank you, my good sir or madam.

I'm a guy. Can't be a space (or chaos) marine if you're not at least male.

Lol, everybody seems to have different opinions on the lore. Which is funny, because its not really an opinion type question.

This soooo should've been picked as a fan interview question: Explain the f*in lore!

I've been told (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only real reason Akatosh was a benevolent God who helped out the Imperials was something to do with a pact sealed with the amulet of Kings, so when Akatosh defeated Mehrunes Dagon and the amulet was destroyed, he was free of his service to the Empire, so now he is free to eat worlds.

Go to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/forum/16-elder-scrolls-lore/. We know it.

Dragonbone, it's possible. It could be that the god of time has been freed from being in the shackles of being Akatosh. However, there is the idea, I think from the Song of Pelinal, that it was Shezarr who gave Alessia the Amulet, as some stories pointed to Pelinal, the avatar of Shezarr, to be the one who gave Alessia the Amulet.

Yes, that is true, however it was a benevolent act to make the pact. He made the pact to help protect the people of Nirn from the Heartland High Elves. They were summoning all kinds of Deadra to kill them, and Akatosh made the pact to seal the gates of Oblivion and save the people of Nirn.

The pact was more than that, but the details are not worth it (in fact, that was more of a Reman thing. Hell, Sanguin held parties during Alessia's time, Mehrunes Dagon completely destroyed Mournhold at the end of the first era, and Sotha Sil made a pact with the Deadra Princes with limitations on their interaction. All of this is in in-game books). Though Alessia's politicking, she was able to turn the god of time into a defender of man, instead of mer (who wanted Mundus to go boom) or a mad rauaging beast (nordic/original humans).

Okay, that makes very good sense! XD

I dont think you are fighting Akatosh as there are many differnt dragons.

Except that it has been established that Alduin=Auriel=Akatosh=the god of time.

Yeah, we're not fighting Akatosh, but the alter ego, Alduin, who is more of the original personality. As I said previously, Akatosh is a relatively recent incarnation of the god of time, due to Alessia's politicking.

Damn spess mehrens. Can't seem to accept the truth! You see! This is why the Ultramarines have to go!

There should be only one god... And thats the Emperor

Nah but TES has always confused me at times with its gods just spliting off into differnt personalities and being the same person but not at the same time.

that is a really great way of putting it
now i get it

Well, if it helps, people seem to accept that Lorkhan = Shor =Shezarr, but getting past the idea that Auriel = Alduin = Akatosh can be difficult, due to the [censored] imperial's dilulted and widespread belief, due to politicking and Akatosh being portrayed as a good guy in nearly every game.

Even Tiber got the idea, but knew how to handle it better, by being Talos, instead of instituting Shezarr again. Talos is pretty much a stand-in for Shezarr/Shor/Lorkhan. A much more acceptable deity for everyone, save for the Altmer of Summerset Ilse, who are more hardcoe than the nords are with Shor and their anti-merrish belief.

Okay, lets clear this up with a clean little point chart.

1. Alduin=Akatosh
2. In Elder Scrolls lore, no daedra/aedra is exclusively good nor bad. They act just like people and are capable of both good and bad actions. They can make alliances with mortals (a la Allesia) but are not bound in any way by their beliefs.
3. Lorkhan trapped Alduin (and the other Aedra) in Mundus against their wills.
4. Alduin made a pact with Allesia that he would guard the dragonborn of the Tiber Septim line.
5. The Septim line has ended and the Amulet of Kings has been broken.
6. Alduin no longer has an alliance with men and can now think exclusively for himself.
7. Being imprisoned (and tricked) by Lorkhan is enough to make anyone angry, and although the Aedra ripped up Lorkhan, they are still trapped
8. Alduin wants to escape.
9. The best way to escape is to destroy his cage.
10. Alduin is trying to destroy Nirn.

Is everything cleared up now? Good.

Me. I'd like to remain human. Gods have to put up with sooo much crap because SOOOO many people are praying, dying...

:facepalm: @ this

Could also be that he was always the Alduin persona, but just given good publicity or committing "good" actions to keep up appearances until the time was right, where there is no reason for him to keep to the charade any longer.

Because he is hungry and want eat you and all world :teehee:
Or
Because Dragonborn have some kind of connection to Lorkhan who always try safe at last of kalpa from Time Devourer side of Akatosh
Or
Alduin is Serpent and Dragonborn is avatar of Three Guardians

Will be awesome if we will have various explanations in game, like thats was in Morrowind where different sides have different histories.

Are we even sure we are fighting Alduin?

Last i heard that was all speculation just because we are fighting dragons and he is the dragon god of time.

For all we know we could be fighting the Ka'Po'Tun and there leader Tosh Raka (whom is the worlds largest Dragon at the moment)

Why did I just picture Alduin in my mind with a food bib on and a picture of nirn on the bib?

As someone who likes to play Dunmers, I say we fight Akatosh because he made the Psijic endeavor that much harder and trapped us all on Nirn. Then he iced the cake by deceiving us into believing he's our ancestor and a benevolent deity.

:flamethrower: :flamed:

Well, Alduin/akatosh isn't some push over like Mehrunes Dagon, I doubt even a dragonborn is any match for him/his avatar. Therefore I conclude we'll most likely not fight directly against Alduin, if we even fight against Alduin at all.. but we need some more information from Bethesda before we can pull conclusions.

Alduin is certainly not Akatosh. Alduin is the time-eater and Akatosh is the king of the Divines. If Akatosh was Alduin then the Dragonborn would have been killed the second he/she was born. Since the Dragonborn is alive and is destined by the gods to perform an important task then that means that Akatosh wouldn't want the Dragonborn killed.

your just going to have to play the game to find out