This topic is about ranged weapons/crossbows. I wouldn't say not including them is "selling out at an alarming rate" for the "newbs". Oblivion didn't have them either. Been like this for almost a decade.

Crossbows don't seem necessary as some people have said on this thread - but I would like to see spears back in, as well as throwing knives or some variant (no shurikens, I don't think old asian weapons fit well in Tamriel in my opinion).

Im talking direction in general. At least that one sentence, that you wanted to respond to was.

We've complained about that as well...don't think it's working. :ermm:

And similary, diamonds only have value because insipid people like shiny things. Coal, on the other hand, can heat a home, power a train or ship, or light up a city.

Diamonds do have SOME industrial uses...but their value is inflated beyong their use. Thus is it with many of the features we've been given as opposed to what's been left out. Cooking, marriage, etc...all valid content to add, but not before much of what was ignored.

At least you are arguing that they should spend more time and money to get more things in. I also wish that they spent more time and more money.

Spears should definitely be in. They would fit right into the Norse setting perfectly.
Crossbows...well, if they were in, I wouldn't protest. They are not, I won't complain.
Not really a big deal for me. Throwing knives, save them for the next Ninja Gaiden
game.

yes, but Im just arguing for more, for everybody, not just myself.




He was being sarcastic... I hope.

Anyone who's RPGing an assassin or a thief should want a crossbow. Some of you would say crossbows would be useless and such, but people want weapons to fit the style of character they're wanting to play.

After all the posts I've seen, I sincerely doubt that.

@Requimortis - think Jimmy404 was being sarcastic regarding crossbows, spears and javelins being terrible weapons to use against a dragon...

Can't agree with that at all. I couldn't be happier with Skyrim and the overall direction of the series and that's coming from someone whose played all the games and Dagger is my favorite.

While throwing knives may seem off, throwing axes are very fitting to a Nord province.

Yes, we all know. Until Beth comes out tomorrow and says they reintroduced spell creation, attributes and brought back more skills, to which you would defend.

I probably should've used a better example than Duke Nukem. Hopefully you see my point though. Crossbows might not have taken much time, but it was evidently more time than Bethesda had if they want to keep their deadline, and it's not really something important enough to delay a whole game for.

I think crossbows would make a great 1 shot kill tool for assassins. Especially if there was something that added poison to bolts.

A buddy and I were talking about working together to get some version of a hand crossbow and throwing knives in once the mod kit is released. Hopefully someone else will be working on poison for individual bolts or arrows.

hmmm...good point! Yes it would look good and fit right in!

They don't have crossbows because it takes like 30 seconds to reload, and that's if you have experience doing it. :shakehead:

There's well over a month until the game is released. Plenty of time to add in crossbows and their variants (silver, daedric, etc.).

What? If you can't piece a dragon's scale with a SPEAR you couldn't pierce it with an ARROW. If you could, it would have to be a particularly fine crossbow. :flamethrower:

You have no idea how game production scheduling works, do you?
this late in production, they're not going to add anything at all. it's just testing and refining of what's already there.
and they have more important things to do than add crossbows

Requimortis, on 19 September 2011 - 12:55 AM, said:

Melee weapons would be ineffective against a dragon due to their scales as well as their size. A magic weapon would hurt but you would have to get close and honestly, you would end up a pitiful red stain before you had the chance to even raise your blade. Ergo, the only practical weapons to use would be magic and bows/crossbows.


It seems that a two handed axe works particularly well against a frost dragon.

Just watch the game-play vids.

... Exactly. It's why they haven't been in a TES game since 2003; they're useless compared to a bow when it comes to reload speed, and most likely accuracy and damage as well.

I think you underestimate the amount of development time it takes to add a new weapon class to the game.

Graphics of the various different crossbows they might have.(Iron, Wood, Dwemer etc.)
Animations for the crossbow.
First person animations for the arms using the crossbow.
Third person animations for the body for the crossbow.
Adding an addition ammo type, called bolts, not just for one type of ammo, but maybe a few different type. (Iron, Silver, Steel, etc.)
Distributing the ammo types throughout the world in a balanced way.
Distributing the Crossbows themselves in a balanced way.
They would have to make decisions about how powerful they are. How fast they load. How far they go. If they have an special properties. Etc.
Perhaps making a few unique crossbows like they did with the other type of weapons. (they could leave it out)

Just integrating a whole new weapon type into the world during a phase of development that should only include bug squashing is unrealistic. I think in general that you underestimate how long these things take to do.

I'm shocked he even said that. One month to add in crossbows and then balance the combat and everything else for it? Plus all the extra bug testing? They are feature locked now. No more content. It's straight playtesting and bug fixing. The only way it can/will be in now is through DLC.