I understand PC games are easy targets for hackers/cracks. I understand companies like Crytek going the console route to make their money for their hard labor(they know what i mean).

I just don't see why us PC gamers who spend their money on buying original games because we like the product, are again and again swept aside. This dribble of a game Crytek calls a follow up to the classic Crysis with its excellent graphics which still have my latest pc struggling to run to its full potential is not even on par with a game like Splinter Cell or Assassins Creed's latest offerings on the graphical front. I am sure The Witcher 2 will be so much more of a graphical master piece than this. There's one company that stick to their guns.

I hate the fact that a pc game has to follow the console rules because its easier to make, and not worth the time.
I mean pls, why do i get a pat on the back if I find all the little Liberty statuettes. Just the fact that you cannot edit your graphics settings shows the disgust Crytek has towards the pc genre and they're cheating/cracking/hacking ways, not so?

With this post I am not trying to degrade Crytek which is obviously a talented company, just trying to understand why the legit users must also suffer.

I play and have always played games on the PC, I don't hate consoles, just the way the games are written for minors and the controller setup. Graphically its always blurred and grainy and not crisp like pc games.

This will be my last Crytek purchase until such a time I will be once again made proud to play a technically advanced and atmospheric game made by Crytek.

I play and have always played games on the PC, I don't hate consoles, just the way the games are written for minors and the controller setup. Graphically its always blurred and grainy and not crisp like pc games.

Get some glasses.

U have no idea then as to what I mean. Pity really!

I play and have always played games on the PC, I don't hate consoles, just the way the games are written for minors and the controller setup. Graphically its always blurred and grainy and not crisp like pc games.

Get some glasses.
He's right, actually. The AA used + the motion blur reduces sharpness considerably. The game would look much better if you could turn those off.

U have no idea then as to what I mean. Pity really!

Don't pity me, I'm enjoying decent connections and a good online experience, not to mention some pretty good visuals; and all on a machine that DIDN'T cost me a **** ton of my hard earned money

Money. Money, money money cash dollars greenbacks. Bucks dollars cents.

all those console pvssys, i bought my pc for 200EUS ! it runs all the games, u just have to know what to buy and how to get it working. if ur buying **** than u waste ur money. 250eus for **** where i have to pay for online gaming ? NO THX MS

U have no idea then as to what I mean. Pity really!

Don't pity me, I'm enjoying decent connections and a good online experience, not to mention some pretty good visuals; and all on a machine that DIDN'T cost me a **** ton of my hard earned money
TROLLIN IS FUN

Heh, what makes me laugh most are all those guys grown up on Consoles telling people what is a quality product and what is a good game. Gash....

Heh, what makes me laugh most are all those guys grown up on Consoles telling people what is a quality product and what is a good game. Gash....

THIS THIS AND THIS.

Makes me pity the next generation. Consoles and console games are great. But then, PC will always be the gaming deity. Too bad the younglings have started to forget.

Heh, what makes me laugh most are all those guys grown up on Consoles telling people what is a quality product and what is a good game. Gash....

THIS THIS AND THIS.

Makes me pity the next generation. Consoles and console games are great. But then, PC will always be the gaming deity. Too bad the younglings have started to forget.

This is why you all (read: pc gamers) whine so much. You see yourselves as high up on a hypothetical hierarchy. When you are not Basically STFU AND ENJOY YOUR GAME AND STOP ZOOMING IN ON EVERY PIECE OF GRASS.

If you want to run Crysis or any graphically demanding game on a PC but your system can't hadnle it fully, and don't want to spend a ton of money, BUILD IT YOURSELF. You are paying WAY too much on a pre-built system, they charge you for labor and all kinds of crap. Building it yourself can cut the price in half. If you don't know how, ask somebody, like me, for assistance and you might find a good computer for extremely cheap, like mine, but I can run the original Crysis on MAX settings and so far, any game EXCEPT the new AvP on MAX settings perfectly fine.

I play and have always played games on the PC, I don't hate consoles, just the way the games are written for minors and the controller setup. Graphically its always blurred and grainy and not crisp like pc games.

Get some glasses.

compare the leaves in Crysis 2 to Crysis (on a decent PC). Youll see the difference...
Even better, compare shadows or the glass of your sniper rifle. Can you see whats behind you in realtime in Crysis 2 ?
I also have a console (for things like GT5), so im not biased that much.

