Why are there 16 accords?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:25 pm

I mean if there's 16 Daedric Princes INCLUDING Sheogorath then the number doesn't make sense. Unless of course one accord is ment for Jyggalag. What do you think?
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Daniel Lozano
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:31 pm

We'll never know I'm afraid because we only have those three books.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:32 am

I mean if there's 16 Daedric Princes INCLUDING Sheogorath then the number doesn't make sense. Unless of course one accord is ment for Jyggalag. What do you think?


I suggest you write the rest of the books.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:05 pm

I mean if there's 16 Daedric Princes INCLUDING Sheogorath then the number doesn't make sense.


Maddening, isn't it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:17 pm

When I think about it... I'm actually having a bit of difficulty visualizing what kind of mischief Sheogorath would enact when dealing some of the other princes.

Especially when it comes to Nocturnal. On the other hand, what do you suppose he does to Peryite? Subtly mixing up the taskmaster's orders and sequences?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:41 pm

I suggest you write the rest of the books.


I'm actually planning on making a mod in which you enact some new ones and as you do it, suddenly copies of the books describing the tale will appear (sort of dragon breakish). Whether I'll manage to do anything good is questionable tho :)

However I'm not sure you understood the question right. I'm not asking "where's the rest", I'm asking "why 16, if there are 16 princes INCLUDING Sheogorath".
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:21 pm

That's a good question.
I first saw those three and hoped there would have been more, but then I thought the same thing as you.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:46 pm

Numerology never makes sense if you look at it for more than half a second. That's the only time the Sermons really annoy me, when there are random integers mixed in the significant numbers.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:49 pm

Numerology never makes sense if you look at it for more than half a second. That's the only time the Sermons really annoy me, when there are random integers mixed in the significant numbers.


Are you trying to suggest that it was just a dev oversight in a smart way?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:26 pm

Are you trying to suggest that it was just a dev oversight in a smart way?

Eh? No, that was only slightly related to the OP.

But really, whenever I have to look for significance in the numbers, it never ends well.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:43 am

Eh? No, that was only slightly related to the OP.

But really, whenever I have to look for significance in the numbers, it never ends well.


Well in all honesty the chance of it being an oversight is big. It wouldn't be the first one in the SI books. Take for example the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Myths_of_Sheogorath.

In "Sheogorath and King Lyandir" part, Sheogorath appears to the king in his dreams citing:
"Sheogorath heard their pleas and decided to visit King Lyandir. He appeared to the king in his dreams as a field of flowers, each with arms instead of petals and the face of the Madgod in the center."

However in the same book, in the chapter "The Contest of Wills" it is stated citing:
"He hadn't slept for fear of Sheogorath invading his dreams. (Which was foolish, as dreams are the domain of Vaermina, may She grant us Restful Sleep.)"

A better contradiction couldn't be found. So perhaps the author of XVI accords just didn't count things right, and mechanically assigned the magical known number of Princes to the title.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:18 pm

Then there's always the disappointing excuse that as this is the land of Madness, nothing actually needs to make sense.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:24 am

From Azura to Vaernima, not counting Sheogorath, that's 15. Who's the 16? The mortal who was fooled into thinking he was a Daedra Prince, I'd say. Or maybe Sheogorath fooled himself into thinking a mortal was a Daedra Prince? Who knows.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:54 am

and isn't Jyggalag the Daedric prince of Order, thereby making 16?

Jyggalag = Sheogorath, who both have/had the status of a Daedric Prince, so I don't see even a period of time when there would only be 15 Daedric princes.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:30 am

However in the same book, in the chapter "The Contest of Wills" it is stated citing:
"He hadn't slept for fear of Sheogorath invading his dreams. (Which was foolish, as dreams are the domain of Vaermina, may She grant us Restful Sleep.)"

Yeah, but from the http://www.imperial-library.info/book_daedra/ from the Imperial Library it says:
While Sheogorath always accepts any summoning when the area is under a thunderstorm, although he has his own summoning date. A tricky Prince; often he oversteps other Daedric Prince, when the particular Prince is summoned during a thunderstorm.

I can see how that would apply to him overstepping the others during any occasion.

Not that it helps the OP get his question answered. :embarrass:


Oh, you ARE the OP. Whoops...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:17 am

Oh, you ARE the OP. Whoops...


Of is he the OP's mortal champion, fated to take his place to thwart the oppressive progress of sanity?
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