However Crytek COULD have done way better. It feels wrong if you get crappy console Graphics on a good PC.

we reached a level in technology where converting games between systems is an issue as they each have different level of technology

these consoles have all flaws, the big flaw here that the video card is not upgradeable, so when they come out the fairly good but at the mid and end of they life times they start to be really lame

there where plans for better consoles like the phantom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_(console) but it failed because the company simply did not had the capital comparable to big scumbag corporations like sony or MS

this problem will just grow over the next years as PC gets better and better and consoles wont get upgraded for years to come, so at the end of they life time we will be stuck with maga lame games

xbox 720 might be still years away, untill then PC gamers are doomed with near decade old looking games

this is relevant:
The Xbox 720 specs will be a significant technological leap forward
The Xbox 360 was launched in 2005, with the best technology that 2004 had to offer. Inside, it used a custom-made IBM Power PC with a trio of 3.2GHz cores and an ATI graphics processor.
Compare this ageing specification to a 2011 PC like the Scan 3XS Vengeance. It rocks the latest Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge CPU, Nvidia GTX 580 graphics card, 1TB of onboard storage and 8GB of DDR3.
Cevat Yerli, the boss at Crytek, believes that the PC is effectively a generation ahead of the Xbox 360 and PS3. "As long as the current console generation exists and as long as we keep pushing the PC as well, the more difficult it will be to really get the benefit of both,"

Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-720-rumours-what-you-need-to-know-937167#ixzz1IC7HOVfl

and i might add to this that with every console generation this problem will grow as the speed of witch technology evolves is constantly getting faster , but they cant make a new console every 2nd year, there for this will be a HUGE problem in 5-6 years and from there on, unless we have new types of consoles (witch will not happen for cost reasons and lack of corporate creativity)

Looks like its not just the PC thats been pushed aside, but the PS3 aswell, basicly this game was made for the Xbox, revolved arounbd the xbox, and now theyre doing what they can to try and make PC users happy by giving them support on the forum and patching as soon as, and just ignoring the PS3 users. this is an Xbox game..... Micro$oft anyone?

here your answer :

The Xbox 360 version is the most popular version with 57% of sales in the first week. The PS3 succeeded selling 29% of sales and the PC “the home platform” for Crysis and Crytek sold only 14% of the total sales.

More than anything, these numbers prove the dominance of game consoles in the gaming market and that its hard to launch big games for the PC alone.

http://www.consoledigest.com/crysis-2-doing-well-on-the-xbox-360-3201/5787

is hard to argue when it comes to money

i hope this is a lesson to many of you and wont buy the new consoles when they come out, lets stop supporting stupidity as much as we can

They made sure that would happen, the way they market'd the game, that was their plan look. Its all microsft just doing what they can to keep the 360 going on strong using popular games like they did with cod.

Why do you think they gave the PS3 a rubbish demo [ it was terrible, looked worse than a PS2 game] only a week before the game came out and took it down after 2 days because it was crap, and never said anything about it or defended it even though everyone was cancelling their pre-orders. While the Xbox 360 got the best demo out the lot and the erliest and it got patched... and was up for the longest... Don't you think Crytek would wan't to say to the PS3 user's, 'Dont worry this isn't the actual game' or something like that? make some sort of statement? they said absalutly nothing even with every1 saying im getting the 360 version instead or im cancelling. They obviously wanted the Xbox version to sell as much as possible. I think the word that springs to mind is Micro$oft and a nice little deal going down. It worked though, look at the sales...

they bring out an xbox demo that works well 3 weeks before the game comes out to test it proply, BEFORE THE PC which is where they came from. and then fix anything rong with the xbox demo make sure its working properly [why? its a demo...and better than the PC's anyway.....] and then put an unbeleivibly bad demo on the PS3 a week before the game releases..... only to take it down 2 days after..... The whole point [or what should be the whole point] in a demo is to bring it out to test the game then fix issues [1 week?], and make it look good so people buy it.....

does any of that make sense to you? comone they had plenty of time to plan the launch of this game and is one of the most important things when selling a game or should be anyway. read that and tell me thats not stupid. they are facts right there.

you confusing demo with beta

the point of a demo by definition is DEMONSTRATION, in other words try before buy

in a perfect world a demo would be a small part of the FINISHED product, and by the way for long time many many years ago that how it was

this days our expectations are so low, that we take things for granted that had been an outrage just 10 years ago

i wonder how low we can get ?!

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as for MS , i dont think they have anything to do with this

what i think is more likely is that 2 years ago EA buyed crytek , and now EA dictates what will happen

and probably what they said "stop fkng around and start making some money, we not here to be nice and have fun but MONEY... so like it or not console it is, because thats where the money is"

crysis1 sold 14000 copies the 1st week, thats nothing.. the high end PC community is that small, cant make money on that

"the point of a demo by definition is DEMONSTRATION, in other words try before buy"

EXACTLY! they made the best possible demonstration they could on the Xbox, they even updated it during the demo. while the PC one wasn't as good as it should have been, and the PS3 was terrible, there was no reason for that.... it was like a completely different game, like 2 years old or something, you no they could have brought put a propper demo with all their plans to try to sell it. but their plan was obviously otherwise. i copied that part which is why its worded like that, but it still makes sense. i mean com one you must undestand

(I am from India.Sorry for any grammar mistakes)

Crytek did a really good job.We must appreciate them.90% of the pc gamers owns only 100$ grphics cards.Crysis 1 is poorly optimised and require $2k-$3k monster rigs to maximise its potential.Only a minority of pc gamers have the money to afford dual gtx 580 and core i7 980x.Crytek really works very hard to optimize this game to run even on a low end dual core+9500gt like configuration.They really care about pc gamers(even though they are busy to torrent it).If they can fix the SP and MP bugs Crysis2 will be an awesome game.It was not a good idea to develop a pc exclusive game unless you are developing a multiplayer only game like WOW.The only reason behind the success online games is that you cannot simply play online with a pirated copy.

the actual solution would be to make the PC high end version 1st and dumb it down for consoles and low end PC's to cover all markets

but they wont even do this to save money , and that is really upsetting to me

@anshad we are way beyond $100 video card, my video card is $50 (9800GTS) and it runs crysis2 on absolute maximum settings

its not really about making a game PC only but taking WAY more effort to make every platform great
MAKING EVERY ONE HAPPY = QUALITY

plus you can pirate console games as well, i have plenty of friends who own a extensive pirated console collection

i my self had an old xbox with 100's of games, none of witch i paid for

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lets face it crysis2 is an average game, is really not any more special them most other games out there, and that from a developing studio that we got the top of the top games prior , like farcry, crysis1... and now we get this average near mediocre game

DICE are pretty much leading the charge with PC gaming based on how they've been acting. They've also been educating other developers on how to effectively use dx11 in their future games.

Pc is a huge market after all. It's sales figures for most games bar the occasional game like the cod series (which PC gaming shunned) are normally about equal to the 360 with profit margins significantly higher than the 360 versions. Crysis 2, for example, although with horrible press on the PC side, is still sitting at around actual sales shares of about 29% in the UK when factoring in digital (which, as indicated by various surveys and polls by many companies and individuals, one of which i even ran here on gamesas) which accounts for 60%+ of PC sales, and a profit share of at least 43% as a result of digital (i.e. the most money from any platform). In the US the profit margins will be even higher since crysis 2 released at the equivalent price point of ￡35 in the US, whereas in the UK it was ￡30.

The fact is, crytek have never released a multi platform game, and in having to address all the new challenges that came with consoles they had to kind of put PC on a backburner because they KNEW they could make the PC game and it work to a good enough standard. It's unfortunate that they miscalculated the time required for a launch day dx11 version, but that's how it is sometimes.

FIRST OFF, my intentions are not to START A PLATFORM war. I personally do not like how the consoles play BUT I DON'T HATE CONSOLES, pls pls pls lets be clear about that.

What is said in the quote below just shows what i am trying to say to Crytek. Each platform handles (plays) a game differently.

As a pc user/gamer i like the way it plays and the fact that I can have very good graphics, almost over the top compared to other platforms. That is how i see it.

I have played Fifa2002, on the PC, Xbox and PS2 and they all felt (played) differently. Even looked different.

SO in a nutshell, it's lazy of Crytek to develop one set of code for one set of machine(platform) and expect other machine users(platforms) to agree and be happy with, knowing it does not fully suit their platform.

I hope I give out my message clearly.

ps. Just for interest i have been in IT support for 17yrs now, so i do know by now what I like in a gaming platform.


Looks like its not just the PC thats been pushed aside, but the PS3 aswell, basicly this game was made for the Xbox, revolved arounbd the xbox, and now theyre doing what they can to try and make PC users happy by giving them support on the forum and patching as soon as, and just ignoring the PS3 users. this is an Xbox game..... Micro$oft anyone?

USLESS IDIOTS TREATING PEOPLE LIKE MUGS. who are you activision?